Help SN from DMC & Bartovation - low purity?

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

I wasn't even aware of that.
Do we agree that the DMC site wouldn't really appeal to a vegan?

most certainly not, as a vegan myself LOL

 

[heavyeyes]

Aquarium tests are still not a great way to test purity from what I have read. Only a lab will be able to tell you it is indeed +95%

Really?

 

[maynoname]

most certainly not, as a vegan myself LOL

Well with all these stories these last few days, glad to know that I at least have the right DMC lol

 

[Manfrotto99]

There was someone from Australia on here who ordered of the legit DMC website and has successfully ctb

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

There was someone from Australia on here who ordered of the legit DMC website and has successfully ctb

if you find the link to the post, could you drop it here?

 

[Manfrotto99]

I wonder if you should try contacting DMC with the results and see what they say or do ?

if you find the link to the post, could you drop it here?

if you find the link to the post, could you drop it here?

It just says deleted user. They got there SN from DMC around May this year.

 

[complex]

This thread is freaking me out a bit. I spoke to a bunch of people during this process, on here, at labs, all kinds. And people definitely 100% tried to take advantage or lie or scam & it disgusted me - who does that knowing the position we're all in??? I had a bunch of interactions with L, like A LOT & I could be wrong, but I believe that he is legit & DMC is legit. That said, I guess there can be faulty batches but I assume they test that. I don't know. Are all the failed tests from the same brand of aquarium tests? Are they all strip? Maybe there's another common denominator. Maybe if people still have easy access to their DMC because they've just tested,, maybe they can try a drop test or whatever it is? Or just another brand? I need my SN to be legit, I don't have a backup plan, I can't keep moving my date forward - my bus has to come. I was an anxious mess before testing & now seem to be circling back to that, at a time I can't afford to. I genuinely believe L & DMC to be legit - I've made bad life choices & trusted the wrong people in the past, made mistakes like everyone else. But if L & DMC are scamming people, I won't need the SN, because the last tiny little piece of my heart left unbroken, would be broken. I have very much sung their praises here publicly & privately. If anyone has success with testing, I would love to be told - I need this to to be real - I need the SN to CTB, I need to know I wasn't scammed but also, a big one, I hate the idea I've misled people to DMC if it's been a waste of their time, money & hope. I started to reread this & can see the anxiety is or was winning - but I believed in my gut they are legit so I'm going to try my hardest to stick to that until I have any other evidence. I can't retest mine until the bus is actually on its way. I will be watching for updates. Best of luck to everyone.

Please don't fret it upsets me u have this stress on top. As although i have not located my SN or figured what the hell DMC links up to it saddens me to hear u stress over ur CTB method u have held to ur heart as ur piece of peace xx just test and hope for the best in people. Hugsssss

 

[Andrews]

Thanks everyone for commenting.

As some of you said, home testing isn't reliable and lab testing is the way to know for sure. I won't attempt that, to not raise suspicion. Where I live, selling SN to individuals for home use isn't legal.

Also I said it was sealed, but how can I know that for sure? I remember when opening the sachet, it made that squeesh sound, while it sucked air inside. I guess it's a sign that no air was inside?

@Plato'sCaveDweller it was stored inside, 4 weeks at 27-33 Celsius and 2 weeks at around 25.

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Thanks everyone for commenting.

As some of you said, home testing isn't reliable and lab testing is the way to know for sure. I won't attempt that, to not raise suspicion. Where I live, selling SN to individuals for home use isn't legal.

Also I said it was sealed, but how can I know that for sure? I remember when opening the sachet, it made that squeesh sound, while it sucked air inside. I guess it's a sign that no air was inside?

@Plato'sCaveDweller it was stored inside, 4 weeks at 27-33 Celsius and 2 weeks at around 25.

thank you for making the thread! you can never be too careful, and hopefully this spurs some people into testing so we can be extra sure the SN is good.

 

[Roadrunner]

I wasn't even aware of that.
Do we agree that the DMC site wouldn't really appeal to a vegan?

Yes, we can agree with that. A vegan would very much not enjoy visiting that web page, lol

 

[maynoname]

Yes, we can agree with that. A vegan would very much not enjoy visiting that web page, lol

Yes so I ordered on the right DMC

 

[Andrews]

Eventually I've retested with strips from a different brand called Easy Life.
This time the results were different, high nitrite concentration.

So my conclusion is that purity test results differ, from brand to brand.

Maybe one way to kinda know purity would be to buy many different brands and trust the results that predominate.

Attached image for 5 ppm and 10 ppm.

 

[nibbleone]

And you got zero nitrates on those tests!
All of my tests show some nitrates. Maybe it's the SN that I'm testing.

Who's your SN supplier? DMC?

Much appreciated.

 

[Andrews]

And you got zero nitrates on those tests!
All of my tests show some nitrates. Maybe it's the SN that I'm testing.

Who's your SN supplier? DMC?

Much appreciated.

Yes it's DMC and indeed nitrates also differ.

 

[maynoname]

Eventually I've retested with strips from a different brand called Easy Life.
This time the results were ok.

So my conclusion is that purity test results differ, from brand to brand.

Maybe one way to kinda know purity would be to buy many different brands and trust the results that predominate.

Attached image for 5 ppm and 10 ppm.
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Thank you for sharing these new results with us. And for reassuring me at the same time.

 

[Andrews]

Thank you for sharing these new results with us. And for reassuring me at the same time.

