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Guest4691

Member
Jun 23, 2022
10
Hello All,
I am planning to ctb by the SN method (48hour regime or 4hours regime depends on the day itself)
I have a couple of questions to ask
I have both ondansetron as well as metoclopramide. According to Google, Ondansetron is a more effective for anti nausea, but Stan's guide recommended metoclopramide.
Since I have both, which and how much should I use?

How long before the SN drink should I take my Xanax and Proponolol?

Appreciate any constructive feedback, much thanks!
 
catflowers

catflowers

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Jul 31, 2022
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stan's guide is better result but i think google is wrong about ondansetron. i would just stick to metoclopramide. if you want to know how much you should use, you have to do some number crunching with moles on your body weight and size .
the sn drink should be a short waiting period because it kills fast but xanax should be used right away. proponolol should come after.
 
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waitingforrest

Elementalist
Dec 27, 2021
845
I'm sure you can find some old threads of what former members did.

Sorry it's not what you want to hear.

Whatever you choose, please do research. There are many resources out there that can help you decide. It wouldn't be wise to just trust a random stranger's advice without doing your own research.
 
Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,490
I'm using both.
In the updated version of the PPEH it mentions using both is fine. I'm not sure why people don't recommend new users to read the ppeh as well.
Using both is fine I will definitely be using both. Check out the PPEH as well as there is updated information.
 
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befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
2,593
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-309

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/rating-anti-emetics.95634/#post-1675145

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/what-antiemetics-are-good-enough-for-sn.89802/#post-1591811
 
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JustTooHard

Member
Jul 22, 2022
33
Hello All,
I am planning to ctb by the SN method (48hour regime or 4hours regime depends on the day itself)
I have a couple of questions to ask
I have both ondansetron as well as metoclopramide. According to Google, Ondansetron is a more effective for anti nausea, but Stan's guide recommended metoclopramide.
Since I have both, which and how much should I use?

How long before the SN drink should I take my Xanax and Proponolol?

Appreciate any constructive feedback, much thanks!
I want to do this too, would love a partner
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
I'm using both.
In the updated version of the PPEH it mentions using both is fine. I'm not sure why people don't recommend new users to read the ppeh as well.
Using both is fine I will definitely be using both. Check out the PPEH as well as there is updated information.
I do not see in the PPEH where it says using both is fine.
 
Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,490
I do not see in the PPEH where it says using both is fine.
I'm going to go look right now maybe I read it wrong but I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that it was fine I'm going to download it and check right now.
It could le have been on suicide wiki. I'm checking one sec.
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
I'm going to go look right now maybe I read it wrong but I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that it was fine I'm going to download it and check right now.
It could le have been on suicide wiki. I'm checking one sec.
Firefox won't let me visit the suicide wiki anymore for some reason. Warnings, alerts, etc.
 
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Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,490
Is that the current PPEH? Because I'm looking at the current one on their webpage and it doesn't say thiIt's
It's the one from April. Regardless I'm taking both of them.
So what does the new one say do you mind screenshotting it for us? Did they ever mention anything about the antacids?
PN is always adding and changing things. That guy is really confusing. He doesn't even take the time to try to explain why he changes things either.
 
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Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
It's the one from April. Regardless I'm taking both of them.
So what does the new one say do you mind screenshotting it for us? Did they ever mention anything about the antacids?
I hope this is an acceptable way to screenshot: https://gyazo.com/4c88b3a00eaf530e2736206bc5ccccdf
They no longer recommend antacids or PPIs. Just what you see in that clip.
Oh and I agree about all the time changing things. I don't like the fact that we're now told to take a benzo AFTER the sn. Makes no sense to me.
 
Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,490
I hope this is an acceptable way to screenshot: https://gyazo.com/4c88b3a00eaf530e2736206bc5ccccdf
They no longer recommend antacids or PPIs. Just what you see in that clip.
Oh and I agree about all the time changing things. I don't like the fact that we're now told to take a benzo AFTER the sn. Makes no sense to me.
So it doesn't even mention dry fasting for 2 hours before taking it. Is that the only information about what medications to take? I'll tell you he really makes it confusing.
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
So it doesn't even mention dry fasting for 2 hours before taking it. Is that the only information about what medications to take? I'll tell you he really makes it confusing.
Yeah, that's the sum total, right there.
 
veryhappyhuman

veryhappyhuman

Specialist
Aug 25, 2021
342
I hope this is an acceptable way to screenshot: https://gyazo.com/4c88b3a00eaf530e2736206bc5ccccdf
They no longer recommend antacids or PPIs. Just what you see in that clip.
Oh and I agree about all the time changing things. I don't like the fact that we're now told to take a benzo AFTER the sn. Makes no sense to me.
JFC, I know it's mentioned in an optional way, but 20 units of oxazepam? Swallowing that many pills seems to me like it'd lead to vomiting on its own? Not to mention chugging all that extra water after carefully limiting SN dilution.
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
JFC, I know it's mentioned in an optional way, but 20 units of oxazepam? Swallowing that many pills seems to me like it'd lead to vomiting on its own? Not to mention chugging all that extra water after carefully limiting SN dilution.
The amount of benzos is astonishing. https://gyazo.com/2a23b67ef1fb11c24b0418284f5a94a2
BTW the book no longer recommends an antacid because it says the benefits cannot be established.
 
