report of 3 fatal case by SN, new article

[Tereon]

Oh yes, this definitely has to be said. You will look like shit when found, please realise this. Your skin will turn a blueish grey, quite possibly smurf-blue.

Blueish gray skin and brown blood... Interesting...

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

Also interesting, on page 3 it states that the lethal dose for adults is 1 gm.

I found that interesting too. I recall seeing posts by members about "testing it out" with a small amount, unaware that it is still a lethal dose, but not potent enough to knock you out before feeling the painful effects.

Oh yes, this definitely has to be said. You will look like shit when found, please realise this. Your skin will turn a blueish grey, quite possibly smurf-blue.

I've been thinking recently about doing it at home, but I think it will be too traumatic for my husband. The first time I tried, I went to a hotel room. I think I'll do that again, and leave some kind of warning note for the housekeeping staff if possible.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

The more SN, the darker blood turns, right?

No, it's related to the purity of the SN, not the amount.

I had some SN that was supposed to be 99% pure, but when I tested it with my blood, the color turned brown like coffee with cream, not dark chocolate brown. Adding more SN didn't make it darker.

 

[AnniesHideaway]

What's up with the first person taking 100 mg of dimethyl sulfoxide along with the SN. Just seems like a big variable to throw into the mix.

 

[InTheAirTonight]

What's up with the first person taking 100 mg of dimethyl sulfoxide along with the SN. Just seems like a big variable to throw into the mix.

It's also called DMSO, apparently helps SN absorb faster. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/dmso-dimethyl-sulfoxide.10427/post-190057

Note: I do not endorse/agree with anything in that thread

 

[Meditation guide]

I assume the death beign by heart attack pretty accurate

Heart attack means the heart stops beating. Which is what it does when you die. With no oxygen in the blood it stops I guess.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

What I noticed is that on page 4 it mentions that the three who died all died within 1 hour of ingesting SN.

I think this is important in that it implies that for all three their SI kicked in and they immediately called 911. There is no other way for someone to ingest SN, call 911, have 911 arrive, be transported to the hospital, receive treatment, and still die within 1 hour of ingesting SN.

This supports the suggestion to take a benzo or other sleep inducing drug - to help you pass out and not turn yourself in by calling for help.

Also interesting, on page 3 it states that the lethal dose for adults is 1 gm.

I still don't understand why you would call 911 after taking sn.
However bad it is, why not just let it take effect and wait to die? If you are suffering badly enough to actually purchase sn and then ingest it, why call 911.
It doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Living sucks]

I still don't understand why you would call 911 after taking sn.
However bad it is, why not just let it take effect and wait to die? If you are suffering badly enough to actually purchase sn and then ingest it, why call 911.
It doesn't make sense to me.

You've never done something you regret?

 

[WillOxyWork]

I still don't understand why you would call 911 after taking sn.
However bad it is, why not just let it take effect and wait to die? If you are suffering badly enough to actually purchase sn and then ingest it, why call 911.
It doesn't make sense to me.

I've heard that some people regret their decision to ctb as soon as they make that final plunge. I've heard of instances of jumpers (who survived) who said that they regretted it as soon as they leapt.

 

[autumnal]

Someone survived 60g

I'd be prepared to bet that the people who survived the massive doses failed to follow most or all of the protocol.

Perhaps people don't seem to realise that the steps in the protocol are essential. And you can't skip them and compensate for this by taking more SN. It's just not that kind of trade-off.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

You've never done something you regret?

Yes, but this is different.
Drinking sn indicates a real desire to end it all. You don't do this unless you are very sure about wanting to die.
But immediately calling emergency services seems incongruent and inconsistent with this.
Just seems odd to me.

 

[Aap]

It's no different than any intentional OD taken and then decided against. They fall into 2 main categories, those taken With true intent to die and then decided against, and those taken with no full intent and then decided against (proverbial call for help). I don't understand either, but they aren't anything new or unusual.

 

[Soul]

It's also called DMSO, apparently some people wrongly theorise that it helps SN absorb faster. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/dmso-dimethyl-sulfoxide.10427/post-190057

Note: I do not endorse/agree with anything in that thread

It's very good not to endorse or agree with anything in that thread. There's no evidence DMSO enhances internal absorption and plenty of evidence that it doesn't. It enhances *dermal* absorption, period.

Blueish gray skin and brown blood... Interesting...

If that idea bothers someone they should find some other method. I don't get why it would bother anyone, but that's okay.

 

[Living sucks]

I'd be prepared to bet that the people who survived the massive doses failed to follow most or all of the protocol.

