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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
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Is there anything you are doing right now that is helping things somewhat but you feel that it is all going to amount to nothing because of suicidal thoughts? I got a hair transplant (damn you genetics) in London a month ago but it feels all for nothing. Even if all my hair grew back, I would still have loads of all the other shit to deal with. Hair won't bring back lost loved ones, give me a better place to live, wipe away painful memories or cure my debilitating mental illness. It may give me a little bit of lost confidence but life will still be pretty much the same. Basically Shit. Ah fuck it, it was kind of just an experiment anyway. Saying that it is only prolonging the inevitable - Non existence.
 
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logan

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May 20, 2021
705
Of course, this does not change your worries, fears and other problems.

But it is certainly good for your self-confidence and if you didn't care about your appearance you wouldn't have had this treatment.
 
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Apr 24, 2021
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I understand. This year I'm trying to do recovery really hard, but nothing works it seems. I'm taking supplements, I'm taking care of myself, going to the gym, counting my calories, styling my hair, even started to apply some make up again, even went shopping for a nice dress etc. Trying to look presentable (these things used to make me feel good before). Doing some little things I enjoy. And I still feel miserable, I'm triggered by many things. I'm afraid I will never be the same.
 
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logan

logan

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May 20, 2021
705
I understand. This year I'm trying to do recovery really hard, but nothing works it seems. I'm taking supplements, I'm taking care of myself, going to the gym, counting my calories, styling my hair, even started to apply some make up again, even went shopping for a nice dress etc. Trying to look presentable (these things used to make me feel good before). Doing some little things I enjoy. And I still feel miserable, I'm triggered by many things. I'm afraid I will never be the same.

I feel the same way.
Nevertheless, I think that these first steps are important.
I think the worst thing is to do nothing.
And especially these psychological and emotional problems need a lot of time to heal or get better.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

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I've found that exhausting in the past, where I have tried to do things to improve my life and yet I just feel the same as before. The way I see it is sometimes there is just nothing you can do, you can try your best, but nothing really helps. I guess it is still good to try things just in case I guess. This life really is tiring.
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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I've found that exhausting in the past, where I have tried to do things to improve my life and yet I just feel the same as before. The way I see it is sometimes there is just nothing you can do, you can try your best, but nothing really helps. I guess it is still good to try things just in case I guess. This life really is tiring.
Indeed life is tiring. I slept most of the day (not long up). Facing each day is a constant battle of will. I really wish I ended it all when my key family members went. I died with them anyway and now I am just an empty walking shell of a man.
 
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alwaysSuffering

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May 29, 2021
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Recently, I felt like I was going to put one last good effort into improving my life. Instead of laying in bed in PJs all day, I was going to make some effort at having a life again. I bought a violin and signed up for lessons. I forced myself to get dressed and leave the house once a week to go to in-person lessons. I forced myself to practice for an hour everyday. I was about to sign up for French lessons next. I felt like I was making some improvement by forcing myself to get dressed and do things.

Then, my dog died suddenly and unexpectedly a month ago. He was all I had. It was just me and him. We lived alone together. He was the healthiest dog imaginable. He died right in front of me of what they think was a heart arrhythmia. I tried to save him. They said there would have been nothing anyone could have done, even at the vet's office.

That was the final straw for me. I feel like fate is trying intentionally to torture me in the worst ways imaginable. I have absolutely no desire to live. I didn't have much of one before and thought of death daily but at least I had him. Now I'm just alone and absolutely miserable. Like a whole new level of misery.

Last Thursday, 3 weeks after my dog died, my grandfather died. In the midst of all of this, I've gotten TONS of horrible comments from everyone in my social circle saying things like "it was bound to happen" (about my grandfather's death), "my grandparents are all dead, I got over it and so will you." "You need to get over this already (about my dog's death, 5 days after he passed), and so on and so forth. It's literally like a daily thing that someone says some horribly insensitive comment to me. Today, I got a call from someone at work to harass me for my mental illness, telling me that they didn't believe that I don't have the ability to leave my house and drive and do normal things. This person ranted at me for 5 min that I couldn't possibly have a mental illness preventing me from doing these things (despite it being documented for many years and I don't know this person and have never met her).

I can't deal with the cruelty that life constantly throws at me. I just want this nightmare of my existence to end already.
 
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LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
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Yes, after awhile so many issues accumulate and so much time is lost, that even fixing one major thing that might've been life-changing if accomplished sooner, becomes somewhat pointless in the face of the giant backlog of problems weighing a person down.
It's a compounding domino effect.

More than that, I've found that the exhaustive efforts to fix even one problem can also be for nothing, there is the scenario of resolving something and still being left to feel empty, and then there is the scenario of killing yourself to resolve something, just one thing, and then never even getting that much, just pure defeat, and for what? Obviously nothing.
Blood, sweat, and tears, all for not.

And often times, the more you suffer, the more you need to make up for that suffering, else you remain a bitter bog of misery.
It's a nearly impossible balancing act, the longer you go without perfecting that balance, the harder it is to gain control over it.
Of course, this does not change your worries, fears and other problems.

