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HelpShallow water black out
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I've been thinking of using this suicide method, but I don't know: when I hold my breath, should I do it after breathing out or after taking a deep breath in? Should I take short breaths or long, deep ones as fast as I can? Does anyone have any tips for this method?
You'll probably have more chances if you just fall asleep in a bath tub, trying to faint with your head in water is fucking impossible (at least for me), at some poit you'll get the automatic reflex to breath, is just a useless "torture" with no results.
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It takes a very large amount of effort to remove the breathing reflex, sign up for free diving classes? There isn't much of a difference when you start running out of oxygen.
You can hyperventilate to leave you dizzy enough to make it easier to pass out but because it poisons you with oxygen, it'll just make holding your breath take much longer.
You can hyperventilate to leave you dizzy enough to make it easier to pass out but because it poisons you with oxygen, it'll just make holding your breath take much longer.
That's a misconception. Hyperventilation doesn't cause any somewhat significant increase of oxygen blood saturation, and it doesn't cause "poisoning" with oxygen either. The primary effect of hyperventilation is decreasing the level of carbon dioxide in the blood, leading to deficiency of CO2 which causes constriction of blood vessels, dizziness and tingling sensations. After hyperventilation, you can hold your breath longer, because more time is needed then to accumulate CO2 up to the point when hypercapnia (causing the sense of urge to breath) occurs.
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That's a misconception. Hyperventilation doesn't cause any somewhat significant increase of oxygen blood saturation, and it doesn't cause "poisoning" with oxygen either. The primary effect of hyperventilation is decreasing the level of carbon dioxide in the blood, leading to deficiency of CO2 which causes constriction of blood vessels, dizziness and tingling sensations. After hyperventilation, you can hold your breath longer, because more time is needed then to accumulate CO2 up to the point when hypercapnia (causing the sense of urge to breath) occurs.
not to sound stupid, but how do you know all this? like whats your background? every time i see a comment from you i learn something new, i appreciate it
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girl lmao how many method ideas have u gone through omg
not to sound stupid, but how do you know all this? like whats your background? every time i see a comment from you i learn something new, i appreciate it
You weren't here for some time, I am glad to see you here.
I went to shops (just regular supermarkets and even small markets) to browse various stuff. To my surprise, I found and immediately bought two items:
1. Butane gas (for filling up lighters) - about 300 ml
2. Car tire inflator. 300 ml, contains a hose and propane+butane mixture
I felt very happy, finally I am able to have these gases without irritant effects of deodorants.
According to ChatGpt, if I spray these gases, and also spray alcohol (ethyl 96%), it will be more effective. Alcohol depresses Central Nervous system, damages lungs and increases effects of propane and butane more stronger, if I understood ChatGpt correctly
girl lmao how many method ideas have u gone through omg
not to sound stupid, but how do you know all this? like whats your background? every time i see a comment from you i learn something new, i appreciate it
I was thinking of choking myself by swallowing napkins and obstructing my throat. @Intoxicated replied and suggested me use cans of one of those gases. And the rest is history: today, I have method, and everything bought, and I am ready to ctb
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According to ChatGpt, if I spray these gases, and also spray alcohol (ethyl 96%), it will be more effective. Alcohol depresses Central Nervous system, damages lungs and increases effects of propane and butane more stronger, if I understood ChatGpt correctly
Hyperventilation by taking deep breaths for a minute. Then inhaling deodorant spray several times. Then holding one's breath. It doesn't matter if it's after inhaling or after breathing out. Eventually, one will feel dizzy.
That's when one has to get into the water.
This method is one the best actually because it works most of the time. The problem is, drowning is scary, even when there's no pain.
I'm thinking of doing this in my bathub, but welp, that'd be traunatizing.
So back to the original topic, has anyone ever tried the SWB method ? Not even sure we can call it so as it usually happens in an accidental way.
I found out about the term a few weeks ago, and the fact that it can be considered as an accident and not an actual suicide attempt is non neglectable in my situation.
I went to swim a few times since then, hyperventilated for a few minutes as explained in the resource compilation sticky thread and hold my breath underwater but passing out is more difficult than it seems. I don't think it requires any particular training or physical condition as it can literally happen to anyone, hence my question.
It's not like I have a strict deadline to ctb, any date in March after the 3rd will do, but I might be considering other methods as the SWB is not an exact science according to my own experience.
I didn't try it on purpose, but I was close to achieving it accidentally once. Despite hyperventilation, I had to deal with a strong urge to breathe. I was able to endure that urge till it disappeared and clouding of consciousness appeared. When I noticed that I was close to losing consciousness, I came up for air immediately.
I went to swim a few times since then, hyperventilated for a few minutes as explained in the resource compilation sticky thread and hold my breath underwater but passing out is more difficult than it seems.
I didn't try it on purpose, but I was close to achieving it accidentally once. Despite hyperventilation, I had to deal with a strong urge to breathe. I was able to endure that urge till it disappeared and clouding of consciousness appeared. When I noticed that I was close to losing consciousness, I came up for air immediately.
Oh wow ok, so you did notice the loss of consciousness coming ? In many testimonials from survivors, and on swb videos, people just seem to snap like this without any warning.
In that case, you mean blacking out before being in the water ? Just wondering how the body would react with the contact of water, or the first sensation of drowning. I'm not super familiar with gas asphyxiation.
Yes, I had my eyes closed and for a few seconds I almost forgot where I was, but the sense of impending loss of consciousness was apparent. I also clearly notice when clouding of consciousness occurs and how further transition to unconsciousness goes during nitrous oxide asphyxiation.
Perhaps, the ability to recognize and/or remember hypoxia-induced symptoms varies between people. Recently I talked to a man who tried breathing helium, and it seems he was unable to recall how his transition to unconsciousness happened. Meanwhile, I can memorize my perceptions during clouding of consciousness before complete blackout from nitrous very well.
In my case, fainting from nitrous is never immediate. There is always some period of clouding of consciousness, during which I gradually lose my ability to do coordinated moves, and shortly before complete blackout I feel nearly paralyzed. So technically loss of consciousness is likely to occur after submerging, unless you fall into water from some big height.
Even if you regain partial consciousness somehow, hypoxia together with the anesthetic effect of N2O should significantly reduce any possible discomfort, and the next blackout should occur much sooner than in case of plain drowning without prior gas asphyxiation.
Very interesting, thanks a lot for the explanation. This remains my #1 way to go, but I started to doubt about the efficiency - without any kind of gas involved of course. I've watched a few documentaries about the Wim Hof method, which is apparently highly controversial as SWB is more likely to happen in those circumstances.
I guess I'm just gonna try a few more times the natural way, the only issue is that the spot I'm going to is watched by lifeguards during the day. So it has to happen early morning, or in the evening.
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