Ya she called 911

Yes, but this is different.
Drinking sn indicates a real desire to end it all. You don't do this unless you are very sure about wanting to die.
But immediately calling emergency services seems incongruent and inconsistent with this.
Just seems odd to me.

Not in every case. I have no desire to end my life but I'm dying and suffering every single second of every day so I'm forced to or keep living in hell.. i can't risk more months of torture.. so I'll be drinking SN against my own will regretting every oz but I'm truly at wits end of suffering .

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

I plan my suicide with SN at the end of September.

In order to at least give a little meaning to my life, I will document my death as well as possible with SN.

That means I will not be alone and the whole process will be documented. I will stick to the short form of Stan's guide, without luxury medication. I will only take ibuprofen for headaches.

Hopefully this will keep me conscious for a long time. For the time after that, I wear a heartbeat monitor, like with fitness.

I live in Switzerland, where passive euthanasia is allowed. If I have an observer with me, he is not punishable.

I hope I can answer some open questions that scare many users here.

Suggestions for this attempt are welcome.

 

[Aap]

If you want to make a difference, contact exit international. They will send you a secure phone to enable it to be video monitored and use the data in their books. (Note, you will probably have people state that you are not old enough, so exit won't agree. I will state that the only way you will know is to try and ask, especially because you are Swiss).

that is likely the single best thing you can do.

I will throw out a generic statement that their have been cases of predators posting on This site. I would encourage both you AND anyone considering "observing" to keep this in mind and refrain from any in person meetings. I don't care how much you speak with anyone online. Someone intent on harming you can easily fool you online, no matter how much talking or sharing is done. Neither of you will know for sure until it is too late.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

If you want to make a difference, contact exit international. They will send you a secure phone to enable it to be video monitored and use the data in their books. (Note, you will probably have people state that you are not old enough, so exit won't agree. I will state that the only way you will know is to try and ask, especially because you are Swiss).

that is likely the single best thing you can do.

I will throw out a generic statement that their have been cases of predators posting on This site. I would encourage both you AND anyone considering "observing" to keep this in mind and refrain from any in person meetings. I don't care how much you speak with anyone online. Someone intent on harming you can easily fool you online, no matter how much talking or sharing is done. Neither of you will know for sure until it is too late.

Thank you for the tip with Exit International. I will report to Exit and clarify that.

I knew the person who will be there as an observer before I found this forum. I trust her 100%.
But you are absolutely right that there are guaranteed to be many members here who are only here as predators.
Caution is always important and trust must first be earned.

I just hope that I can use it to answer open questions for my successors who, otherwise fearful, will have to go this last way.

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

I plan my suicide with SN at the end of September.

In order to at least give a little meaning to my life, I will document my death as well as possible with SN.

That means I will not be alone and the whole process will be documented. I will stick to the short form of Stan's guide, without luxury medication. I will only take ibuprofen for headaches.

Hopefully this will keep me conscious for a long time. For the time after that, I wear a heartbeat monitor, like with fitness.

I live in Switzerland, where passive euthanasia is allowed. If I have an observer with me, he is not punishable.

I hope I can answer some open questions that scare many users here.

Suggestions for this attempt are welcome.

That's a really good initiative.

The observer can take over and write here when you loose consciousnes. Right ?

He can write in detail what's happening to you. It would be invaluable.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

That's a really good initiative.

The observer can take over and write here when you loose consciousnes. Right ?

He can write in detail what's happening to you. It would be invaluable.

Right, that's my intention.

And if necessary, I can also describe my condition to him if I previously roll on the floor in cramps and therefore can no longer write.

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

Right, that's my intention.

And if necessary, I can also describe my condition to him if I roll on the floor in cramps and therefore can no longer write.

Right. The only last point I can put forward we need to verify the authenticity of your death.

Maybe a picture of your blue skinned hand with a piece of paper that states your nick on SS? I wonder if that's okay with SS staff.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

Right. The only last point I can put forward we need to verify the authenticity of your death.

Maybe a picture of your blue skinned hand with a piece of paper that states your nick on SS? I wonder if that's okay with SS staff.

I will find a way to prove authenticity.

 

[Blue LIPS]

Perhaps, but it does put rather a damper on the common belief that it's quick and relatively peaceful and has a high success rate even after potentially vomiting.

It's not "peaceful" otherwise people wouldn't call 911 in a lot of cases due to panic from physical symptoms. That'll cause your SI to kick in even more, if it wasn't already when swallowed. The counteractive drugs for those symptoms will help, but only so much I would imagine. I'd rather OD on Propranolol than mess with SN tbh, as I take it regularly and have accidentally doubled a dose while drinking (oops) and felt so sleepy and fucked up. Had me wondering if I closed my eyes if they would open again... but they did lol.

