SN doubt

[DarkRose]

Hey,

These past few days I've been starting to reconsider SN as my method (as many of us did) due to the failed SN posts.
For now, I still have faith in the method but I'm asking your opinions on SN.
Is it still a good method?

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I'm still trusting in it, for what that's worth. Positive and negative anecdotes are nothing new.

 

[littlelady774]

I've read IntelligentLeg's post and some others failures and have some doubts. I'm leaning toward the SCBA nitrogen method now

 

[Ellipsis]

Same for me. I've seen many goodbye threads where the attempt seemed successful. I really concentrated on this method, it required me a whole organization. And today, full of doubts appear. I too am lost, especially since I have no other methods, I have no place to hang myself. I'm clearly desperate I don't know what to do. And on the other hand I tell myself that I took everything for the method, and that I have to test one day.

 

[littlelady774]

I've also noticed there is this cult-like mentality going around in regards to SN. They will defend it and attack other members who've tried it and said it wasn't peaceful.

 

[DarkRose]

I've also noticed there is this cult-like mentality going around in regards to SN. They will defend it and attack other members who've tried it and said it wasn't peaceful.

I have noticed that too. People get almost offended when SN is getting attacked.

 

[lilin]

Could you share links to those threads? I'd like to read them

 

[deathissosad]

Success to failure rate is good enough for me for SN id just follow a regime for sure and not sip at 1 cup for 20 minutes. 1 big gulp with all the needed meds as well

 

[locked*n*loaded]

The pro-lifers are sitting proud of their accomplishment.

 

[littlelady774]

Another user wrote this:

Some cases are painful, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

In this document where failed attempts collected most cases are relatively painless and some of them really discomforting (tachycardia, headache, one case of blindness that recovered and one case couldn't move or talk). Recommend you to read this.

Here is the worst cases from forum members:

Post in thread 'I've tried SN & it's not for me. Been researching. First post btw!'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...researching-first-post-btw.96193/post-1681369

"Excruciating headache, vomiting, felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest - like my pulse from my neck felt like it was gonna burst. Not peaceful at all. Not how they say. I also couldn't walk & needed help."

Thread 'Snorting sn'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/snorting-sn.86951/

"I tried s n it was the most pain I've ever been in
In my life so much vomiting and pain if I snort it instead will it go straight into my blood stream I can't go through that pain again when it didn't even work"

Thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/

"Moonicide: 25g in luke warm water drank - after 10 minutes breathing heavily, gasping for air, sounds like choking.

Chat room: 25g, burning throat, breathing slowly, 20 minutes after ingesting vomited violent, sounds indicated it became a very tough experience, horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing,

Kukubananas : cannot breathe

timetogo:, throat warm, heaving but not vomiting, do not feel nauseous, hands falling asleep, pain, vomiting swallow back, cannot breathe."

Post in thread 'It seems that SN is not peaceful'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-seems-that-sn-is-not-peaceful.73804/post-1383070

"So I went to bed thinking I would fall asleep and ctb but instead I went through 4 hours of hell like suffocating. I didn't throw up at all a bit nauseous was all. I took 1000 mg naproxen before but at the end I got the worst headache of my life."

Post in thread 'Sources and scam megathread'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sources-and-scam-megathread.94434/post-1728298

"Our friend passed away last week with SN. He suffered terribly and had a terrible death struggle even though he followed the guide."

It is obvious that following a regime (pills) does not guarantee a peaceful death, but somehow this is a common misconception.

We must take all experiences into account. If your doing SN, expect some pain. If you don't want any pain/agony, do another method like N or the exit bag.

 

[TimetoGo!]

I just wanna know where everyone is getting all this SN from?

 

[MidnightDream]

I'm pretty much of the mindset that you don't know until you try. Every single method carries a risk of failure - Jumping, train, gunshot, even gas methods if you don't get the set up right. The difference with SN is that the consequences of that failure are pretty good - Yes, you might be in a lot of pain and discomfort for a short term, but in terms of long-term consequences there don't seem to be too many, unlike the other methods mentioned above. SN has clearly worked for many, and not just people on this site, but there are a lot of variables...
Person: Height, weight, metabolism, digestive system
Regime: Fasting, meds taken (or not taken) alongside, time taken in consuming the mixture, getting caught
The SN itself: Source, purity, dosage
You could follow the regime perfectly and it just might not work for you for any one of those above reasons - but you simply won't know unless you try.

I also have the (perhaps unpopular) opinion that death isn't supposed to be comfortable or painless. Most deaths aren't, even those that are natural. In the case of ctb, it goes against every single mental and physiological instinct we're programmed to have, and our bodies going to fight back in some capacity. I honestly don't understand why SN has been hailed as this amazing, peaceful method - Of course you're still going to experience some level of discomfort, you've ingested a lethal poison and your body is literally shutting down.

 

[FuneralCry]

It sounds like a good enough method to me, as after all so many have died from using it, there are news articles about it. At least to me SN doesn't sound as awful as many of the other methods, there is a reason why so many wish to obtain it. I envy those who have SN by their side now.

 

[crowbait]

I feel numb to all the horror stories. I just don't feel spooked weirdly enough. I only read one, admittedly. To be honest the only thing that would scare me would be serious damage/long-term effects. I've overdosed enough that everytime I smell charcoal I nearly fucking hurl because of that nasty shit they make you drink. The embarrassment of the weeks-long hospital stay afterwards.... my constant anxiety about what slow and painful damage my organs have been dealt... I don't mean to minimize these experiences, but vomiting and pain and a racing heart wouldn't scare me when I know it'll end and I'll be relatively fine. It's temporary so it isn't real- that's my feeling I get about piercings and tattoos.

