Discussion SN Becoming Difficult to Obtain in U.S. - Alternate Methods?

[russlinjimmies]

I know SN seems to be the preferred method for so many, but is becoming difficult to obtain, including , where I am in the U.S. It's been one of the methods I have heavily considered but now looks to be out of reach. For anyone wanting to use SN but not able to get it what are your alternate methods?

Here are mine:

Primary

• Partial
• Night-night
• CO

Secondary

• Jumping
• Firearm
• Exposure to the elements (hypothermia, starvation, poising, venomous bite, injury and not being discovered etc.) while hiking
• Overdose, if I can get access to the right meds

 

[charlotte greentea]

SN should still be easily obtained in the US, even on Amazon, unless the situation has changed dramatically.
SN is a method I've been considering as my primary as soon as I learned of it. Previously jumping from a selection of curated spots was my plan. If I weren't able to get SN, I would probably jump somewhere. Most of the other methods seem too bothersome to me, personally.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

Most of the other methods seem too bothersome to me, personally.

I likewise dig a simple suicide lol.

 

[russlinjimmies]

What I've found on there seems like it won't be the correct type (if that's even a thing) or of suspect origins. I will need to search again.

I hadn't considered jumping much until today and it's now one of my top methods.

 

[catch99]

To me SN seems like a way over glorified method on this forum. It can take hours whereas jumping or a firearm would be within minutes. SN can take up to 4 or 5 hours I've heard; who the hell wants that?

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

SN can take up to 4 or 5 hours I've heard; who the hell wants that?

Even if it did you'd be unconscious though.

 

[alown]

I know SN seems to be the preferred method for so many, but is becoming difficult to obtain, including , where I am in the U.S. It's been one of the methods I have heavily considered but now looks to be out of reach. For anyone wanting to use SN but not able to get it what are your alternate methods?

Here are mine:

Primary

• Partial
• Night-night
• CO

Secondary

• Jumping
• Firearm
• Exposure to the elements (hypothermia, starvation, poising, venomous bite, injury and not being discovered etc.) while hiking
• Overdose, if I can get access to the right meds

The N is very easy to obtain in your country, several friends on ss have recently ordered from D and live in your country and they have all received their package

 

[russlinjimmies]

I'm surprised there isn't an issue with customs, but definitely good to know.

 

[alown]

I'm surprised there isn't an issue with customs, but definitely good to know.

there is none, you will understand for yourself if you order the stealth mode is really well thought out

 

[lmplsss]

I know what you mean since the lw one got taken down. But I still bought the ones that seem sketchy. I got the hm one from the rainforest site and la one from a lab site. The de one seems like to be the most unreliable.

 

[Symbiote]

There's always the exit bag, a bit complicated to set up, but easy to get materials. You can get small helium tanks or rent one from Dollar Tree in the US. Walmart also sells helium tanks under the name Balloon Time, they're portable and easy to carry.

 

[russlinjimmies]

There's always the exit bag, a bit complicated to set up, but easy to get materials. You can get small helium tanks or rent one from Dollar Tree in the US. Walmart also sells helium tanks under the name Balloon Time, they're portable and easy to carry.

Aren't the helium tanks formulated to contain enough oxygen to no longer be fatal?

 

[Symbiote]

Aren't the helium tanks formulated to contain enough oxygen to no longer be fatal?

Good question. That's something that the peeps over in the inert gases thread can probably answer better.

I did find a resource link about it: https://assisted-dying.org/blog/2015/07/11/where-can-a-person-obtain-pure-helium/

 

[SweetDreams500]

To me SN seems like a way over glorified method on this forum. It can take hours whereas jumping or a firearm would be within minutes. SN can take up to 4 or 5 hours I've heard; who the hell wants that?

Who cares if you're unconscious

 

[catch99]

Even if it did you'd be unconscious though.

Who says you can't suffer when you're unconscious? Maybe you simply have no recollection of it after; there are arguments both ways on this.