I think some "guides" were thought up from some guy who did some research, thought "it should work" and people believing in it so much ended up being the confidence needed for the creator of said "guide" to follow through with it. (Yes I know it was Stan and Jean4 stood by him). Note that he also set up a way to hang himself "just in case" ... doesn't sound like confidence to me in his magical method.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

It's not "peaceful" otherwise people wouldn't call 911 in a lot of cases due to panic from physical symptoms. That'll cause your SI to kick in even more, if it wasn't already when swallowed. The counteractive drugs for those symptoms will help, but only so much I would imagine. I'd rather OD on Propranolol than mess with SN tbh, as I take it regularly and have accidentally doubled a dose while drinking (oops) and felt so sleepy and fucked up. Had me wondering if I closed my eyes if they would open again... but they did lol.

I think some "guides" were thought up from some guy who did some research, thought "it should work" and people believing in it so much ended up being the confidence needed for the creator of said "guide" to follow through with it. (Yes I know it was Stan and Jean4 stood by him). Note that he also set up a way to hang himself "just in case" ... doesn't sound like confidence to me in his magical method.

Therefore I will also prepare a replacement plan that will be used if necessary.

 

[Aap]

The act of suicide itself is not peaceful for the VAST majority. It is about as stressful a situation imaginable. There will be panic in the vast majority of people regardless of method. Your conclusion that it isn't peaceful because people panic and call 911 is flawed. People OD on opiates and call for help all the time

the vast majority of the cases people cite as "non peaceful" are due to agonal breathing. This is a normal and natural part of dying and occurs after one is insensate and unconscious. This type of breathing is present with oral N (edited out of the exit videos), F, H, propofol, and in the executions involving versed/dilaudid.

I would absolutely call someone slipping into unconsciousness and then exhibiting agonal breathing as passing "peacefully in sleep." Dying is often ugly looking and sounds bad. It's a fact of nature. ODing on propranolol risks significant long term injury if a failure. While I don't agree with every word written in stan's guide and view some items as unneeded or might suggest others, these are all minor quibbles over completely unimportant amd irrelevant issues. overall you will not find a better written or thought Out guide. It hits all of the major points and gets them correct

 

[Blue LIPS]

Therefore I will also prepare a replacement plan that will be used if necessary.

I mean, I don't blame you.. but if you were the proprietor that wouldn't "look good" in terms of confidence for others on this forum in my opinion. Just thought I would throw my thought out there since most seem to think SN = N.

 

[Aap]

Anyone has the right to change their mind, and, for me, NOT having a backup would simply be poor planning. Nothing is 100%. Failing to plan is planning to fail.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

I mean, I don't blame you.. but if you were the proprietor that wouldn't "look good" in terms of confidence for others on this forum in my opinion. Just thought I would throw my thought out there since most seem to think SN = N.

Sorry, but I don't understand this post.
My English is not good enough, so I always have to work with translation.

Can you reformulate your contribution, please?

By the way, by SN I mean sodium nitrite

 

[Blue LIPS]

Sorry, but I don't understand this post.
My English is not good enough, so I always have to work with translation.

Can you reformulate your contribution, please?

By the way, by SN I mean sodium nitrite

I was just saying I wouldn't want people thinking SN = N basically. You're fine, at least you can mostly understand English. Most Americans know "American!" Lol.

 

[Living sucks]

Right. The only last point I can put forward we need to verify the authenticity of your death.

Maybe a picture of your blue skinned hand with a piece of paper that states your nick on SS? I wonder if that's okay with SS staff.

I will find a way to prove authenticity.

It is not required and quite honest it's disgusting to ask.

If you have someone who cares that much about you to be with you during death, they love you in life and maybe you have reasons to find living worthwhile? I dont know why you want or need to ctb so I am not in judgement.. but i do believe it should be the absolute last option.

Take care of you

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

It is not required and quite honest it's disgusting to ask.

If you have someone who cares that much about you to be with you during death, they love you in life and maybe you have reasons to find living worthwhile? I dont know why you want or need to ctb so I am not in judgement.. but i do believe it should be the absolute last option.

Take care of you

IMHO the question is free to ask. I asked respectfully. Killing yourself with SN and documenating it througholy will ease the minds of thousands of people going with SN. It's a heroic act. Unless it's very painful then maybe several suicides can be prevented which is also in some peopels eyes a good thing.

I see only benefits here. He'll be dead so, with all respect, he won't have to care about the ethics around it.


Even if I have narcisstic personality disorder I can emphatize with people that hate life and want to end it badly, and so they can help their comrades in the same situation by easing their minds and going through with it peacefully.