Reincarnation Soul Trap

[offbalance]

How do you know if you've connected with someone in a past life? How did you know that they're your twin flame? I think that my crush might be my twin flame or soulmate, but he stopped talking to me over a year ago. I still don't know why

Feeling of deja vu and spiritual activation + past life flashbacks the moment we met. Strong magnetic chemistry that's unlike anything I've ever experienced, even though logically I should have moved on a long time ago. (He had his flaws while he was here on Earth) inconsistencies in his actions (he did stuff that indicated he never moved on from me, even though in surface 3D reality he said he did) and telepathy and things I predicted happening which was confirmed after he died. And also telepathy the morning after he died (he CTBed. I got a telepathic message but dismissed it as bullshit until I found out later that day, even though I never suspected he would because he seemed the more stable out of the two of us.) synchronicities that continue to this day, when I'm not totally blocking him out. I haven't totally forgiven him for things he's done to me but when we're both open to it I can still feel him here with me.

 

[untothedepths]

Whoever made the soul trap design deserves a kick in the ass. (Any deity or whatever that crafted it.)

 

[Smaragdine]

Some psychics claim they can do past life regressions . You can book a session with them . I've done them for fun but I don't take it as an absolute truth

I thought about searching for a person offering that. How is the experience? I'm a little bit scared that it could be a "bad trip" like with psychedelics, but I don't know if that fear is justified at all. And why is a second person needed aka is there the possibility to learn that yourself (like everybody can learn lucid dreaming or astral projection)?

Whoever made the soul trap design deserves a kick in the ass. (Any deity or whatever that crafted it.)

Way too gracious :)

 

[divinemistress36]

I thought about searching for a person offering that. How is the experience? I'm a little bit scared that it could be a "bad trip" like with psychedelics, but I don't know if that fear is justified at all. And why is a second person needed aka is there the possibility to learn that yourself (like everybody can learn lucid dreaming or astral projection)?

Way too gracious :)

You can look for them on Etsy and who has good reviews . Of course you don't know if it's true but it's fun anyways. I wish I could learn astral projection

 

[Lucet]

"That there is this intelligent fabric of reality, which transfers the spiritual essence of a person from body to body over potentially thousands of incarnations, that this process has an (ideal) destination (nirvana), but that the nature of the intelligence/force behind that process is never addressed.."

Exactly this. I too have been wondering. I am not very sure about this, but what I know is that Buddha was silent on "God" topic. He neither confirmed nor denied. Please do correct me if I am wrong. I did find few queries addressed in Hinduism, where this driving force is God and everything happening to us is our own karma being reflected. But then I never understood, why the cycle began? I do understand why it keeps continuing though. If we are all souls and are capable of eternal existence and have always existed before physical organic life developed , before this solar system came into existence, then why create all this and why not continue with the same state of eternal existence that was in place .

Depends on what God you're referring to. For those who follow the Soul Trap/Prison Planet theory, the general consensus is that we're all fractals of "Source", which in a sense is the God energy in which all things are made of.

The idea is a false myth perpetuated initially by some conspiracy theorists, there is no soul trap people who have regular controlled out of body experiences have testified that there is no such thing it's just gloomy nonsense related to the lizard people theory lol reptilians are controlling the earth and there is a soul trap yeah don't think so xD again all the legit ppl who can go out of body have completely refuted this.

No. The Prison Planet theory mainly stemmed from Gnosticism, and I wouldn't be surprised if even earlier groups of people were lead to believe something similar. I'm not sure how many OBE reports you've read, but there are NUMEROUS experiencers who have said to have experienced negative experiences, being chastised by ET's of different sorts, demons, entities charadeing as loved ones, and more. It's definitely not all sunshine and rainbows. I've also noticed that people with more positive OBE experience seem to "go with the flow" a bit more and don't even bother to question the nature of the entities that they're conversing with.