Lots of people on here would rather SN and slowly rot their brain over 4 hours than just shoot themselves. All the people recommending SN as a painless and easy death are leading people to a pretty awful death IMO. Hanging/jumping/firearm is the way to go.

Who cares if you're unconscious

You don't know how much of it you're unconscious for. Also, there are conflicting theories on whether you can still suffer if you're unconscious. It's very possible that the part of the brain that handles memory is inactive however you are still suffering.

 

[LastFlowers]

Who says you can't suffer when you're unconscious? Maybe you simply have no recollection of it after; there are arguments both ways on this.

Lots of people on here would rather SN and slowly rot their brain over 4 hours than just shoot themselves. All the people recommending SN as a painless and easy death are leading people to a pretty awful death IMO. Hanging/jumping/firearm is the way to go.

You don't know how much of it you're unconscious for. Also, there are conflicting theories on whether you can still suffer if you're unconscious. It's very possible that the part of the brain that handles memory is inactive however you are still suffering.

This is what I worry about, but I think a lot of people, like myself, may not have access to a firearm and are resorting to SN as it at least seems pretty reliable when not found, and those who are found seem relatively unscathed compared to other methods.
Unless you have information that I don't, which I would appreciate if you share, as my method, as of now, will be SN.
Hanging freaks me the fuck out, I tried it and my eyeballs felt squeezed from my head, I just can't manage it.
I'm also pretty sure it's just as likely to cause brain damage if done wrong or found. SN is harder to screw up imo.

I've thought of jumping but that also seems pretty painful if done improperly and I do not have access to a high enough building/bridge, nor the ability to drive to one, nor the funds and wherewithal to be driven by someone else (a service).
I don't look forward to the period after ingesting the SN, I am a panicky person though I know I will not call for help or risk being put in the hospital, I still worry about the unpleasantness of it all.

I really hope I do not feel the suffocation as oxygen is depleted from my system, I do wish I had an instantaneous method but I simply do not.
What I need above all else, is a high likelihood of success. I can handle some discomfort but I do hope it's not too much.

When you say 4 hours, did you get that number from somewhere?
Every time someone brings up the pitfalls of SN, none of them follow up with me to back up their claims (at least, not to my knowledge).

 

[SweetDreams500]

Who says you can't suffer when you're unconscious? Maybe you simply have no recollection of it after; there are arguments both ways on this.

Lots of people on here would rather SN and slowly rot their brain over 4 hours than just shoot themselves. All the people recommending SN as a painless and easy death are leading people to a pretty awful death IMO. Hanging/jumping/firearm is the way to go.

You don't know how much of it you're unconscious for. Also, there are conflicting theories on whether you can still suffer if you're unconscious. It's very possible that the part of the brain that handles memory is inactive however you are still suffering.

No. SN deprives the brain of oxygen. It cannot undergo normal functioning without oxygen. Hell, hypoxia is sometimes described as being relaxing and calm.

 

[catch99]

This is what I worry about, but I think a lot of people, like myself, may not have access to a firearm and are resorting to SN as it at least seems pretty reliable when not found, and those who are found seem relatively unscathed compared to other methods.
Unless you have information that I don't, which I would appreciate if you share, as my method, as of now, will be SN.
Hanging freaks me the fuck out, I tried it and my eyeballs felt squeezed from my head, I just can't manage it.
I'm also pretty sure it's just as likely to cause brain damage if done wrong or found. SN is harder to screw up imo.

I've thought of jumping but that also seems pretty painful if done improperly and I do not have access to a high enough building/bridge, nor the ability to drive to one, nor the funds and wherewithal to be driven by someone else (a service).
I don't look forward to the period after ingesting the SN, I am a panicky person though I know I will not call for help or risk being put in the hospital, I still worry about the unpleasantness of it all.