I've only reassured you that test strips give inaccurate results :)

 

[Plato'sCaveDweller]

Eventually I've retested with strips from a different brand called Easy Life.
This time the results were ok.

So my conclusion is that purity test results differ, from brand to brand.

Maybe one way to kinda know purity would be to buy many different brands and trust the results that predominate.

Attached image for 5 ppm and 10 ppm.
View attachment 150364 View attachment 150365

this is very reassuring. you gave us all a bit of a spook!

 

[maynoname]

I've only reassured you that test strips give inaccurate results :)

Yes I know. I understand myself lol.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Yes it's DMC and indeed nitrates also differ.

Thanks for retesting. It's definitely a start. I didn't look at nitrate on my strip - I'd been worried I'd look at nitrate & not nitrite & get it wrong so I made a real point of making sure I ONLY looked at nitrite. I'm still going to test mine before I CTB & maybe even get a second brand of aquarium tests too. Best of luck.

 

[heavyeyes]

I've only reassured you that test strips give inaccurate results :)

So there isn't a reliable way to test other than actual lab testing?

 

[Andrews]

So there isn't a reliable way to test other than actual lab testing?

no idea. I guess so.

 

[schrei_nach_liebe]

I'll just say as someone who has had to use test strips and similar methods on a huge variety of different chemicals/fuels/additives as well as on biological samples - and then have those tests backed up by lab tests - I can absolutely positively say that ad hoc tests just are not at all the kind of accuracy you would think. Different variables just in your environment, among other things, can wildly throw results off. On top of that the result is also subjective to some extent, given your perception of colors, lighting conditions, etc. In general, whatever is advertised about the accuracy of the test is going to be under controlled conditions (humidity, temperature, pressure/altitude, light, age).

I just got my order from DMC today - all went smoothly, not a single hiccup. I haven't opened the outer package due to prying eyes yet, but it feels like what it should feel like.

 

[E.T]

I'll just say as someone who has had to use test strips and similar methods on a huge variety of different chemicals/fuels/additives as well as on biological samples - and then have those tests backed up by lab tests - I can absolutely positively say that ad hoc tests just are not at all the kind of accuracy you would think. Different variables just in your environment, among other things, can wildly throw results off. On top of that the result is also subjective to some extent, given your perception of colors, lighting conditions, etc. In general, whatever is advertised about the accuracy of the test is going to be under controlled conditions (humidity, temperature, pressure/altitude, light, age).

I just got my order from DMC today - all went smoothly, not a single hiccup. I haven't opened the outer package due to prying eyes yet, but it feels like what it should feel like.

This is useful information, thank you. So essentially it sounds like there is no way of knowing the purity for sure unless you wanna send a sample off to a lab and risk raising suspicion.

 

[schrei_nach_liebe]

This is useful information, thank you. So essentially it sounds like there is no way of knowing the purity for sure unless you wanna send a sample off to a lab and risk raising suspicion.

Probably, but I haven't researched too much about the specifics of testing it. I'm way too far past the point of caring, this is probably my last shot at a peaceful CTB. I'm just going to take it rather than dither around trying to test it.

 

[E.T]

The YT.com phone number is bogus and the address too.

How do you know this? Many have successfully contacted DMC.

 

[nibbleone]

How do you know this? Many have successfully contacted DMC.

Oops. I wrote on the wrong thread. Apologies. We were discussing another source YT (not DMC).

 

[schrei_nach_liebe]

I just opened the outer package, pretty immediately I can tell why people might say it's clumped. It's probably due to the compression (due to vacuum) it's under rather than exposure to humidity. A vacuum sealing process would assist in removing any moisture depending on how long the vacuum is applied, as dropping the pressure to a near vacuum drops the boiling point of water below room temperature. So, if it's a good vacuum, depending on your altitude and weather conditions the SN would be under up to 1 bar/14.7 psi of pressure when it is sealed in the package under vacuum. That alone will make it turn into a brick, which is going to be clumpy when you break it apart. If everyone's packaging is a vacuum pack, you probably shouldn't jump to any conclusion that it's from exposure to moisture. I can't think of a better way than this of packaging it, it's pretty impressive.

 

[WildBird]

It seems like your test showed the SN from DMC is good? If the strips were identical to the 10 end of the spectrum? Ordered from DMC and really hope the SN is good.

Hey
As @maynoname said, I tested mine from DMC.
I followed the Bible / Vizzy instructions for distilled water & did the 1 litre method. I used API strips because that was available locally. I dipped one strip & got the darkest colour match that looked identical to what it should (the 10 end of the spectrum on API packaging & the pics on SaSu) & dipped another in plain water to compare. I did 2 blood tests at the same time, I know not accurate but just for peace of mind, & they turned the blood into chocolate sludge immediately. I haven't actually used the SN yet…
I really really really hope it's the strips not the SN, for all of us.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

It seems like your test showed the SN from DMC is good? If the strips were identical to the 10 end of the spectrum? Ordered from DMC and really hope the SN is good.

Mine was definitely at the bright 10 end. I put another strip in plain water just for comparison. And did 2 blood tests - 1 putting blood in SN, 1 putting SN in blood - I KNOW it's not accurate but watching the instant & dramatic change was both fascinating & reassuring. Best of luck.

 

[nibbleone]

Mine was definitely at the bright 10 end. I put another strip in plain water just for comparison. And did 2 blood tests - 1 putting blood in SN, 1 putting SN in blood - I KNOW it's not accurate but watching the instant & dramatic change was both fascinating & reassuring. Best of luck.

Thank you.