But a loving afterlife would make sense with the life on earth? All the people having NDEs experiencing that "loving" afterlife, begging to not be send back in their body and all the pain - and being send back anyway?

Yeah, it seems like we don't have much choice in the matter when it comes to NDE's. Seems like if we are still somehow able to be revived, we cannot remain on the other side despite our wishes to do so. It's fucked up.


Ngl, I'm a bit relived to see talk of the Soul Trap here on this forum. As someone who's been meaning to CTB for several years now, I can honestly say this theory is what has primarily forced me to delay my exit in attempt to learn more about what I may POTENTIALLY be dealing with when I pass. Because I really do not want to come back to this fucking place, ever again.

 

[doneforlife]

Depends on what God you're referring to. For those who follow the Soul Trap/Prison Planet theory, the general consensus is that we're all fractals of "Source", which in a sense is the God energy in which all things are made of.


No. The Prison Planet theory mainly stemmed from Gnosticism, and I wouldn't be surprised if even earlier groups of people were lead to believe something similar. I'm not sure how many OBE reports you've read, but there are NUMEROUS experiencers who have said to have experienced negative experiences, being chastised by ET's of different sorts, demons, entities charadeing as loved ones, and more. It's definitely not all sunshine and rainbows. I've also noticed that people with more positive OBE experience seem to "go with the flow" a bit more and don't even bother to question the nature of the entities that they're conversing with.



Yeah, it seems like we don't have much choice in the matter when it comes to NDE's. Seems like if we are still somehow able to be revived, we cannot remain on the other side despite our wishes to do so. It's fucked up.


Ngl, I'm a bit relived to see talk of the Soul Trap here on this forum. As someone who's been meaning to CTB for several years now, I can honestly say this theory is what has primarily forced me to delay my exit in attempt to learn more about what I may POTENTIALLY be dealing with when I pass. Because I really do not want to come back to this fucking place, ever again.

There are so many theories. But , it is a bit difficult for me to digest the fact that life was accidental. All the things falling in order to give way to life and all these was one big coincidence...that's a bit far fetched. I am in a way convinced that we are facing our own doings. It isn't a trap. The key to exit has been explained by many great souls. My doubt was regards to the initiation of this cycle. A few theories suggest that we ourselves wanted to be here. So we are here.

 

[tvo]

I like to believe we get to choose whether we get to incarnate or not, I know some others who believe that as well, but our human self doesn't necessarily have the will of our higher self, that actually wants to incarnate. I just hope wherever I incarnate next, it's easier. I like to think we all go into a place of love and prepare for the next life, being stronger the next time around. That's what I'm hoping for

Based on my own research on spirituality and metaphysics... Our higher selves choose to incarnate in this harsh dimensions even though the lower egoic self is in a state of deep forgetfulness and often does not remember choosing to incarnate. I've also learned about "soul contracts", apparently our higher selves chose these traumatic experiences and all perpetrators are just role players.

I have had what is known as NDE and I experienced unspeakable love (literally defies description) which was accompanied by an intense euphoria, by comparison, this dimension we are in right now is extreme hell. I just want to go back where I was in my NDE.
QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique) allows people to access a part of themselves that holds all the answers. Some people call this the higher self or super-consciousness.

It was developed by Dolores Cannon. I have been reading her books since 2013, they are mind-blowing (to say the least). I intend to have my own QHHT session.

But a loving afterlife would make sense with the life on earth? All the people having NDEs experiencing that "loving" afterlife, begging to not be send back in their body and all the pain - and being send back anyway?

Yes, that was my experience. I begged, I pleaded not to be sent back here, but I was sent back and not even provided with a reason why it is important for me to return back here

 

[Lucet]

There are so many theories. But , it is a bit difficult for me to digest the fact that life was accidental. All the things falling in order to give way to life and all these was one big coincidence...that's a bit far fetched. I am in a way convinced that we are facing our own doings. It isn't a trap. The key to exit has been explained by many great souls. My doubt was regards to the initiation of this cycle. A few theories suggest that we ourselves wanted to be here. So we are here.