I really hope I do not feel the suffocation as oxygen is depleted from my system, I do wish I had an instantaneous method but I simply do not.
What I need above all else, is a high likelihood of success. I can handle some discomfort but I do hope it's not too much.

When you say 4 hours, did you get that number from somewhere?
Every time someone brings up the pitfalls of SN, none of them follow up with me to back up their claims (at least, not to my knowledge).

My argument was simply for the people that mention SN being a better method than a firearm/hanging/jumping. If it's your only method and you're 100% on going through with it then I guess it's alright. I just personally wouldn't do it.

In terms of the 4 hour figure I've heard that from several people on this forum who seemed to be informed. There isn't a lot of information on death/suicide caused by SN online. 4 hours is a long fucking time, in my opinion there is no fucking way that it's going to be free of suffering. That is simply my opinion but no one can tell you for sure.

 

[SweetDreams500]

My argument was simply for the people that mention SN being a better method than a firearm/hanging/jumping. If it's your only method and you're 100% on going through with it then I guess it's alright. I just personally wouldn't do it.

In terms of the 4 hour figure I've heard that from several people on this forum who seemed to be informed. There isn't a lot of information on death/suicide caused by SN online. 4 hours is a long fucking time, in my opinion there is no fucking way that it's going to be free of suffering. That is simply my opinion but no one can tell you for sure.

Some one posted a video of a dude who shot himself in the head with a shotgun, He was alive, and seem to be in extreme pain. Half of his head was missing.

 

[notoriousrbg]

4 hours is also a fairly long window for someone to come by.

 

[catch99]

Some one posted a video of a dude who shot himself in the head with a shotgun, He was alive, and seem to be in extreme pain. Half of his head was missing.

If you can find a link to the video, I would like to see it.

I've seen a few videos like that but all of them were dead instantly. He likely failed to hit the brain with his shot.

 

[LastFlowers]

Some one posted a video of a dude who shot himself in the head with a shotgun, He was alive, and seem to be in extreme pain. Half of his head was missing.

Yea, it seems when people do use guns and fail, they fail hard.

If you can find a link to the video, I would like to see it.

I've seen a few videos like that but all of them were dead instantly. He likely failed to hit the brain with his shot.

I believe several people have ended up having to get face transplants from attempting suicide with a shotgun or firearm, I remember there being a thread awhile ago where I spoke with people at length about it. A quick google search should find you a few cases. I recall one girl specifically who did it after a breakup or something.

 

[catch99]

Yea, it seems when people do use guns and fail, they fail hard.

I believe several people have ended up having to get face transplants from attempting suicide with a shotgun or firearm, I remember there being a thread awhile ago where I spoke with people at length about it. A quick google search should find you a few cases. I recall one girl specifically who did it after a breakup or something.

Yeah I've seen this video of this dude that shot his entire face off with a shotgun. Like no eyes, mouth, or nose, and he likely blew his ears out as well. Still, he was walking around and trying to talk but he had no mouth. Like holy fucking shit.

I have seen some really fucked up videos but that might be #1. I'll send you the video if you like but it's really fucking gruesome.

Those people likely aim under the chin though so they miss the brain but shoot their whole face off. If you hit the brain, you'd be instantly rendered unconscious and it would only be a matter of minutes before bleeding out.

 

[LastFlowers]

Yeah I've seen this video of this dude that shot his entire face off with a shotgun. Like no eyes, mouth, or nose, and he likely blew his ears out as well. Still, he was walking around and trying to talk but he had no mouth. Like holy fucking shit.

I have seen some really fucked up videos but that might be #1. I'll send you the video if you like but it's really fucking gruesome.

Those people likely aim under the chin though so they miss the brain but shoot their whole face off. If you hit the brain, you'd be instantly rendered unconscious and it would only be a matter of minutes before bleeding out.

Are there keywords I can search to find it?
I'm not sure if I really need or want to see it, but there was a time where I was looking up gruesome stuff, I'm not even sure why, other than the fact that it made me feel less alone by surrounding myself with the same horror I was feeling inside. Less contrasted with the world.