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Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,490
The amount of benzos is astonishing. https://gyazo.com/2a23b67ef1fb11c24b0418284f5a94a2
BTW the book no longer recommends an antacid because it says the benefits cannot be established.
Yeah I actually made a post with a screenshot of the response from Philip explaining why they are no longer established but then again he really didn't go into depth about it he pretty much said that it will make you lose consciousness quicker by not taking it.
 
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Guest4691

Member
Jun 23, 2022
10
JFC, I know it's mentioned in an optional way, but 20 units of oxazepam? Swallowing that many pills seems to me like it'd lead to vomiting on its own? Not to mention chugging all that extra water after carefully limiting SN dilution.
how much xanax should i take? i only have xanax and proponolol
 
FallenStar

FallenStar

Global Mod
Oct 23, 2021
289
I hope this is an acceptable way to screenshot: https://gyazo.com/4c88b3a00eaf530e2736206bc5ccccdf
They no longer recommend antacids or PPIs. Just what you see in that clip.
Oh and I agree about all the time changing things. I don't like the fact that we're now told to take a benzo AFTER the sn. Makes no sense to me.
I understand that now you recommend taking propranolol instead of mixing it with sn right?
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
I understand that now you recommend taking propranolol instead of mixing it with sn right?
I'm not recommending anything, just sharing what I learned in the PPEH. The rationale behind the changes isn't shared.
how much xanax should i take? i only have xanax and proponolol
I can't answer that. I have the same question about lorazepam.
 
Doombox

Doombox

Who knows, who cares
Apr 7, 2022
359
Please note, with apologies, that the gyazo links no longer work.
 
veryhappyhuman

veryhappyhuman

Specialist
Aug 25, 2021
342
I'm not recommending anything, just sharing what I learned in the PPEH. The rationale behind the changes isn't shared.

I can't answer that. I have the same question about lorazepam.

@Doombox @Guest4691 In the below resource post, you can find something called "Benzodiazepine Equivalence Table". I hope it helps.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/
 
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Sniffer

Member
Jul 12, 2022
75
Need help too. I have Olanzapine Instead of Meto. What dose of Olanzapine should I use for the two day as per Stans guide? To replace 10mg Meto?
 
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PainAndSadness

Student
Sep 21, 2022
123
Does anyone know what antacid would be effective? Is famotidine good?
 
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neurotica

Member
May 10, 2022
27
I'm using both.
In the updated version of the PPEH it mentions using both is fine. I'm not sure why people don't recommend new users to read the ppeh as well.
Using both is fine I will definitely be using both. Check out the PPEH as well as there is updated information.
First time posting. Don’t have a computer and not sure how to find info with my phone. Where can I look? Thanks. I found SN. 2lb container. It’s 99+ granular form. Am uncertain if this is what I’m looking for. If anyone could guide me, I would appreciate it. I tried with prescriptions, woke up in hospital. My sister gave up on me. I’ve successfully cut myself off from everyone. I keep putting it off. My bday. Then my sons bday. Then Xmas. Then ny’s. I don’t want to hurt them. But what’s the point? I don’t feel the same.
 
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ojinzo

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Feb 21, 2022
303
I'm sure you can find some old threads of what former members did.

Sorry it's not what you want to hear.

Whatever you choose, please do research. There are many resources out there that can help you decide. It wouldn't be wise to just trust a random stranger's advice without doing your own research.
Here's a couple of plans I screenshot in prep for my bus ride. Hope it helps Screenshot 20220909 085938 Screenshot 20220909 075731 Screenshot 20220909 073646
 
wljourney

wljourney

Waiting for the bus
Apr 2, 2022
1,337
First time posting. Don’t have a computer and not sure how to find info with my phone. Where can I look? Thanks. I found SN. 2lb container. It’s 99+ granular form. Am uncertain if this is what I’m looking for. If anyone could guide me, I would appreciate it. I tried with prescriptions, woke up in hospital. My sister gave up on me. I’ve successfully cut myself off from everyone. I keep putting it off. My bday. Then my sons bday. Then Xmas. Then ny’s. I don’t want to hurt them. But what’s the point? I don’t feel the same.
Welcome. Your account is new, so you don't have the "search" function yet in the top right corner of your screen. Once you have been a member for a few days and have posted/replied/interacted about 10 times with others the search field will show up and make it easier to find threads that may be of interest to you.

If you already found SN at 99% purity you are ahead of the game.
Depending on your location (country) it can be a bit of a hassle to source/order/receive.
Most businesses that sell SN restrict themselves to only sell to other businesses (like universities, labs, butchers etc), a few though do sell to private addresses. Just make sure your shipping address and billing address match.
 
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neurotica

Member
May 10, 2022
27
Welcome. Your account is new, so you don't have the "search" function yet in the top right corner of your screen. Once you have been a member for a few days and have posted/replied/interacted about 10 times with others the search field will show up and make it easier to find threads that may be of interest to you.

If you already found SN at 99% purity you are ahead of the game.
Depending on your location (country) it can be a bit of a hassle to source/order/receive.
Most businesses that sell SN restrict themselves to only sell to other businesses (like universities, labs, butchers etc), a few though do sell to private addresses. Just make sure your shipping address and billing address match.
I placed my order. Let’s see how long it takes. Also looking into meta. That requires a script? Migraines? My son just called ‘thinking of you…want to see you’. Gut punch 😔 feel guilty
 
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