Yeah, many theories indeed. But after stifling through so many, this is the one that has me stumped as, despite how outlandish it does sound, in a way rings true to me in many ways.

I think at the end of the day it was always our choice to incarnate here, whether at the start of this all, or even now (this current incarnation). I think the main talking point when it comes to our own choice of being incarnated is whether or not foul play was at hand during the process.

Based on my own research on spirituality and metaphysics... Our higher selves choose to incarnate in this harsh dimensions even though the lower egoic self is in a state of deep forgetfulness and often does not remember choosing to incarnate. I've also learned about "soul contracts", apparently our higher selves chose these traumatic experiences and all perpetrators are just role players.

I have had what is known as NDE and I experienced unspeakable love (literally defies description) which was accompanied by an intense euphoria, by comparison, this dimension we are in right now is extreme hell. I just want to go back where I was in my NDE.
QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique) allows people to access a part of themselves that holds all the answers. Some people call this the higher self or super-consciousness.

It was developed by Dolores Cannon. I have been reading her books since 2013, they are mind-blowing (to say the least). I intend to have my own QHHT session.

Yes, that was my experience. I begged, I pleaded not to be sent back here, but I was sent back and not even provided with a reason why it is important for me to return back here

This is where things get tricky, and initially this is what I believed to be the most likely possibility as well; but then I started to hear about how traumatic life experiences, or at least repeated ones, can damage a soul. It's really hard to form a concrete opinion because I could not possibly know what my "higher self" desires without being in some sort of altered state of consciousness. There are many other theories and factors which have lead me to believe that maybe reincarnating is no longer healthy as it once was for the soul, but I don't wanna stray too far off into woo-woo land for this forum.

I think when it comes to your experience, and other NDE's, we're forced to carry out the remainder of the contract or "script" until natural bodily death. Meaning if you do get into some sort of accident, and your physical body is still able to be resuscitated, you will be brought back no matter what (obviously right, I mean they're called NDE's for a reason, lol.) It's almost like a game save where even if you die, you have no other choice but to load back up the game and pick up where you left off, the only other alternative being deleting the save (in this case, self deletion/suicide), thus terminating that contract/script.

 

[tvo]

Yeah, many theories indeed. But after stifling through so many, this is the one that has me stumped as, despite how outlandish it does sound, in a way rings true to me in many ways.

I think at the end of the day it was always our choice to incarnate here, whether at the start of this all, or even now (this current incarnation). I think the main talking point when it comes to our own choice of being incarnated is whether or not foul play was at hand during the process.



This is where things get tricky, and initially this is what I believed to be the most likely possibility as well; but then I started to hear about how traumatic life experiences, or at least repeated ones, can damage a soul. It's really hard to form a concrete opinion because I could not possibly know what my "higher self" desires without being in some sort of altered state of consciousness. There are many other theories and factors which have lead me to believe that maybe reincarnating is no longer healthy as it once was for the soul, but I don't wanna stray too far off into woo-woo land for this forum.

I think when it comes to your experience, and other NDE's, we're forced to carry out the remainder of the contract or "script" until natural bodily death. Meaning if you do get into some sort of accident, and your physical body is still able to be resuscitated, you will be brought back no matter what (obviously right, I mean they're called NDE's for a reason, lol.) It's almost like a game save where even if you die, you have no other choice but to load back up the game and pick up where you left off, the only other alternative being deleting the save (in this case, self deletion/suicide), thus terminating that contract/script.

This is frustrating, keep coming back here. So the decision of the higher self supercedes that of lower self? I research extensively on this NDE, afterlife, spirit, dimensions (1D to 12D)... I've practiced meditation for several years, worked with healing crystals, practiced yoga, became vegan etc. the one thing I have not done is to have a QHHT session and have the practitioner bring in my higher self to answer all my questions.

