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rabbitjack

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I read your response and replied that if consciousness is fundamental and matter just an appearance within it, then what we call "becoming unconscious" is just a figure of speech. Consciousness itself is never lost, it is just the particular pattern within it that you call "you" that is temporarily halted.
But if "you" is halted, if there is no "you" to confirm consciousness, who says that it exists or is fundamental? "You" only say it is fundamental while experiencing it. What if all "other people" that will also confirm it were just your imagination and they end with "you"? This line of thinking approaches nondualism where the suggestion is that nothing has ever happened.
 
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Endlichkeit

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Feb 26, 2023
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But if "you" is halted, if there is no "you" to confirm consciousness, who says that it exists or is fundamental? "You" only say it is fundamental while experiencing it. What if all "other people" that will also confirm it were just your imagination and they end with "you"? This line of thinking approaches nondualism where the suggestion is that nothing has ever happened.
As I said, the "true experiencer" (universal consciousness) never dies because "I" is merely the content of the experience of it. Other "sub-observers" will continue to exist within it, possibly expressing the same ideas as me.
Yes, could be that all "other people" end with "me", but what I'm describing is not solipsism, since my ego is not fundamental here.
And nondualism does not imply that nothing has ever happened.

All of this is, of course, unfalsifiable. I have simply tried to come up with a worldview with the fewest inconsistencies. For me, this resolves many "paradoxes" in quantum mechanics and the hard problem of consciousness.
 
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rabbitjack

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Dec 6, 2025
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As I said, the "true experiencer" (universal consciousness) never dies because "I" is merely the content of the experience of it. Other "sub-observers" will continue to exist within it, possibly expressing the same ideas as me.
Yes, could be that all "other people" end with "me", but what I'm describing is not solipsism, since my ego is not fundamental here.
And nondualism does not imply that nothing has ever happened.

All of this is, of course, unfalsifiable. I have simply tried to come up with a worldview with the fewest inconsistencies. For me, this resolves many "paradoxes" in quantum mechanics and the hard problem of consciousness.
Nondualism definitely implies nothing has ever happened. Read Papaji, Jim Newman, Tony Parsons etc.. (radical nondualists). Nothing only appears to happen, but it's still just nothing.

"the "true experiencer" (universal consciousness) never dies because "I" is merely the content of the experience of it"
Yes, but what happens when there is no "I"? Then there is no experience, as there is no experiencer. Just like when you die.

Consciousness and unconsciousness are part of the play of duality, the appearance of Nothing.
 
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Endlichkeit

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Feb 26, 2023
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Nondualism definitely implies nothing has ever happened. Read Papaji, Jim Newman, Tony Parsons etc.. (radical nondualists). Nothing only appears to happen, but it's still just nothing.

"the "true experiencer" (universal consciousness) never dies because "I" is merely the content of the experience of it"
Yes, but what happens when there is no "I"? Then there is no experience, as there is no experiencer. Just like when you die.

Consciousness and unconsciousness are part of the play of duality, the appearance of Nothing.
I agree that things only appear to happen from this particular point of view that I call "mine". However, as I said, I don't think it is possible to completely escape this illusion, it is possible to see through it though.

Right now there's no "I", there is no "I" at all as some separate entity. There is only an experience of the "I"/ego. So non-existence is only possible in the sense that this particular pattern that I call "I" will cease to exist, but experience as a whole/universal observer will not. You've probably heard the metaphor of a wave disappearing into the ocean. If you want to call it unconsciousness - fine, but ultimately there's no difference between being any observer, so it makes no difference if this particular "I" disappears - there could be infinitely more "I"s.
 

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