 

[Asiam]

I've also noticed there is this cult-like mentality going around in regards to SN. They will defend it and attack other members who've tried it and said it wasn't peaceful.

Yes!!! This!! All kinds of mind games so they don't have to accept that it may not be peaceful.

 

[hunterfla]

I also have the (perhaps unpopular) opinion that death isn't supposed to be comfortable or painless. Most deaths aren't, even those that are natural. In the case of ctb, it goes against every single mental and physiological instinct we're programmed to have, and our bodies going to fight back in some capacity. I honestly don't understand why SN has been hailed as this amazing, peaceful method - Of course you're still going to experience some level of discomfort, you've ingested a lethal poison and your body is literally shutting down.

Perfectly stated. I know everyone (including me) wants a method where they can just put on some nice music, lower their eyelids, drift off to dream and never wake up...but that's not reality. Also, it's interesting that so many of us are literally going through living hell day in and day out, but aren't able to accept some rapid heartbeat and headaches to escape it. Finally, relatively few natural deaths are peaceful - even those who can manage to navigate this existence for nearly 100 years experience immense pain and discomfort at the end of life, whether from cancer, dementia, strokes, etc. I can't imagine having to be spoon fed and unable wipe my nether-regions. xoxo

 

[Jadzia]

I was hoping to use nitrogen but that's not possible now. I don't think SN is always a peaceful method but it certainly is for some.

I'm already suffering constantly with unbearable physical and neurological symptoms from very severe ME and fully expect those symptoms to get worse if I take SN. I think if done right though, the increased suffering will only be about 30 minutes at the most before I pass out. Hopefully it will only be 10 minutes because it can be that quick before becoming unconscious.

 

[wantittoendsoon]

It seems that the SN isn't the issue but rather the other preparations required that go wrong. If you take SN and don't freak out or throw up it appears to work. I'm leaning towards nitrogen myself.

 

[Jadzia]

It seems that the SN isn't the issue but rather the other preparations required that go wrong. If you take SN and don't freak out or throw up it appears to work. I'm leaning towards nitrogen myself.

Even if you throw up if you have extra glasses you will succeed. I've not read anyone that's failed after 2 glasses

 

[DarkRose]

Even if you throw up if you have extra glasses you will succeed. I've not read anyone that's failed after 2 glasses

I don't think its easy to drink a second glass from what I've heard.

 

[Jadzia]

I don't think its easy to drink a second glass from what I've heard.

I've not read anywhere that people have failed to drink a 2nd glass. Only one that couldn't reach it. If there are examples, please post the link.

I am sure it is hard to drink it though after throwing up.

 

[DarkRose]

I've not read anywhere that people have failed to drink a 2nd glass. Only one that couldn't reach it. If there are examples, please post the link.

I am sure it is hard to drink it though after throwing up.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-alive-after-ingesting-20g-of-sn.105150/ This posts describes a situation where I don't think you're able to drink a second glass. Secondly if you already threw up on the first one then your going to throw up again.

 

[Jadzia]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-alive-after-ingesting-20g-of-sn.105150/ This posts describes a situation where I don't think you're able to drink a second glass. Secondly if you already threw up on the first one then your going to throw up

I don't believe the OP who wrote that thread and the one she write 24 hours earlier. The story is full of inconsistencies that she's refused to explain.

Even if you throw up the second, as long as your body has ingested enough it will work. There are examples of people throwing up with just one glass and it worked

The antiemetics are important because the type they are make things leave your tummy quickly even if they don't stop you throwing up.

It's a risk but I've read more success stories than failures and those that fail haven't followed the protocol, or have called for help, or have been found or haven't been truthful

 

[DarkRose]

I don't believe the OP who wrote that thread and the one she write 24 hours earlier. The story is full of inconsistencies that she's refused to explain.

Even if you throw up the second, as long as your body has ingested enough it will work. There are examples of people throwing up with just one glass and it worked

The antiemetics are important because the type they are make things leave your tummy quickly even if they don't stop you throwing up.

It's a risk but I've read more success stories than failures and those that fail haven't followed the protocol, or have called for help, or have been found or haven't been truthful

I am questioning that thread too to be honest. And Its true, you're right.
Even if you throw up you would've absorbed enough SN by then.
Thank you!

 

[Source Energy]

Perfectly stated. I know everyone (including me) wants a method where they can just put on some nice music, lower their eyelids, drift off to dream and never wake up...but that's not reality. Also, it's interesting that so many of us are literally going through living hell day in and day out, but aren't able to accept some rapid heartbeat and headaches to escape it. Finally, relatively few natural deaths are peaceful - even those who can manage to navigate this existence for nearly 100 years experience immense pain and discomfort at the end of life, whether from cancer, dementia, strokes, etc. I can't imagine having to be spoon fed and unable wipe my nether-regions. xoxo

omg this...I can't reason with myself why am I afraid, when the emotional pain is literally the flames of hell every day. Though a few years ago I tried to O.d with Tylenol and alcohol and almost died, but I hated the rapid heartbeats and numb arm until the tips of the finger. I hate feeling hyper, I am a quiet, lethargic person...ghhh the f-king cowardice:(

 

[lionetta12]

Hey,

These past few days I've been starting to reconsider SN as my method (as many of us did) due to the failed SN posts.
For now, I still have faith in the method but I'm asking your opinions on SN.
Is it still a good method?

My personal opinion changed due to the fails too. I've moved onto more lethal methods now as my chosen ones.

 

[Source Energy]

can anyone tell me what IC and CCS site names are? I googled, but multiple sites pop out, and not with these initials, I don't know where to look. I heard CCS ships from US, it might fit me better so no custom check, but what is the name of the site?