The one thing that appears to be consistent with my research on metaphysics and spirituality is that, we are close to a transformation on Earth, a shift in collective consciousness, an ascension and many beings here at this time wanted to incarnate here on to Earth and be part of this big transformation.

I also learned that we create and provide ourselves with a number of exit points during our pre-birth plan for the next incarnation. When the exit point comes we may choose to take but decide to change our minds and return back here if or take we may it if there's no anything to gain from being here and continue to explore other experiences in other dimensions, those who knew you here on Earth will perceive you as being dead.

I was involved in a fatal car crash back in 2017, I guess that was my pre-birth planned exit point, but for some reason I didn't take it (that other guy did though). I'm in a lot of physical pain and continual mental anguish and don't get what's there to gain by me still being here.

 

[Lucet]

This is frustrating, keep coming back here. So the decision of the higher self supercedes that of lower self? I research extensively on this NDE, afterlife, spirit, dimensions (1D to 12D)... I've practiced meditation for several years, worked with healing crystals, practiced yoga, became vegan etc. the one thing I have not done is to have a QHHT session and have the practitioner bring in my higher self to answer all my questions.

The one thing that appears to be consistent with my research on metaphysics and spirituality is that, we are close to a transformation on Earth, a shift in collective consciousness, an ascension and many beings here at this time wanted to incarnate here on to Earth and be part of this big transformation.

I also learned that we create and provide ourselves with a number of exit points during our pre-birth plan for the next incarnation. When the exit point comes we may choose to take but decide to change our minds and return back here if or take we may it if there's no anything to gain from being here and continue to explore other experiences in other dimensions, those who knew you here on Earth will perceive you as being dead.

I was involved in a fatal car crash back in 2017, I guess that was my pre-birth planned exit point, but for some reason I didn't take it (that other guy did though). I'm in a lot of physical pain and continual mental anguish and don't get what's there to gain by me still being here.

Lol, frustrated keeping coming back here as in this thread or are you talking about this reality? Sorry to bother you if it's the former. I'm pretty invested in discussing this theory at the moment so I could go on all day.

But yes, based on what I've heard and read when it comes to the higher self and reincarnation plans, it basically supersedes that of the lower self. I'm not saying I'm convinced that is the case for all of us, however, but it would only make sense that our higher self made the decision for our first incarnation before giving form to a lower level of consciousness for lack of better wording.

Research is all good and well, it's how most of us learn about these possibilities without having to divulge into alerted states of consciousness to get answers. But what I'm more curious about is what you have personally come to experience/learn regarding our purpose here during the various practices you've mentioned. Did they provide any answers or insight? If so, do you mind sharing?

I personally began researching back in 2014, and I've heard it all. Practitioners, teachers, psychics, etc have all claimed that a "shift" was to come and it's always said that we came to be a part of all that - but nothing revolutionary has really come to pass. We're quickly approaching a time where we will be transitioned even deeper into this physical reality as tech and AI in general are ramping at a seemingly alarming rate. From what I personally see, it seems like we're moving AWAY from a potential spiritual shift, if we were even approaching one in the first place. I think there's a lot of dis-info out there when it comes to all of this stuff, and I've come to believe we've been led astray which is why I'm more interested in knowing what sort of information/experiences individuals are getting out of their own personal experience rather than research.

Exit points I've heard of, but the red flag for your experience is that, if that crash was in fact meant to be an exit point for you, why wasn't it honored? It's these inconsistences that have lead me to believe that perhaps some sort of manipulation is at play.

 

[doneforlife]

Lol, frustrated keeping coming back here as in this thread or are you talking about this reality? Sorry to bother you if it's the former. I'm pretty invested in discussing this theory at the moment so I could go on all day.

