Small dose of SN pros and cons

[freelifexit]

1. What are the pros and cons of a small dose of SN to ctb, like 2-10g?
I heard that with a small dose you do not lose consciousness for a long time and experience the negative effects of SN.
2. Why such a large dose of SN (20-25g) is recommended when the lethal dose starts from 2 grams?
3. Please write links to posts where people have taken small doses of sn.

 

[Dot]

Thread 'I took the sn' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-took-the-sn.76104/

Cn also fnd in srch br.

 

[layne2001]

Thread 'Testing SN - How to get to hospital (fast)' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn-how-to-get-to-hospital-fast.74903/
This dude only took 2g and would've died. Maybe it has to do with the meds he was already on.
I also don't know why 20-25g is the standard dose because it does seems too high

 

[freelifexit]

Still don't understand why such a large dose of SN (20-25g) is recommended when the lethal dose starts from 2 grams?

 

[freelifexit]

Anyone?

 

[Someone123]

Anyone?

Theoretical lethal doses are often inaccurate- what is lethal for one person is not lethal for another oftentimes. I think they decided on a blanace between lethality and vomiting. There are many posts of people surviving several times what a lethal dose of a substance is- people vary a lot in ho much it takes to kill them. That's my best guess anyway.

 

[orange]

Thread 'Testing SN - How to get to hospital (fast)' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/testing-sn-how-to-get-to-hospital-fast.74903/
This dude only took 2g and would've died. Maybe it has to do with the meds he was already on.
I also don't know why 20-25g is the standard dose because it does seems too high

Why do you think it's too high? the goal is to die, I mean a higher dose makes the water taste worse, but the death will be faster

 

[Wayfaerer]

You don't want to take too little SN because you'll just wake up hours later possibly in a psych ward feeling awful from the poisoning. I hadn't even attempted suicide yet and even I ended up in one recently. I don't even remember what it it was like a dream or more aptly a nightmare.

 

[Dot]

Thread 'SN / Water Amount Lookup Table [ v2 ]' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-v2.32241/

Mght fnd ths tble hlpfl.

 

[freelifexit]

Still don't understand disadvantages of 10g of SN, instead of 25g. Time to lose consciousness maybe.

 

[Dot]

Thnk a lt of trial & error

 

[freelifexit]

Thnk a lt of trial & error

Don't understand metaphor

 

[Dot]

Don't understand metaphor

Mkng it up as g alng

 

[freelifexit]

Mkng it up as g alng

What means "g alng"?

 

[bed]

What means "g alng"?

go along

 

[Meditation guide]

Each person varies greatly in how their body reacts to SN. Most find that the suggested amount does the job even if they vomit. Less might not work for some resistant individuals. Or it might not be fast.

By saying "trial and error" I think dot was referring to not having an exact knowledge of what amount each person should take but there have been enough records of people using the suggested amount successfully to see that it works.

 

[Auto Immunity After]

You have been on this site for a hot minute so maybe do your own searches and learn as you go

 

[1up]

What means "g alng"?

Dot is saying that you will have to do some trial and error. In other words, you will have to try various things (go along and test your own theories) till you find something that works.

English Logica

 

[Vasy93]

The lethal dose of SN is 4-6 g, if you vomit from the potentially lethal dose, you will probably not lose consciousness quickly, but you will experience a series of very unpleasant symptoms such as dizziness, general weakness, rapid heartbeat "tachycardia", dysrhythmia, fainting episodes, skin cyanosis ... then depending on how high the methemoglobinemia is, then unconsciousness occurs, cardiorespiratory arrest, or cardiovascular collapse. PPH recommends 25 g of SN and 35 g for overweight people. 30 mg meto & 800 mg cimetidine 40 minutes before SN Then 1gm of immediate release propanolol mixed in the nitro solution which is 25 or 35 gm, thus, would guarantee death shortly after ingestion.

 

[layne2001]

Why do you think it's too high? the goal is to die, I mean a higher dose makes the water taste worse, but the death will be faster

And the chances of throwing up on 25g are also higher compared to 10g, and on both quantities you only need 2g absorption in your bloodstream for ur oxygen levels to start dropping quickly. What actually helps losing consciousness are betablockers, benzodiazepines and lack of SI, not the amount of SN. But yeah I wouldn't take only 2g either I'm planning at least 15-18g to be safe.

 

[bed]

Still don't understand disadvantages of 10g of SN, instead of 25g. Time to lose consciousness maybe.

correct, higher chance of losing consciousness faster as well as TTD.

 

[Vasy93]

a sedative such as triazolam or zolpidem would be good before SN

 

[freelifexit]

correct, higher chance of losing consciousness faster as well as TTD.

what means TTD?

 

[bed]

what means TTD?

time till death

 

[justsayin]

Still don't understand disadvantages of 10g of SN, instead of 25g. Time to lose consciousness maybe.

It seems that lack of understanding did not prevent you from giving advice about things you don't understand:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...to-have-to-leave-very-soon.79005/post-1414500

 

[freelifexit]

It seems that lack of understanding did not prevent you from giving advice about things you don't understand:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...to-have-to-leave-very-soon.79005/post-1414500

I made an assumption based on the information I have. In this thread I am trying to collect even more information. As you can see, no one knows 100%, only assumptions.

 

[justsayin]

I made an assumption based on the information I have. In this thread I am trying to collect even more information. As you can see, no one knows 100%, only assumptions.

You can make all the assumptions you want, as long as you test them on yourself. You can not experiment on others. You can't say that "no one knows 100%, only assumptions", and dismiss work of others. Many members spent their last moments trying to contribute to the common knowlege and they deserve some respect.

 

[freelifexit]

You can make all the assumptions you want, as long as you test them on yourself. You can not experiment on others. You can't say that "no one knows 100%, only assumptions", and dismiss work of others. Many members spent their last moments trying to contribute to the common knowlege and they deserve some respect.

Still, no one knows 100% the exact dose, because lethal dose starts from 2g. My assumption is based on posts and articles where people took less than 20g and died. One of the article about dental nurse who died from 1g. Another post about German guy who almost died in hospital after taking 2g of SN. There was also an article where human died after 15g. If you search SS you will find more.

 

[Dot]

@91Days ctb w/ 10g

 

[justsayin]

Still, no one knows 100% the exact dose, because lethal dose starts from 2g. My assumption is based on posts and articles where people took less than 20g and died. One of the article about dental nurse who died from 1g. Another post about German guy who almost died in hospital after taking 2g of SN. There was also an article where human died after 15g. If you search SS you will find more.

No one knows anything 100% in this world, but that doesn't mean that you can just deny stuff you don't like, and suggest people to experiment on themselves (which is the thing that made me write here). I have read most of the threads written here in last two years, and followed passing of multiple members. I don't see the purpose of you pointing me to the stuff I alredy know. That being said, you are completely free to experiment on yourself and contribute to the knowledge.