Help SN and alone time

[oozycoffin]

Sorry for my poor english ;)

I saw a case of consciousness waking up after 12 hours in this site. So should I be alone for at least 13 hours?

How much time do you recommend to be alone after taking sn ?

 

[Guy_Smiley]

Sorry for my poor english ;)

I saw a case of consciousness waking up after 12 hours in this site. So should I be alone for at least 13 hours?

How much time do you recommend to be alone after taking sn ?

It usually takes about 40 minutes until death occurs, so that much time shouldn't be needed. If done correctly, and the SN is not vomited up shortly after drinking it, it's extremely unlikely someone could survive anywhere close to 12 hours.

 

[strangelife]

If 40 minutes is enough, then I don't understand why many reports write about survivors later, I think that the time from detection to the arrival of an ambulance is usually more than 40 minutes. As I understand it, more time is needed, or am I wrong?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

It usually takes about 40 minutes until death occurs

Dying is a process even if you might look dead SI and very basic functions of a body might still be working to regain life. I would say to be really sure you need 6h+ This is my own estimation. Actually if I attempted seriously with any method I would not want to be discovered for 24h minimum, to be SURE I don't survive bc of a rescue attempt.

A human body (and especially brain) can survive on a relatively low level of oxygen. I assume this bc in first aid I once learned about the mouth to mouth (nose) resuscitation and chest compressions. That's not a lot of oxygen and blood flow if a person has neither breath nor has heart beat after an accident but it's enough to save that person.

I'm pretty sure if you go with cyanide after 40 mins you're dead 100%. SN is more peaceful but also much slower than people expect it to be.

 

[Goku Black]

I'm pretty sure if you go with cyanide after 40 mins you're dead 100%. SN is more peaceful but also much slower than people expect it to be.

Yes and no, yes because there's a lot of factors as to why it may not be as fast for others but no because we already see how fast it works with people who take 2g and again, why would medical intervention at the earliest possible time be advised after taking sn if it wasn't an immediate life or death situation, people have been DOA when they get to ER or even die while they're being transported to hospital.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Yes and no, yes because there's a lot of factors as to why it may not be as fast for others but no because we already see how fast it works with people who take 2g and again, why would medical intervention at the earliest possible time be advised after taking sn if it wasn't an immediate life or death situation, people have been DOA when they get to ER or even die while they're being transported to hospital.

We can say many individual factors (that are unknown) apply how fast it actually is for an individual. I personally would not calculate with less than a few hours to be sure.

 

[Guy_Smiley]

If 40 minutes is enough, then I don't understand why many reports write about survivors later, I think that the time from detection to the arrival of an ambulance is usually more than 40 minutes. As I understand it, more time is needed, or am I wrong?

Dying is a process even if you might look dead SI and very basic functions of a body might still be working to regain life. I would say to be really sure you need 6h+ This is my own estimation. Actually if I attempted seriously with any method I would not want to be discovered for 24h minimum, to be SURE I don't survive bc of a rescue attempt.

A human body (and especially brain) can survive on a relatively low level of oxygen. I assume this bc in first aid I once learned about the mouth to mouth (nose) resuscitation and chest compressions. That's not a lot of oxygen and blood flow if a person has neither breath nor has heart beat after an accident but it's enough to save that person.

I'm pretty sure if you go with cyanide after 40 mins you're dead 100%. SN is more peaceful but also much slower than people expect it to be.

I was just going by what the Peaceful Pill Handbook (PPH) says, or at least what it said as of the 2022 edition (which is the latest edition I have been able to find online). In it, they list what they call "a typical timeline of an observed death using 25gm of sodium nitrite", and it says death at 40 minutes. I don't know how they determined death (e.g. by visual observation, or by checking for pulse, etc), nor do I know how many deaths they observed, so I don't know how accurate their claim is. But Exit International (publishers of the PPH) are a legitimate, well-regarded organization, and so I don't think they would claim that without being confident in their data.

As far as reports of people surviving longer than that, note that PPH calls it a "typical" timeline. There are always going to be outlying exceptions to every norm. I'm guessing that in a lot of these reported cases it was due to factors such as the SN not being very pure, or not enough was ingested, or most of it was vomited up before it could get into the blood stream.

But again, there are always going to be outliers, so it's a good idea to leave more time just to be sure. That being said, at least as far as PPH is to be trusted, not having 12 hours shouldn't stop one from choosing SN as a method.

 

[Goku Black]

I'm guessing that in a lot of these reported cases it was due to factors such as the SN not being very pure, or not enough was ingested, or most of it was vomited up before it could get into the blood stream.

Those reasons are typically outlined as why such outliers take longer, its easily identifiable when looking at some of the reasons an attempt didn't work. Death from SN shoudlnt take more than anything close to an hour if all necessary steps are followed and if you are fortunate enough to have things going your way.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

and if you are fortunate enough to have things going your way.

That's exactly the point with everything in life and death "fortune".

 

[Goku Black]

That's exactly the point with everything in life and death "fortune".

yeah because i recall some users doing everything right but they were either found which is something they didn't plan for of course and yet you have teens who have ctb with SN overnight and found dead the next day.