But yes, based on what I've heard and read when it comes to the higher self and reincarnation plans, it basically supersedes that of the lower self. I'm not saying I'm convinced that is the case for all of us, however, but it would only make sense that our higher self made the decision for our first incarnation before giving form to a lower level of consciousness for lack of better wording.

Research is all good and well, it's how most of us learn about these possibilities without having to divulge into alerted states of consciousness to get answers. But what I'm more curious about is what you have personally come to experience/learn regarding our purpose here during the various practices you've mentioned. Did they provide any answers or insight? If so, do you mind sharing?

I personally began researching back in 2014, and I've heard it all. Practitioners, teachers, psychics, etc have all claimed that a "shift" was to come and it's always said that we came to be a part of all that - but nothing revolutionary has really come to pass. We're quickly approaching a time where we will be transitioned even deeper into this physical reality as tech and AI in general are ramping at a seemingly alarming rate. From what I personally see, it seems like we're moving AWAY from a potential spiritual shift, if we were even approaching one in the first place. I think there's a lot of dis-info out there when it comes to all of this stuff, and I've come to believe we've been led astray which is why I'm more interested in knowing what sort of information/experiences individuals are getting out of their own personal experience rather than research.

Exit points I've heard of, but the red flag for your experience is that, if that crash was in fact meant to be an exit point for you, why wasn't it honored? It's these inconsistences that have lead me to believe that perhaps some sort of manipulation is at play.

From an exchange of words with a religious person, this is what he had to say :

At the beginning, we are all one with God. The soul(our consciousness ) is a part of greater consciousness. Imagine like droplets that form an ocean. There is no higher self of me or you. So when we are one with God , we either want to continue to be a part of God or we want to descend from a higher plane to this earthly plane. The soul's desire to be a part of this planet comes from the distractions this planet offers a.k.a Pleasures. So basically we are lured. Why...I don't know! But that's about it. Once we enter , we get into the loop of reincarnation until we have shed all desires , attachments , which is basically when we can get an exit called Nirvana , moksha , enlightenment etc.

 

[deadinsidex2]

Depends on what God you're referring to. For those who follow the Soul Trap/Prison Planet theory, the general consensus is that we're all fractals of "Source", which in a sense is the God energy in which all things are made of.


No. The Prison Planet theory mainly stemmed from Gnosticism, and I wouldn't be surprised if even earlier groups of people were lead to believe something similar. I'm not sure how many OBE reports you've read, but there are NUMEROUS experiencers who have said to have experienced negative experiences, being chastised by ET's of different sorts, demons, entities charadeing as loved ones, and more. It's definitely not all sunshine and rainbows. I've also noticed that people with more positive OBE experience seem to "go with the flow" a bit more and don't even bother to question the nature of the entities that they're conversing with.



Yeah, it seems like we don't have much choice in the matter when it comes to NDE's. Seems like if we are still somehow able to be revived, we cannot remain on the other side despite our wishes to do so. It's fucked up.


Ngl, I'm a bit relived to see talk of the Soul Trap here on this forum. As someone who's been meaning to CTB for several years now, I can honestly say this theory is what has primarily forced me to delay my exit in attempt to learn more about what I may POTENTIALLY be dealing with when I pass. Because I really do not want to come back to this fucking place, ever again.

Gnosticism is basic religious dogma that believes the whole world is created by a demagogue for the purpose of suffering nd such if u wanna base your ideas on that well gud luck. Nd no It's not about sunshine and rainbows it's abt an objective reality u can't rely on nde accounts or wht regulars say most accounts out there are not at all credible they're lucid dream type experiences or whatever most ppl don't have the ability to go out of body it's a gift U need to look at credible reference points like the works of robert monroe nd robert bruce who've introduced the world (popularized) to the term astral projection nd funded lab research on conciousness etc credible legit sources of ppl who've been tested nd come from a respectable background. Most stories on YouTube are just clickbait nothing to take seriously nd if this idea of soul trap was true it means we're fucked on earth nd on the other side wht do u think would happen if it was actually true? Think ur the special one who's gonna escape the trap lol it means there's no fucking hope for anybody excuse my french but it's the most doomy gloomy thing I've ever heard how does anyone trick themselves into being empowered by an idea like that, but like i said there are far better sources for documentation on these subjects out there they just need research nd proper discernment.