I think another issue is that people get nervous with that much power in their grip, and any wrong movement can fuck you up, even if your initial placement is on point.

 

[SweetDreams500]

I wish I could be vaporized, so that there would be no way to feel pain

 

[LastFlowers]

I wish I could be vaporized, so that there would be no way to feel pain

Me too, I want to disappear entirely.

 

[demuic]

Yea, it seems when people do use guns and fail, they fail hard.

I believe several people have ended up having to get face transplants from attempting suicide with a shotgun or firearm, I remember there being a thread awhile ago where I spoke with people at length about it. A quick google search should find you a few cases. I recall one girl specifically who did it after a breakup or something.

It's why I would never use guns or anything else. SN is the least likely to cause catastrophic consequences if failed. That's all there is to it. I don't care about some hypothetical unproven pain I may or may not experience when I'm unconscious, I'll still die, but I'm not gonna walk around with my face blown off or turned into a vegetable.

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

To me SN seems like a way over glorified method on this forum. It can take hours whereas jumping or a firearm would be within minutes. SN can take up to 4 or 5 hours I've heard; who the hell wants that?

The SN method definitely has it perks.
You realize that guns are only specific to USA citizens right ?
About jumping, you would need access to high enough buildings and jumping needs a bold mindset.
It's easier to drink a chemical substance, still that need ball.

 

[Jkennedy]

I know SN seems to be the preferred method for so many, but is becoming difficult to obtain, including , where I am in the U.S. It's been one of the methods I have heavily considered but now looks to be out of reach. For anyone wanting to use SN but not able to get it what are your alternate methods?

Here are mine:

Primary

• Partial
• Night-night
• CO

Secondary

• Jumping
• Firearm
• Exposure to the elements (hypothermia, starvation, poising, venomous bite, injury and not being discovered etc.) while hiking
• Overdose, if I can get access to the right meds

I don't get Americans, The 2nd amendment there, just blow your brain out it's over In a second,
SN your lying there still, there's a load of painkillers u need to take.
Hanging can be minutes if not done right, but if seconds still like 20seconds of hell.
Helium u be too tempted to pull away.
Jumping the same
Drowning the same
Suicide by using a Gun is king in my opinion

 

[sm20]

There's always the exit bag, a bit complicated to set up, but easy to get materials. You can get small helium tanks or rent one from Dollar Tree in the US. Walmart also sells helium tanks under the name Balloon Time, they're portable and easy to carry.

I've heard some people saying suppliers are starting to add oxygen to the helium to prevent suicides, no idea if this is true but it seems like a thing to be worried about.

I don't get Americans, The 2nd amendment there, just blow your brain out it's over In a second,
SN your lying there still, there's a load of painkillers u need to take.
Hanging can be minutes if not done right, but if seconds still like 20seconds of hell.
Helium u be too tempted to pull away.
Jumping the same
Drowning the same
Suicide by using a Gun is king in my opinion

I'm guessing lots of people here have been hospitalized and maybe lost their rights to buy a gun. If you were hospitalized as a minor like I was twice, it becomes much more difficult to know if your hospitalization is listed as voluntary or not. I even requested my discharge report and it said my code status for whether it was voluntary or not was "not on file."

I know SN seems to be the preferred method for so many, but is becoming difficult to obtain, including , where I am in the U.S. It's been one of the methods I have heavily considered but now looks to be out of reach. For anyone wanting to use SN but not able to get it what are your alternate methods?

Here are mine:

Primary

• Partial
• Night-night
• CO

Secondary

• Jumping
• Firearm
• Exposure to the elements (hypothermia, starvation, poising, venomous bite, injury and not being discovered etc.) while hiking
• Overdose, if I can get access to the right meds

There was a news report about someone from this site who successfully ctb'd and they showed the bottle he used, which was the hm bottle. I think it's safe to use.