Scared of this life and of the next one

[jay_y]

I have read threads about a plane of existence on the other side, that is backed up by people having NDE, and all having similar experiences, like going out of their body, even seeing their body, and entering that specific realm that might exist with this one but its invisible...the majority had positive experiences, only those who were agressive/harbouring bad emotions or had a very painful exist(like a very anguished ctb) had experienced something extremely terrifying.

If the things in my life that I had no control over, made me be extremely anguished, even agressive, because of constant torture that I can not stop(extreme physical pain caused by muscles malfunctioning that I can not treat with anything, caused by abnormal and rare reaction to psych meds, you can read more on my profile), how can I at least reach a peaceful end?? My soul is crushed from the trauma of my own body torturing me and that kind of death(ctb) makes my heart hurt even more. But if I stay alive it will be the same result. I don't understand what I am supposed to do, what I should do to not prolong my suffering on the other side. I am scared of the other side. I am scared of everything, of this life and the other one. I just don't want to be hurt anymore.

I wished I wanted to die like many people here, but I do not. I am just not allowed to live and I don't know how to accept having to exit before I lose my mind completely. I wish I could find a way to exist in a way but I see no way. I am tired tired and traumatised. I just want to fade away while I'm sleeping, not hurting anyone and to not be aware of this happening. The only thing I wanted in this world was to have a natural death, but that is far away as I am only 20. I hate that I am not allowed to live.

 

[pauly369]

I had an out of body experience once during a meditation retreat. Yet I dont actually know if the astral body survives the death of the physical body for long.
Ive heard it said that the astral body is like steam rising from a kettle, and that it just fades away sometime after physical death.
Maybe its all an illusion created by the brain anyway, and consciousness is just a biochemical reaction caused by the brain.
I can understand your fear and it gets to me too sometimes. Im often freaked out by the fact that I even exist in the first place.
Life is so wierd and we dont have any answers to the questions that really matter.
But then again that could be because there are no answers in the first place, because we are just a biological accident and there is absolutely nothing when we die.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

I had an out of body experience once during a meditation retreat. Yet I dont actually know if the astral body survives the death of the physical body for long.
Ive heard it said that the astral body is like steam rising from a kettle, and that it just fades away sometime after physical death.
Maybe its all an illusion created by the brain anyway, and consciousness is just a biochemical reaction caused by the brain.
I can understand your fear and it gets to me too sometimes. Im often freaked out by the fact that I even exist in the first place.
Life is so wierd and we dont have any answers to the questions that really matter.
But then again that could be because there are no answers in the first place, because we are just a biological accident and there is absolutely nothing when we die.

I agree, we don't have any answers to the important questions, and I don't know why, it seems very cruel, all we can do is speculate and create stories. I don't believe in near-death experiences because those people weren't dead for hours to come back and say anything that happened, I believe what they were undergoing was just chemical hallucinations in the brain. I don't say that to take anyone's hope away, but I don't think we're going to know until we're dying and that will actually is going to happen. But I hope it's something good for those of us that need it.

 

[pauly369]

I agree, we don't have any answers to the important questions, and I don't know why, it seems very cruel, all we can do is speculate and create stories. I don't believe in near-death experiences because those people weren't dead for hours to come back and say anything that happened, I believe what they were undergoing was just chemical hallucinations in the brain. I don't say that to take anyone's hope away, but I don't think we're going to know until we're dying and that will actually is going to happen. But I hope it's something good for those of us that need it.

Yes, I agree with all you say.
I also wonder about people who are severely mentally handicapped : For instance if we really did have an eternal spirit inside our bodies, then surely we would all be super intelligent and all - knowing.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Yes, I agree with all you say.
I also wonder about people who are severely mentally handicapped : For instance if we really did have an eternal spirit inside our bodies, then surely we would all be super intelligent and all - knowing.