 

[Lucet]

Gnosticism is basic religious dogma that believes the whole world is created by a demagogue for the purpose of suffering nd such if u wanna base your ideas on that well gud luck. Nd no It's not about sunshine and rainbows it's abt an objective reality u can't rely on nde accounts or wht regulars say most accounts out there are not at all credible they're lucid dream type experiences or whatever most ppl don't have the ability to go out of body it's a gift U need to look at credible reference points like the works of robert monroe nd robert bruce who've introduced the world (popularized) to the term astral projection nd funded lab research on conciousness etc credible legit sources of ppl who've been tested nd come from a respectable background. Most stories on YouTube are just clickbait nothing to take seriously nd if this idea of soul trap was true it means we're fucked on earth nd on the other side wht do u think would happen if it was actually true? Think ur the special one who's gonna escape the trap lol it means there's no fucking hope for anybody excuse my french but it's the most doomy gloomy thing I've ever heard how does anyone trick themselves into being empowered by an idea like that, but like i said there are far better sources for documentation on these subjects out there they just need research nd proper discernment.

I wouldn't really call it dogma. It's really just another take on the creation story of the reality in which we currently reside in. I wouldn't consider myself a Gnostic by any means, but there are some things that still stick out to me about the lore, especially when it comes to other peoples experiencers with entities on the other side.

I'm well aware that many of the NDE accounts online are likely hogwash and clickbait, but I also believe that there are many that are not. For every video of an NDE report you find from someone probably looking to cop a quick view, there are probably a dozen more of written reports (not books) that just get swept under the radar since they're not on the larger social media.

I'm familiar with Robert Monroe and his work, I've watched a few of his presentations and I'm trying to get back into his meditation tapes as a means to further my practice. I have HEARD that he once wrote about this planet being a loosh farm, but I haven't come across anything by him yet that can confirm that. From my understanding, based on his teachings, we're pretty much all stuck due to our own nature and there's no outside force intervening in anyway. I understand the Prison Planet theory is completely doomer, and feels even hopeless, but even so, that doesn't mean we can completely rule it out because it makes us feel like shit. I think if it DOES in fact exist, at least being aware that there may be foul play, somehow, somewhere, definitely gives us an upper hand rather than just going into the death process blind.

You mentioned far better sources and research being done to look into, and by all means, I'd love for you to point me in the direction towards more material to dive into. There's a lot of data to sift through, and while yes there's a lot of deception out there as well, it's better not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[casandranova29]

Do you really think we choose to reincarnate? Buddhists believe that we're forced to

Hindus and Buddhists both believe that we are forced to reincarnate until we get liberation/salvation.
Actually Buddhism has opted most of it's concepts from Hinduism.

 

[deadinsidex2]

I wouldn't really call it dogma. It's really just another take on the creation story of the reality in which we currently reside in. I wouldn't consider myself a Gnostic by any means, but there are some things that still stick out to me about the lore, especially when it comes to other peoples experiencers with entities on the other side.

I'm well aware that many of the NDE accounts online are likely hogwash and clickbait, but I also believe that there are many that are not. For every video of an NDE report you find from someone probably looking to cop a quick view, there are probably a dozen more of written reports (not books) that just get swept under the radar since they're not on the larger social media.

