Sarco suicide capsule ‘passes legal review’ in Switzerland

[Tamara Tami]

you know if the instructions to build sarco are already available in pp book?

 

[eternalmelancholy]

It's a publicity stunt and a way for Dr. PN to gift money even more. Barbiturates (or any of the other suitable anesthetic combinations) are dirt cheap (and likely cheaper than the gas they will put in the Sarco) when acquired through legal means. 99% of people (and their family) would choose an anesthetic death over the Dr. PN maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, time to pay another unexpected $300 fee, inert gas chamber any day of the week tbh.

Yeah I don't see how this could ever top N or inert gas. Another money making scheme from Nitschke?

 

[Chronicillness]

I get that this is meant to be an improvement on this method's alternative, which is having a hood over your head, but dying inside an enclosed space not much bigger than the human body would totally freak me out. This would trigger claustrophobia for me.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

I get that this is meant to be an improvement on this method's alternative, which is having a hood over your head, but dying inside an enclosed space not much bigger than the human body would totally freak me out. This would trigger claustrophobia for me.

I already freak out over sleeping bags (feel like a trapped mummy). This tron looking coffin would make me feel very uncomfortable.

 

[Chronicillness]

I already freak out over sleeping bags (feel like a trapped mummy). This tron looking coffin would make me feel very uncomfortable.

Imagine actually bringing this out into the forest or some other idyllic setting like the beach. The shear unnaturalness of having what looks like that man-made placenta that neo from "The Matrix" wakes up in after swallowing the red pill out there in nature, just posted up, in a non-threatening setting, would totally make that method uncomfortably uncanny and alien.

I'd rather have a hood over my head in a more open space, like my bedroom, than encase myself in a coffin. When I look at this monstrosity of a chamber, I automatically think that I am going to be buried alive while inside of it.

A suicide "chamber" should be a chamber in which you can still be mobile, and it should be more aerated. Even if you're not going to be moving around, it's nice to feel like the walls aren't closing in during your last moments alive. And I get that there needs to be a control on what gases fill up the chamber to ensure death, but that looks suffocating.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Sounds not good. If I am correct, exit capsule is used instead of exit bag in this project. If I understood correctly it works like this, you go inside the capsule and release the liquid nitrogen. The liquid nitrogen turns into gas and is replaced by air inside the capsule. Since nitrogen is homogeneously dispersed in the room air, how do we push O2 out and fill it with N? With this method, the O2 in the capsule will decrease at a very slow rate. How many liters of N per minute does the transition of liquid nitrogen to gaseous mean? If N is homogeneously distributed in the capsule, how do you know how much O2 you have pushed out? If I'm correct, this would cause unconsciousness to take a very long time and cause tachypnea. The fact that someone is conscious of being in that capsule to die, and that comes with the psychological pressure, seems like a pretty disturbing scenario. In the classical inert gas method, almost 100% nitrogen or helium is inhaled, after removing all the air from the lungs. It allows it to work fast and be peaceful. The capsule does not seem to meet these requirements.

Not sure how exactly it works, but in a video Nitschke said that they tested it, and he said O2 levels were reduced to nearly zero rapidly.

 

[justsayin]

Sounds not good. If I am correct, exit capsule is used instead of exit bag in this project. If I understood correctly it works like this, you go inside the capsule and release the liquid nitrogen. The liquid nitrogen turns into gas and is replaced by air inside the capsule. Since nitrogen is homogeneously dispersed in the room air, how do we push O2 out and fill it with N? With this method, the O2 in the capsule will decrease at a very slow rate. How many liters of N per minute does the transition of liquid nitrogen to gaseous mean? If N is homogeneously distributed in the capsule, how do you know how much O2 you have pushed out? If I'm correct, this would cause unconsciousness to take a very long time and cause tachypnea. The fact that someone is conscious of being in that capsule to die, and that comes with the psychological pressure, seems like a pretty disturbing scenario. In the classical inert gas method, almost 100% nitrogen or helium is inhaled, after removing all the air from the lungs. It allows it to work fast and be peaceful. The capsule does not seem to meet these requirements.

