kane

kane

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I have real trouble getting to sleep at a normal time without sleeping pills, which leave me drowsy the next day. Bedtime is when all my feelings of loneliness, regret and despair catch up with me. I suppose I spend most of the day trying to distract myself from them, but then suddenly all my energy is gone, and I can't run anymore. I don't have the focus to read, or do chores, or even watch tv shows or listen to music - my brain is completely drained. I desperately want to sleep. But instead I get trapped for hours in this negative emotional state. I hate it.
 
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Have you tried the headspace app? I pay for the monthly subscription because sadly a lot of the free app is locked. However, they do these cool sleepcasts which I find very useful for sleep. Basically they do a "winddown Excercise" and then basically storytell for 30/40 minutes. 8/10 times I've used it I've gone to sleep quickly.

Sounds very frustrating, not being able to sleep. Night-time definitely feels very suffocating when you can't sleep, I guess that's the best way to describe it.
 
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This music and also the video have often helped me. Best to listen with headphones.

 
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scarletohara

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u could try over the counter nytol, they do work and chill u out a bit so ur able to drop off naturally
 
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Jumper Geo

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Sorry, I was in a similar situation I had severe brain fog, I could barely get out of bed and walk to the living room to sit and watch TV I couldn't hold a conversation I would sit on SS until 5 am and then go to sleep.

I was lucky I came across some unused vitamins I bought my mum and popped one of them, the next day I could feel a difference so I started taking a multivitamin, vitamin d, cod liver oil, and turmeric.

Things improved but I needed to get my sleep routine back in sync I have managed to go to bed at 2 am and wake up at 9/10 am I'm happy with that but what helped was writing a list and leave it in full view so you see it every morning.

Wake up 09.00/10.00
Tea/Coffee and Breakfast 10.00/12.00
Shit/Shower/Shave + Brush Teeth 12.00/13.00
Go to Shops walk around for a few hours and if possible walk home 14.00/16.00
Home and Chillax
Eat, drink watch TV, surf the net, etc
Relax in your room, listen to music in the dark, 24.00

It won't happen overnight but hopefully, you will see an improvement and get your sleep routine and energy back, you will slip up and not sleep and feel tired try and stay awake splash your face with cold water, open windows, walk around or go for a walk.

Tip if you take vitamins make sure you take them early. I am happy with my 10.00 to 02.00 until I get a job and then I will get into a routine.

Hope it helps

Cheers

Geo
 
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Have you tried the headspace app? I pay for the monthly subscription because sadly a lot of the free app is locked. However, they do these cool sleepcasts which I find very useful for sleep. Basically they do a "winddown Excercise" and then basically storytell for 30/40 minutes. 8/10 times I've used it I've gone to sleep quickly.

Sounds very frustrating, not being able to sleep. Night-time definitely feels very suffocating when you can't sleep,
I have tried meditation apps, but not that one. Might give it a go, thanks.
This music and also the video have often helped me. Best to listen with headphones.


Thanks, I'll give it a try.
u could try over the counter nytol, they do work and chill u out a bit so ur able to drop off naturally
Think I tried nytol a while back and they didn't do much for me, but sounds like they give less of a hangover than the tablets I take at the moment, so may try again.
 
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Weary Soul

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I have always had problems sleeping - I am pretty sure it came from being abused as a child - I always had to keep one eye open, so to speak.

One would think that eventually, your body will kick in and you'd pass out from lack of sleep - but I suppose in my case, survival was more important than sleep.

One time, due to a number of factors, I went about 2 weeks without sleep.

I ended up in the ER, and they assumed it was psychiatric with psychotic features - even though I told them repeatedly that I had not slept or eaten for about 2 weeks, and all I needed was help to sleep and food. I also knew why I was struggling so badly - I had been taken off benzos suddenly (no taper) after having been prescribed them for 9 years at a pretty hefty dose (and my doctor should have known better, I even suggested it to him.)

So I was told that if I did not voluntarily commit myself I would be forced into a psych ward. And in my country, despite strict HIPPA laws, being involuntarily committed will follow you for life. Once there, within 24 hours, they threw drugs at me that I did not need, and I ended up having a grand mal (now more commonly known as a tonic-clonic) seizure and my 4th or so severe head injury - it was the final straw on my being able to function.

Sorry for the long post - but I so feel your pain when it comes to insomnia.

Off the top of my head, some things I have found on my own that help include the following: ~Black-out curtains so that the room is pitch dark;
~hypnosis (as mentioned above) - you can find this for free and listen to it on YouTube as you are trying to fall asleep;
~100 mg diphenhydramine (alone or in combination with 10 mg melatonin);
~10 mg melatonin (alone); and
~hydroxyzine.

Hydroxyzine is like diphenhydramine on steroids - it helps with both anxiety and sleep. I have also heard of prazosin use for PTSD. It is prescribed off-label to prevent nightmares from waking you up all night long, but I am not sure it helps one to fall asleep.

Trazadone helped for a couple of days, but then became like a placebo for me. I also tried natural remedies other than melatonin - these did not help so much. One other thing I have heard that helps (I have never tried it but it might just help) is a CPAP for sleep apnea.

As an aside, I will never go on benzos again - the withdrawals almost killed me, and despite so much documented evidence of the long-term danger with the use of these meds, doctors in my country (or area) have no clue how bad it really is - plus IME a doc can pull the rug out from under your feet on a whim (ie, stop prescribing a med on a whim, with no recourse for the patient when they actually damage someone cause docs are allowed to use medications off-label here without impunity - same in psych wards here, they can throw any med they like at you without impunity - the system is truly messed up).

These are just some ideas that helped me, but I have to preface this by I do not know what (if any) meds you are on now - so it is important to always check with your doc for potential interactions.

I am so sorry you all know of how horrible insomnia really is. I wonder if there is correlation between long-term, slow sleep deprivation and development of severe health/psychiatric problems (on edit - I mean this in the sense of more than is already known about the health effects of inadequate quality of sleep).

<3
 
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Audiobooks are good, loads of them on YouTube with no adverts :happy:
 
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