I'm familiar with Robert Monroe and his work, I've watched a few of his presentations and I'm trying to get back into his meditation tapes as a means to further my practice. I have HEARD that he once wrote about this planet being a loosh farm, but I haven't come across anything by him yet that can confirm that. From my understanding, based on his teachings, we're pretty much all stuck due to our own nature and there's no outside force intervening in anyway. I understand the Prison Planet theory is completely doomer, and feels even hopeless, but even so, that doesn't mean we can completely rule it out because it makes us feel like shit. I think if it DOES in fact exist, at least being aware that there may be foul play, somehow, somewhere, definitely gives us an upper hand rather than just going into the death process blind.

You mentioned far better sources and research being done to look into, and by all means, I'd love for you to point me in the direction towards more material to dive into. There's a lot of data to sift through, and while yes there's a lot of deception out there as well, it's better not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Robert monroe wrote about the loosh farm yes but it was interpreted out of context by some into a malevolent idea even he at first was shocked by it just cuz he wasn't thinking straight wht the idea is actually abt is that there are much higher dimensional beings out there that can feed on human experience these beings are the type to have the ability of creating worlds if they decide to nd they just learn from feeding on the human emotional experience in some higher realm of the astral they don't interfere with us nor do they effect us at all in anyway the earth domane was created to be challenging for the souls who incarnate to learn from experience that's it. Nd also Robert sort of invented the term prison planet who he heard from an entity friend who said it to describe earth wht he meant by it was that the earth experience was more constraining nd not easy to leave relative to other places realms nd planets there is no telepathy or direct intuitive connection nd things like that which make earth a much more limiting place than others that's why the entity used that term which would be later employed by conspiracy folks in a different context, I don't refute the soul trap thing just cuz it would make me feel shity but cuz it doesn't make sense there is enough suffering on earth already i think there are ways to explain the sense nd purpose of it all. Robert has many experiences that illustrate that for example he visits an alternative earth timeline where he inhabits his own body double there in a physical manner nd sees in that timeline how things are different nd the technology is different as they took a different developmental path, basically all the stuff that can make one think hard abt the nature of existence. One of the works i would recommend for example is Christian sundberg's pre birth experience nd his book a walk in the physical it explains some of the reasons why we choose to incarnate nd choose the suffering route. also the youtube channel Astralclub is absolutely a great reference

 

[tvo]

Lol, frustrated keeping coming back here as in this thread or are you talking about this reality? Sorry to bother you if it's the former. I'm pretty invested in discussing this theory at the moment so I could go on all day.

But yes, based on what I've heard and read when it comes to the higher self and reincarnation plans, it basically supersedes that of the lower self. I'm not saying I'm convinced that is the case for all of us, however, but it would only make sense that our higher self made the decision for our first incarnation before giving form to a lower level of consciousness for lack of better wording.

Research is all good and well, it's how most of us learn about these possibilities without having to divulge into alerted states of consciousness to get answers. But what I'm more curious about is what you have personally come to experience/learn regarding our purpose here during the various practices you've mentioned. Did they provide any answers or insight? If so, do you mind sharing?

I personally began researching back in 2014, and I've heard it all. Practitioners, teachers, psychics, etc have all claimed that a "shift" was to come and it's always said that we came to be a part of all that - but nothing revolutionary has really come to pass. We're quickly approaching a time where we will be transitioned even deeper into this physical reality as tech and AI in general are ramping at a seemingly alarming rate. From what I personally see, it seems like we're moving AWAY from a potential spiritual shift, if we were even approaching one in the first place. I think there's a lot of dis-info out there when it comes to all of this stuff, and I've come to believe we've been led astray which is why I'm more interested in knowing what sort of information/experiences individuals are getting out of their own personal experience rather than research.

Exit points I've heard of, but the red flag for your experience is that, if that crash was in fact meant to be an exit point for you, why wasn't it honored? It's these inconsistences that have lead me to believe that perhaps some sort of manipulation is at play.

Oh no, frustrated I keep coming back to this reality. "but it would only make sense that our higher self made the decision for our first incarnation before giving form to a lower level of conscious", yes this makes sense (as unpleasant as it is for me). Excuse my grammar.