High flowrate results in turbulent airflow, and could flush this chamber relatively fast. Evaporation of any liquid requires adding heat. Making liquid nitrogen evaporate at certain rate should not be complicated for any competent engineer.

Yeah I don't see how this could ever top N or inert gas. Another money making scheme from Nitschke?

This is inert gas, with extra steps.

 

[callme]

In any case, even if it does become the new standart, it will always be expensive. "Death with dignity" will always be a business

 

[justsayin]

In any case, even if it does become the new standart, it will always be expensive. "Death with dignity" will always be a business

I think it was never intended to be a "new standard", but more of a luxury option for those with money to burn.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Not sure how exactly it works, but in a video Nitschke said that they tested it, and he said O2 levels were reduced to nearly zero rapidly.

If he had clearly written the working principle of the capsule, we could have discussed it. It doesn't seem realistic with hypothetical ideas.

 

[callme]

If he had clearly written the working principle of the capsule, we could have discussed it. It doesn't seem realistic with hypothetical ideas.

He's going to. Maybe he is just waiting out this (or the next month's) PPH publication and sure enough, the Sarco mechanism will be explained there. Something makes me think the PPH is going to grow noticeably.

Philip wouldn't write up 15 extra words on nembutal, but maybe he's going to spend at least 15 pages on Sarco, because it's his creation. And $$$$$ (sorry, no idea what the australian dollars sign is).

P.S. I have never seen anybody utilise any translator better than you.

 

[amnotreal]

i just came to find a thread about these. i like the idea of it just that it is comfortable and easy. i do wish we had them here.

 

[Sunset Limited]

He's going to. Maybe he is just waiting out this (or the next month's) PPH publication and sure enough, the Sarco mechanism will be explained there. Something makes me think the PPH is going to grow noticeably.

Philip wouldn't write up 15 extra words on nembutal, but maybe he's going to spend at least 15 pages on Sarco, because it's his creation. And $$$$$ (sorry, no idea what the australian dollars sign is).

P.S. I have never seen anybody utilise any translator better than you.

My english is weak but still I can see shat is wrong in translate. Just correcting :) Google translate is going to better I can see that.

 

[wanttodie]

wish we had them here.

 

[callme]

My english is weak but still I can see shat is wrong in translate. Just correcting :) Google translate is going to better I can see that.

Yeah, that's why I think you'll be good the more you study. As for Google Translate getting better, are you sure?

 

[Untetheredwill]

Lmao it's the real life version of this:

Link in case the image embedding doesn't work:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/suicide_booth8478898.png

Beat me to it Reality is crazy.

Edit - also why do some guys hate Nitschke

 

[justsayin]

Beat me to it Reality is crazy.

Edit - also why do some guys hate Nitschke

You may find the answer to that question in this thread:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-truth-about-philip-nitschke.77917/

 

[Wojaczek]

That's some battle angel alita shit

Endjoy

The Endjoy was a public booth located in the Dome Park of Tiphares. The Endjoy was an oval structure with a short flight of steps leading into a darkly tinted door. When entered it played soothing music and a message stating "Welcome to Endjoy, now just relax and step into the inner hatch"...

battleangel.fandom.com

 

[justsayin]

You know something is serious when The Onion makes an article about it.

https://www.theonion.com/assisted-suicide-pod-offering-painless-death-cleared-1848208418

 

[callme]

You know something is serious when The Onion makes an article abou it

https://www.theonion.com/assisted-suicide-pod-offering-painless-death-cleared-1848208418

They still employ journalists. Try medium.com, articles in fanfiction style. "I'm a rational person and here's 5 reasons dogs are awful"

 

[lmon]

Philip nitschke is total bmf and you're jealous

He is daddy

 

[LADY007]

Sarco suicide capsule hopes to enter Switzerland

A 3D-printed capsule destined for use in assisted suicide hopes to operate in Switzerland, according to Exit International.

www.swissinfo.ch

"A 3D-printed capsule, destined for use in assisted suicide, may legally be operated in Switzerland, according to advice obtained by Exit International, the organisation that developed the 'Sarco' machine."

Looks comfy.

Love the concept of Sarco...probably won't love the cost. Will be interesting to see what that cost be.