report of 3 fatal case by SN, new article

[Aap]

That is neither needed nor appropriate

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

It is not required and quite honest it's disgusting to ask.

I am a rational thinking person, so the question even makes sense to me and doesn't bother me at all.
There will be clear evidence, I will make sure of that.

Otherwise the whole thing would only be worth half as much.
It finally takes a usable answer to what happens after you can no longer write. Whether that is peaceful unconsciousness or miserable death.
But I'm pretty sure it will be the blue smurf calm.

 

[Living sucks]

I need your calm mind to join me during my exit as I'm in panic everyday about my ctb.
Im forced by health but I don't want to go :(

I wish I could be calm like you and not fear

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

If you have someone who cares that much about you to be with you during death, they love you in life and maybe you have reasons to find living worthwhile? I dont know why you want or need to ctb so I am not in judgement.. but i do believe it should be the absolute last option.

There is no one who has loved me in life or now loves me.

37 years ago, I would have chosen the option ctb better than the first when I realized that life is meaningless and worthless

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

I need your calm mind to join me during my exit as I'm in panic everyday about my ctb.
Im forced by health but I don't want to go :(

I wish I could be calm like you and not fear

Use benzodiaspines or Oxycodone. That will make sure your anxiety is translated to euphoria. Guaranteed.

 

[Living sucks]

Use benzodiaspines or Oxycodone. That will make sure your anxiety is translated to euphoria. Guaranteed.

This is where you can't assume anything for anyone.. all drugs have a paradoxical affect on me and cause more anxiety

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

IMHO the question is free to ask. I asked respectfully. Killing yourself with SN and documenating it througholy will ease the minds of thousands of people going with SN. It's a heroic act. Unless it's very painful then maybe several suicides can be prevented which is also in some peopels eyes a good thing.

I see only benefits here. He'll be dead so, with all respect, he won't have to care about the ethics around it.


Even if I have narcisstic personality disorder I can emphatize with people that hate life and want to end it badly, and so they can help their comrades in the same situation by easing their minds and going through with it peacefully.

I am glad that you recognize the advantages, that is my intention.

And yes, when I am dead I am no longer interested in ethics.
We don't have time to discuss ethical issues for a long time, facts are needed.

But please don't call me a hero. I don't do anything like other users do every day. Watching yourself die is not a big deal.

Just a last service to this wonderful community in this forum.

I love you all and would miss you if I knew I was dead

I need your calm mind to join me during my exit as I'm in panic everyday about my ctb.
Im forced by health but I don't want to go :(

I wish I could be calm like you and not fear

Unfortunately you are not in Switzerland, otherwise I would like to accompany you to the bus.

My calm mind, which now makes me think and act so rationally about ctb, is unfortunately the main reason why I stand at this point. It all has its advantages and disadvantages

For me, the thought of dying is nice.
I will be happy like a little child if I hold the glass with SN in my hand. And I will enjoy the time afterwards when I can feel the effect. When I know I'll be dead in a few minutes.

I just think it's a shame, I can only die once and don't even know afterwards.

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

I am glad that you recognize the advantages, that is my intention.

And yes, when I am dead I am no longer interested in ethics.
We don't have time to discuss ethical issues for a long time, facts are needed.

But please don't call me a hero. I don't do anything like other users do every day. Watching yourself die is not a big deal.

Just a last service to this wonderful community in this forum.

I love you all and would miss you if I knew I was dead

Unfortunately you are not in Switzerland, otherwise I would like to accompany you to the bus.

My calm mind, which now makes me think and act so rationally about ctb, is unfortunately the main reason why I stand at this point. It all has its advantages and disadvantages

For me, the thought of dying is nice.
I will be happy like a little child if I hold the glass with SN in my hand. And I will enjoy the time afterwards when I can feel the effect. When I know I'll be dead in a few minutes.

I just think it's a shame, I can only die once and don't even know afterwards.

The experience of actually not knowing what comes next is for me sort of a mysticism mixed with euphoria.
I like the idea of venturing in something that is completely unknown to us, when on the contrary, all in this life is so predictable. Nice looking people fuck nice looking people. Stuff like that is so predicatble and boring. Death , thats is a mystery worth uncovering.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

The experience of actually not knowing what comes next is for me sort of a mysticism mixed with euphoria.
I like the idea of venturing in something that is completely unknown to us, when on the contrary, all in this life is so predictable. Nice looking people fuck nice looking people. Stuff like that is so predicatble and boring. Death , thats is a mystery worth uncovering.