But it is certainly good for your self-confidence and if you didn't care about your appearance you wouldn't have had this treatment.
Yes, I still agree that if you have the ability or means to fix one of your problems, even if you're still left suicidal, you might as well do it, and save yourself some pain.
You are still worth a reduction in suffering, no matter if you continue on your way to the end, or not.
I've found that exhausting in the past, where I have tried to do things to improve my life and yet I just feel the same as before. The way I see it is sometimes there is just nothing you can do, you can try your best, but nothing really helps. I guess it is still good to try things just in case I guess. This life really is tiring.
I've also made attempts in the past to improve every possible thing that is actually in my control, but when all is said and done, if the things that are not in your control are still hanging over your head and getting in the way of living, all the work you did on everything else will never be enough, it will seem like a drop in the bucket compared to the ocean you are bound to drown in.

It's true, like you said, sometimes there is nothing that can be done, your hands are tied. Trying can be a good start, but for many it just leads to disappointment.
Life is tiresome indeed.
 
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forrrest

why did they take him away from me
Apr 10, 2021
10
I've spent the better part of a year working on myself. No meds. Pure meditation and mental effort. I haven't enjoyed a second of it but I notice small changes in myself. I'm less afraid to stand up for myself when nobody else will, I can articulate how I feel better, and I'm slowly becoming more able to open up with people. This is all great. However, nothing has been able to shut up the voices in my head mocking me and keeping me under. I don't understand how I've put up with it for so long. I'm hoping the more I work, the more improvements I'll find. Other than meditation, self-reflection, and communication, running helps me. But dragging my lazy ass out of bed can be a chore sometimes.
 
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Water-Lily

Water-Lily

Enlightened
Dec 26, 2020
1,203
I understand. This year I'm trying to do recovery really hard, but nothing works it seems. I'm taking supplements, I'm taking care of myself, going to the gym, counting my calories, styling my hair, even started to apply some make up again, even went shopping for a nice dress etc. Trying to look presentable (these things used to make me feel good before). Doing some little things I enjoy. And I still feel miserable, I'm triggered by many things. I'm afraid I will never be the same.
I feel this. I feel like I will never recover.
This is my fear. I know that if I go down the path of recovery I "could" get better. But the long term affects of trauma, from my absuers and other experiences, will live on in me. It might be easier to cope. It might not hurt as much. But the pain lives on. It might get easier, but it will still be painful. And at that point, you must ask yourself "is the path of recovery worth it if the pain will always be there, just not as intense"?
 
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BlankUser

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Apr 24, 2021
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I feel this. I feel like I will never recover.
This is my fear. I know that if I go down the path of recovery I "could" get better. But the long term affects of trauma, from my absuers and other experiences, will live on in me. It might be easier to cope. It might not hurt as much. But the pain lives on. It might get easier, but it will still be painful. And at that point, you must ask yourself "is the path of recovery worth it if the pain will always be there, just not as intense"?
I think there are things that you can't fully recover from. You just learn to live with them so you can function, but this kind of life will never be a fulfilled life.
 
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Water-Lily

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Dec 26, 2020
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I think there are things that you can't fully recover from. You just learn to live with them so you can function, but this kind of life will never be a fulfilled life.
Indeed. I was thinking on that. In how I perceive the word "recovery". Maybe recovery can be a person doing their best. Taking meds, therapy, treatment, all that stuff. And that at a certain point saying "I am feeling better. Things are a bit easier. But, I think I want to stop now. I don't want to keep trying or fighting. I feel I have done enough. I think, with confidence, I want to die in peace" I would hope that if/when I do commit suicide, I can approach it with that mentality. Knowing I tried my best, I did it the best I could. But I recognize that death from it all might be more peaceful and better than suffering in agony.
 
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BlankUser

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Apr 24, 2021
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Indeed. I was thinking on that. In how I perceive the word "recovery". Maybe recovery can be a person doing their best. Taking meds, therapy, treatment, all that stuff. And that at a certain point saying "I am feeling better. Things are a bit easier. But, I think I want to stop now. I don't want to keep trying or fighting. I feel I have done enough. I think, with confidence, I want to die in peace" I would hope that if/when I do commit suicide, I can approach it with that mentality. Knowing I tried my best, I did it the best I could. But I recognize that death from it all might be more peaceful and better than suffering in agony.
Trying all the options before ctb is a wise thing to do. It's just so unfair that we can't have normal lives like other people. Life is already very difficult and on top of that you have to do a recovery work which is not an easy task. And even if you manage to recover, you still have to work to stay recovered, because relapse is always a possibility.
 
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Water-Lily

Enlightened
Dec 26, 2020
1,203
Trying all the options before ctb is a wise thing to do. It's just so unfair that we can't have normal lives like other people. Life is already very difficult and on top of that you have to do a recovery work which is not an easy task. And even if you manage to recover, you still have to work to stay recovered, because relapse is always a possibility.
Ugh the relapse. I relapse over and over and it hurts. It's a pain that people without mental/chronic pain don't have to deal with. We will never have a normal life, at least in the way other people do. However there is a bit of solace knowing that we are not alone and there are many people like us. I would even go as far as saying we are more common in number than the normal people. I think, we should all do our best and give recovery a shot. And at a certain point, after some time, be given the autonomy of choice. To continue recovery, or to die. It's a right that we as people should all have. Coming from someone with life long trauma, I want to have that choice if i ever feel its right.
 

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