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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,798
Most suicide prevention strategies focus on forcibly keeping you alive for as long as possible in a "sterile", clinical environment like a psychiatric ward, rather than providing you with resources that might actually improve your quality of life.

Society is obsessed with an austere concept of longevity/health, when in reality, this dogma is perpetuated by fear of liability rather than genuine concern for a person's wellbeing/what would make them happy. Ease the worries of others, as opposed to easing your own suffering.

Nowhere else is this harsh truth as striking as when it comes to matters of suicidality or prolonged chronic pain. You are a danger to yourself. You shouldn't be allowed to have control over your own body. Why? Because we said so, and the government is the authority on what you desire, obviously. No sane person refuses the prospect of living on eternally (AKA expiring at the ripe age of 90 in a care home with numerous dehabilitating health problems)

Everything is "for our safety" but there's only so much joy that can be attained in a controlled, monitored biofascist dystopia where every decision is made for us. In a few years we will have nanotechnology rolling out that can administer psychiatric drugs whenever the patient experiences certain thoughts, allowing the electrochemical signals associated with these thoughts to be relayed to the sensors within the mechanical implant.

How do we know this technology wouldn't be used for malicious reasons? There's already a vile undercurrent brewing in today's climate, a viscous dichotomy where people are either overmedicated for issues they don't have or issues that can't be fixed, or undermedicated because the sanctimonious infantalizing medical machina has decided you can't be trusted with pain relief or experimental treatment for your incurable disease.

None of this is for your own good, it's so their asses won't end up on the chopping block. Do no harm.. Unless your fat salary is at risk by actually easing a person's suffering or showing them empathy. You can be writhing in pain for years and still not be allowed any analgesiacs because some people out there get high on them.

And what right does the ruling class have to tell people they can't do that? No matter how stupid one thinks the decision is, no matter how much it goes against the prospect of longevity at all costs, what right to we have to tell people they can't get high if that's the only thing sparking a modicum of happiness for them?

I guarentee you, a lot of these addicts aren't doing it for fun. They are doing it to escape some unfathomable pain, or because the environment they are forced to live in has enabled the behaviour. I have seen it with my own eyes on our street corners, the hell some homeless addicts are forced to endure because they have been left for dead by society.

Yet, people say we are not doing enough to keep people safe. We haven't restricted enough chemicals! We haven't hired more cops or expanded psychiatric wards! If only "mental health" was not so stigmatised, we could lock even more people up in defacto prisons and humiliate them.

Every single "reform" in the medical industry goes one step forward and two steps back. I have no hope things will ever improve, because individuals are always going to be blamed for their problems, socio-economic resources will not be distributed to those who need them, the cult of therapy worship and psych drugs with low efficacy will continue.

This extends past suicidality- keep in mind, if you are suicidal you are assumed to be mentally ill by the authorities no matter what is driving you to the act- where doctors, nurses, and those in positions of power get to decide how your suffering is perceived in the public eye. If you have an invisible illness and longterm chronic pain, good luck. Everyone will blame you for not trying hard enough to be stoic.

People do not take invisible disabilities seriously, and will parrot the same advice about yoga and meditation as if you've been living on a rock and not been told this trite advice 382892 times.

If you want to seek any kind of assistance or want to be validated that you're actually in pain, every institution will require letters from the all powerful doctors, even if the doctors have less knowledge then a layman about your condition and honestly don't have a bloody clue about what to do. You're tossed around and told to keep seeking help when the help physically does not exist, but because society worships our beloved healthcare heroes, you're the sour apple who didn't try hard enough to accept the nonexistent help they offered.

Everything carries a risk assessment, a contemplation of liability. How about the state give us some control over our own damn lives? It scares me that if in this moment, I suddenly fell down the stairs and bonked my head on the wall, I would be forced to recieve medical attention and comply with whatever they want even if I don't consent to it.

It is a tragedy that I have to meticulously plan my ctb and fret over every last detail so that I will not be caught again. I don't think the police and paramedics will let me be more than once. It was a miracle last time that I was not sent to a psych ward for my egregious thought crime of wanting autonomy over my life. Why can't people accept that it is my body and my choice if I die or not?

I would be far happier if I had actual control over what happens to me. I think I have the right to put whatever substance I want into my body, just like I have the right to refuse things being done to me that I'm uncomfortable with. I wish I could have actual pain medication. I wish that I could die comfortably in a calm, tranquil environment as opposed to being in a lonely, frenzied rush.

Society cares way too much about safety and far too little about happiness.
 
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Simba

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Missunderstood Potato
Dec 9, 2018
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Most suicide prevention strategies focus on forcibly keeping you alive for as long as possible in a "sterile", clinical environment like a psychiatric ward, rather than providing you with resources that might actually improve your quality of life.

Society is obsessed with an austere concept of longevity/health, when in reality, this dogma is perpetuated by fear of liability rather than genuine concern for a person's wellbeing/what would make them happy. Ease the worries of others, as opposed to easing your own suffering.

Nowhere else is this harsh truth as striking as when it comes to matters of suicidality or prolonged chronic pain. You are a danger to yourself. You shouldn't be allowed to have control over your own body. Why? Because we said so, and the government is the authority on what you desire, obviously. No sane person refuses the prospect of living on eternally (AKA expiring at the ripe age of 90 in a care home with numerous dehabilitating health problems)

Everything is "for our safety" but there's only so much joy that can be attained in a controlled, monitored biofascist dystopia where every decision is made for us. In a few years we will have nanotechnology rolling out that can administer psychiatric drugs whenever the patient experiences certain thoughts, allowing the electrochemical signals associated with these thoughts to be relayed to the sensors within the mechanical implant.