or people who get physical brain damage. they are no longer human in any recognizable sense in many cases. I think if death was just a gateway, to something more, and nothing to be afraid of, why does every lives being run from it? why do other animals beside humans who have know teachings that death is bad or scary, still fear it if it is nothing to fear? I wish I just believed it would be alright, or I wish I knew what actually happens. no one knows and it's not fair, I think it is cruel and abusive to torture any living being without giving them insight or true knowledge of what happens. I have died in this life in many ways, and it is hell, it is nothing good. so many people had their lives ripped form them from infants and teenagers to adults of all ages in war. what happened to them? it's all so fucked up.
the only thing I come back to now is wishing I had never been born. none of it was worth it and now on top of the hell it is I have to kill it off myself. I can't imagine a an existence worse than this but perhaps that's the path I am on, just suffering more and for eternity. I should have killed myself at 19. I wish I had. Good luck to everyone. May none know my suffering again.

 

[Darkover]

your just a machine made up of atoms and when you die these machines disintegrate meaning there is no more you but the universe has been shifting matter around for billions of year and will go on for trillions more years it's debated if this universe could ever bring you back alive in some form or if your truly just nothing forever either way there's no way you continue living your life after death that's pretty much how it looks. Once the brain stops functioning, the self—the "you"—disappears. What was once a thinking, feeling entity dissolves back into the universe as atoms and energy. The idea of coming back in some form is interesting, whether through some yet-unknown process of the universe reshuffling matter into a similar consciousness or just as a different life entirely. But there's no real evidence for that happening in any way that preserves "you" as you are now.

 

[pauly369]

As far as death is concerned : I think that animals are simply scared of physical pain, yet humans are more scared of the unknown.
Life is most definately cruel and unfair for many of us, and there is no logic behind it all.
Nothing makes any sense.
I was abused as a child and have suffered a lifetime of mental illness and I utterly despise my existence. Yet Im a very loving and kind person. So why is my so - called life so hellish ?
It seems to me that there is something very wrong with this world because the psycopaths of this world prosper yet the good people always seem to suffer.
I think that certain groups of occultists may have the answers that we are all looking for, yet prefer to keep us all in the dark.
We have been lied to about so many things as regards history and religion that uncovering the truth about our true origins and destiny is now almost impossible.
Im so sorry you are suffering so much, yet I get it.
Life is hell for some of us.

 

[jay_y]

I am scared either way. I am scared of suffering beyond this world because my body was tortured and in result my soul is crushed. A traumatic death would make things even worse if spirit still continues to exist. I am literally a child, I want my mother to hold me while I am going I can not go like this.

If there is nothing, or if our spirit fades away after some time until brain is completely dead I am still afraid. If I am not me anymore, I wanted that me to at least experience some things. Life didn't even let me fulfil some of my dreams. It didn't let me do anything, I am too young. I know children died in wars but this is too cruel, too awfull. I wanted at least to leave some parts of my soul here, or at least to be remembered in a good way by loved ones. They will all hate me. I know that they do not know my suffering, they are not in my body, but it hurts me too much.

 

[WhiskeySolstice]

If this life goes on after I end it, I'll be so fucking pissed (and I absolutely understand being terrified of such a notion. My anger is a symptom of my fear lol)

I have read threads about a plane of existence on the other side, that is backed up by people having NDE, and all having similar experiences, like going out of their body, even seeing their body, and entering that specific realm that might exist with this one but its invisible...the majority had positive experiences, only those who were agressive/harbouring bad emotions or had a very painful exist(like a very anguished ctb) had experienced something extremely terrifying.

 

[Dresired]

I am scared either way. I am scared of suffering beyond this world because my body was tortured and in result my soul is crushed. A traumatic death would make things even worse if spirit still continues to exist. I am literally a child, I want my mother to hold me while I am going I can not go like this.

If there is nothing, or if our spirit fades away after some time until brain is completely dead I am still afraid. If I am not me anymore, I wanted that me to at least experience some things. Life didn't even let me fulfil some of my dreams. It didn't let me do anything, I am too young. I know children died in wars but this is too cruel, too awfull. I wanted at least to leave some parts of my soul here, or at least to be remembered in a good way by loved ones. They will all hate me. I know that they do not know my suffering, they are not in my body, but it hurts me too much.

I feel like you! I don't want to cease existing, and everything that makes me cease too, i hate this so much...