The thought is interesting, but not for me

I know for sure that there is nothing after that. It would be illogical and just not realistic

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I think with the case where they state 113g was ingested is wrong. They have clearly just assumed that amount as the bottle was empty and stated it held 113g SN.
It could have been a much smaller dose.

 

[Living sucks]

I think with the case where they state 113g was ingested is wrong. They have clearly just assumed that amount as the bottle was empty and stated it held 113g SN.
It could have been a much smaller dose.

Wasn't it personally reported before the person went unconscious? And the blood test couldn't record the level it wax too high ?

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Wasn't it personally reported before the person went unconscious? And the blood test couldn't record the level it wax too high ?

He might have just said I took what was in the bottle but it might not have been full. I guess we will never really know.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

The experience of actually not knowing what comes next is for me sort of a mysticism mixed with euphoria.
I like the idea of venturing in something that is completely unknown to us, when on the contrary, all in this life is so predictable. Nice looking people fuck nice looking people. Stuff like that is so predicatble and boring. Death , thats is a mystery worth uncovering.

You have uncovered the secret and I wish that you like what you have found.
R.I.P.

 

[Meditation guide]

It finally takes a usable answer to what happens after you can no longer write.

I think you would be doing a huge service to the rest here. Please let us know in advance of exactly when you do this.

I think with the case where they state 113g was ingested is wrong. They have clearly just assumed that amount as the bottle was empty and stated it held 113g SN.
It could have been a much smaller dose.

I've read all the reports from medical papers I can find. It seems that each person handles it differently. Some survive larger amounts than others. Of course not all reports are available on the internet and it's a very small sampling that actually get published on the internet.
Some respond well to the measures they take in the hospital and some die in spite of the best treatment. Most of the time someone finds the person who attempted ctb with SN. An ambulance is called and the person is alive but unconscious when they arrive in the emergency room.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

I think you would be doing a huge service to the rest here. Please let us know in advance of exactly when you do this.

I'll do that for sure. It is my wish that I can give something back to the community.
It is planned in the last days of September

 

[color_me_gone]

For these five cases, who knows how many ctb's were successful, where the person became unconscious nearly immediately. This report focuses only on those who received medical attention. And yes, if unconsciousness / death is not nearly immediate, the person is going to seek medical attention, regardless of how much the person intended to ctb.

This is the problem with using chemicals / drugs to ctb. Every person's body is different.
Each body has an amount of tolerance toward a particular substance.
These people's bodies happened to tolerate SN very well, hence, long time to ctb, with two survivors after treatment.
My body is bulletproof, therefore, I will not rely on a drug or chemical to ctb, it's just too risky.

 

[Meditation guide]

This is the problem with using chemicals / drugs to ctb. Every person's body is different.

I wonder if it would have been 100% ctb, after a time of being unconscious. Or if they would wake up on their own eventually. It's hard to imagine anyone actually surviving that on their own but who knows.

 

[Aap]

I guess firearms are out of the question, then too? I have a sneaking suspicion you do not react well to lack of oxygen either, but I could be mistaken.

 

[color_me_gone]

but I could be mistaken

Actually, inert gas is my choice, but right now, it is on hold, as I am doing better, thanks to this forum.

No method is a 100% guarantee.
You know, there have been cases where people have survived the electric chair, when it was used. At least they survived the first time around.

When it is your time to go, you go. If it is not your time, you get to stay.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

When it is your time to go, you go. If it is not your time, you get to stay.

Who's making this call? I have a bone to pick with them...

 

[color_me_gone]

I have a bone to pick with them...

don't we all?

 

[ayb]

As I've stated numerous times: Remove the damn label off the SN contained before you ctb PLEASE. I anticipate a ban very soonish.
It makes me really livid that they're suggesting it be curtailed in its availability.

 

[FromGermany]

Crap, this kind of scares me now. The lad who was apparently still conscious twelve hours after ingestion and the girl who survived 60 grams. Sure, we can't know in how far they followed the 'regimen' but still.

There have been so many failures with SN, not only because they are not following a guide but also because every body is different, everybody has a different health or age or a combination of all, there are so many factors, and with almost all methods there are rare worst case scenarios, and no one knows, if the own case is not one of those rare cases.

The quote above is a demonstration, that it is not so easy to CTB as it is suggested. One should research also the SN method up to the ultimative limit before swallowing it, in case, you are a rare case and not an easy case.