"But what I'm more curious about is what you have personally come to experience/learn regarding our purpose here during the various practices you've mentioned. Did they provide any answers or insight? If so, do you mind sharing?", yes, research is one thing, experience, however, is a whole different matter. Well I have definitely experienced something beyond the physical that allowed me to an awareness that is not possible in human form/lower self, an expanded awareness. When I died in the year 2011 I momentarily left my human body as well as this entire physical reality, yeah I was no longer physical and burdened by the heaviness of the physical body, the was also no more physical pain of any kind. My spirit body was very very light and could travel across different Galaxies and dimensions at insane speeds. I quickly found myself at this reality were I was one with the whole entire reality, the experience of Oneness (unlike here were we experience the illusion of separation). In this reality I was not doing or having any thoughts (100% thoughtless state), it was the experience of being and knowing e.g. I knew with absolute certainty that all is just one thing and in a state of perfection whilst being that oneness and perfection, I am convinced this what most call "Source" or even higher self.

I also knew the this current reality of physicality is just a an illusion, a short dream that I had waken up from. Time (past or future) was an illusion and so was physicality/matter. Also, in addition to no longer feeling physical pain, I also no longer had the experience of the dense emotions ( fear, anxiety, hate etc.) that come with being in a physical body. I was so calm and okay with all the traumas I had experienced back on Earth. But unfortunately I had to return back to my Earth form/lower self and this comes with forgetting and extreme limitations (compared to my higher self).

Apparently the purpose is for Source (our higher selve) to know all of it by experiencing all of it through us (good or bad). Source is the totality of everything in experience and none existence, it is All-that-is. From my higher perspective self in spirit, this current Earth reality was definitely extremely challenging dimensions to exist in.

"I think there's a lot of dis-info out there when it comes to all of this stuff", definitely, hence why I only take what resonates with my own frequency vibration of truth (discernment).

"if that crash was in fact meant to be an exit point for you, why wasn't it honored?", I am also wondering this, cause I remember in 2011 (not the 2017 car crash) I was forced to return back here despite my blatant refusal to not be returned back here. Nothing here interestes me anymore, I just wish to move on to other experiences in other realities (I now know exist).

 

[JezebelDuLioncourt]

Based on my own research on spirituality and metaphysics... Our higher selves choose to incarnate in this harsh dimensions even though the lower egoic self is in a state of deep forgetfulness and often does not remember choosing to incarnate. I've also learned about "soul contracts", apparently our higher selves chose these traumatic experiences and all perpetrators are just role players.

I have had what is known as NDE and I experienced unspeakable love (literally defies description) which was accompanied by an intense euphoria, by comparison, this dimension we are in right now is extreme hell. I just want to go back where I was in my NDE.
QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique) allows people to access a part of themselves that holds all the answers. Some people call this the higher self or super-consciousness.

It was developed by Dolores Cannon. I have been reading her books since 2013, they are mind-blowing (to say the least). I intend to have my own QHHT session.

Yes, that was my experience. I begged, I pleaded not to be sent back here, but I was sent back and not even provided with a reason why it is important for me to return back here

I believe in the afterlife. I've read a lot about NDE's. Most of the individuals who experienced it lost their fear of death. But in one of your posts, you said, "that's how f****ng terrifying this dying thing is for me." May I ask why?

I'm not questioning the veracity of your experience nor am I challenging your fear of dying. I simply wish to learn why some NDE survivors would feel differently from what the majority would say.

 

[tvo]

We are all unique having unique experiences. My fear is not from the unknown of what comes next after dying but the dying process (both the physical and psychological pain of it). I was in a horrific car crash several years ago, I was semi conscious the entire time and that experience was not pleasant at all. My fear also comes from 2 failed CTB's. I desire to exit this reality peacefully in my sleep or instantly (e.g Gunshot to the head). A slow painful death is what I fear, I believe most (if not all) NDE survivors fear this.