How do we know this technology wouldn't be used for malicious reasons? There's already a vile undercurrent brewing in today's climate, a viscous dichotomy where people are either overmedicated for issues they don't have or issues that can't be fixed, or undermedicated because the sanctimonious infantalizing medical machina has decided you can't be trusted with pain relief or experimental treatment for your incurable disease.

None of this is for your own good, it's so their asses won't end up on the chopping block. Do no harm.. Unless your fat salary is at risk by actually easing a person's suffering or showing them empathy. You can be writhing in pain for years and still not be allowed any analgesiacs because some people out there get high on them.

And what right does the ruling class have to tell people they can't do that? No matter how stupid one thinks the decision is, no matter how much it goes against the prospect of longevity at all costs, what right to we have to tell people they can't get high if that's the only thing sparking a modicum of happiness for them?

I guarentee you, a lot of these addicts aren't doing it for fun. They are doing it to escape some unfathomable pain, or because the environment they are forced to live in has enabled the behaviour. I have seen it with my own eyes on our street corners, the hell some homeless addicts are forced to endure because they have been left for dead by society.

Yet, people say we are not doing enough to keep people safe. We haven't restricted enough chemicals! We haven't hired more cops or expanded psychiatric wards! If only "mental health" was not so stigmatised, we could lock even more people up in defacto prisons and humiliate them.

Every single "reform" in the medical industry goes one step forward and two steps back. I have no hope things will ever improve, because individuals are always going to be blamed for their problems, socio-economic resources will not be distributed to those who need them, the cult of therapy worship and psych drugs with low efficacy will continue.

This extends past suicidality- keep in mind, if you are suicidal you are assumed to be mentally ill by the authorities no matter what is driving you to the act- where doctors, nurses, and those in positions of power get to decide how your suffering is perceived in the public eye. If you have an invisible illness and longterm chronic pain, good luck. Everyone will blame you for not trying hard enough to be stoic.

People do not take invisible disabilities seriously, and will parrot the same advice about yoga and meditation as if you've been living on a rock and not been told this trite advice 382892 times.

If you want to seek any kind of assistance or want to be validated that you're actually in pain, every institution will require letters from the all powerful doctors, even if the doctors have less knowledge then a layman about your condition and honestly don't have a bloody clue about what to do. You're tossed around and told to keep seeking help when the help physically does not exist, but because society worships our beloved healthcare heroes, you're the sour apple who didn't try hard enough to accept the nonexistent help they offered.

Everything carries a risk assessment, a contemplation of liability. How about the state give us some control over our own damn lives? It scares me that if in this moment, I suddenly fell down the stairs and bonked my head on the wall, I would be forced to recieve medical attention and comply with whatever they want even if I don't consent to it.

It is a tragedy that I have to meticulously plan my ctb and fret over every last detail so that I will not be caught again. I don't think the police and paramedics will let me be more than once. It was a miracle last time that I was not sent to a psych ward for my egregious thought crime of wanting autonomy over my life. Why can't people accept that it is my body and my choice if I die or not?

I would be far happier if I had actual control over what happens to me. I think I have the right to put whatever substance I want into my body, just like I have the right to refuse things being done to me that I'm uncomfortable with. I wish I could have actual pain medication. I wish that I could die comfortably in a calm, tranquil environment as opposed to being in a lonely, frenzied rush.

Society cares way too much about safety and far too less about happiness.
I can feel the sadness and frustration in your post ,lets also not forget the architecture benches etc they use in order to "prevent" homeless people from laying down on them .. they must be so damn contagious ! (Not true)

For some ,medication helps but not for everyone. Something that Society fails to see completely. In the past it was "Asylums" "Madhouse" "Loonybin" for locking up people like us - people who arent "typical".. you see someone who's extremely upset and cant seem to get over their sadness ? Just send a telegram to this asylum and we'll come and collect them ! Asylums and all those places existed to "get rid" of people like us by locking us up without our consent.

Nonexistent help for people like me who has autism with comborditys all cause i have autism i belong in 1 corner while all people with mental illnesses belong in another corner. Its a joke. Society talks about inclusivity. That's a joke too. At the end of the day ,is there really inclusivity ? If there was real inclusivity and not the fake kind and a hell of a lot more understanding on societys part maybe there wouldnt be as many people killing themselves in the end.

They all cover up their own backsides. Thats how it works these days. I mean what is so wrong with giving us a choice over our own lives ? Oh thats right - youre too afraid that we will off ourselves because thats what we want therefore taking extra measures to ensure that your place as a psychiatrist or whatever and that all the years of learning to be one wont go down the drain. Society is a joke. Most things are fake. The answers to the problems could be underneath their noses but they just couldn't even bother their own backsides ,instead medicating us all just cause it suits them ,takes less time and effort.

But when someone wants to off themselves ,is like "OH NO I THINK THIS PERSON IS A DANGER TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS !" emphasis on the "others" - because the people around are more important than the actual person whos suffering. Yes.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I see suicide prevention strategies as just prolonging suffering. The society tries to force us to live, this is cruel, it is our life, our decision and nobody else has any say in it. You are right, people should be able to be allowed to die in peace without being worried about being caught too early. We all deserve a right to die on our own terms. Of course the society places more emphasis on quantity rather than quality lives.
 
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