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Seiba

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Hay would you mind sharing the site that you ordered the AE from please? You can also check the website for reliability, by that I mean you check who owns the domain, weather the IP address is being hidden or spoofed, and who the DNS server for the web page is, and from that you will know weather the site is bogus, or if it is a legit place selling what they claim to be selling
Sourcing is against the rules of the forum
 
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There is a list of alternatives to using METO, It is advised to test any anti-e before you take it though anyway

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there haven't been any reports of any drastic circumstances in regards to a person taking an anti-e and the people from EXIT international(the PPH) have experienced a very high number of people that have CTB. the side effects that can happen with stuff are mentioned because it wouldn't be good practice to not mention things that happen in VERY RARE cases. Its like the same thing for the COVID jab, we are told it can cause blood clots, but this is in VERY RARE cases and the realisation is that most people will be perfectly fine. I mean even cannabis can be used as an anti-e!! obviously many of these drugs are prescribed on a daily basis to MILLIONS of patients for certain treatments, if the side effects were a really common occurrence they would be available on prescription.

I might add, alot of members and cases have been reported of people not using an anti-e at all. I did see a post where a member even advised not testing the anti-e, the reason being the side effects mentioned DO NOT take effect until after a certain amount of time, you will be long gone before that happens. For instance there have been cases of people taking the N and passing out while drinking it!!! I'll try and find the post for you!

EDIT i found the post about METO

If one is concerned about EPS, the single dose method without testing is all that should be utilized. EPS are usually or often irreversible and can develop 24-72 hours after a single dose though more often after repeated doses. EPS are rare, though with the general level of anxiety of most users here, the advice to test meto is the worst advice that could be followed.

Its in this thread https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/questions-about-metoclopramide.66861/#post-1274926

the person has CLEARLY done their research, thanks god people post things that they know about, we'd be lost without them wouldn't we!!!!
Good post, forgot about EPS. I was leaning towards stat dose already for my personal case when I get SN and for those who are worried about side effects. Thank you for sharing.
 
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Good post, forgot about EPS. I was leaning towards stat dose already for my personal case when I get SN and for those who are worried about side effects. Thank you for sharing.

EPS doesn't kick in for 24hrs, so by avoiding the 48hr regime and doing the stat dose you eliminate the side effect. The pph only mentions it for if someone was using the 48hr regime. I'm glad this was posted about, its meant i now know something i didn't know before and can share it with others. Its actually a really good find IMO

I myself was always going to use a stat dose. I wasn't going to use any when my method was SN but i've changed to N now. If you think about it logically if you are taking something so close to the time you take SN or N the chances of 'side effects' kicking in would be minimal anyway if at all. its not like SN or N aren't quick to render you unconscious where you won't have a clue what side affects are happening anyway!!!!
 
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EPS doesn't kick in for 24hrs, so by avoiding the 48hr regime and doing the stat dose you eliminate the side effect. The pph only mentions it for if someone was using the 48hr regime. I'm glad this was posted about, its meant i now know something i didn't know before and can share it with others. Its actually a really good find IMO
Yeah, it's great information.
 
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Yes I think stat dose without test might be best if you are nervous. Reading the PPH it actually says Dramamine crosses into the brain, and Dompridone doesn't so am now more confused as to which is milder. Find the AE thing confusing so appreciate the point raised about not necessarily using one at all.
 
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Yes I think stat dose without test might be best if you are nervous. Reading the PPH it actually says Dramamine crosses into the brain, and Dompridone doesn't so am now more confused as to which is milder. Find the AE thing confusing so appreciate the point raised about not necessarily using one at all.

Domperidone does not cross the blood-brain barrier as readily as metoclopramide; therefore it lacks the extrapyramidal side effects associated with metoclopramide. Domperidone still does exert effects on areas that lie outside the blood-brain barrier, including the chemoreceptor trigger zone (nausea, vomiting). Hence domperidone maintains antinauseant effects.
 
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Yeah, it's great information.

I guess that one more rumour thats been quashed lol.thing is with side effects, especially serious ones is they only happen in very rare circumstances. these companies have to mention them or they would be getting sued. most medicines mention every side effete you ca think off to cover their arses!!!
 
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I guess that one more rumour thats been quashed lol.thing is with side effects, especially serious ones is they


It contains an ingredient

Meclizine works in your brain. It works by blocking chemicals that control nausea, vomiting, and balance

I personally wouldn't use one at all if i was doing SN, as its taken to stop vomiting. but its clear from the most(i say that as there may be 1 case) people are sick. exactly the reason a 2nd and even 3rd dose is recommended. but there are cases of people CTB with as little as 3g ingested, so a very small amount in comparison to what you actually drink. The key to SN is not being found and having a 2nd dose, all the other medicines are optional, but not required to CTB
Yeah his method is N, but having a second dose prepared is always good.
 
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I guess that one more rumour thats been quashed lol.thing is with side effects, especially serious ones is they


It contains an ingredient

Meclizine works in your brain. It works by blocking chemicals that control nausea, vomiting, and balance

I personally wouldn't use one at all if i was doing SN, as its taken to stop vomiting. but its clear from the most(i say that as there may be 1 case) people are sick. exactly the reason a 2nd and even 3rd dose is recommended. but there are cases of people CTB with as little as 3g ingested, so a very small amount in comparison to what you actually drink. The key to SN is not being found and having a 2nd dose, all the other medicines are optional, but not required to CTB
Thanks it would be N for me and was trying to establish if Domperidone or Dramamine w/Meclizine would be the milder AE to take given previous damage, or not to bother with one at all?
 
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Yeah his method is N, but having a second dose prepared is always good.

well there's lots of people who have CTB without using anti e with N aswell. Its obviously depends on circumstances. It all depends on what a person wants to do themselves. I'm going to do anti-e only for the fact i don't want to throw it up, as i can't then 2nd dose my N( i was speaking to another member who had 3 bottles and was going to use 1 1'2 in case they needed to redone, good idea i though!!!).
Thanks it would be N for me and was trying to establish if Domperidone or Dramamine w/Meclizine would be the milder AE to take given previous damage, or not to bother with one at all?

well there's 6 different anti'e listed in the PPH, all have different 'possible' side effects .chances of a person not being able to use one of the mentioned is pretty much 0!!!! . i use that term loosely though, as it has been mentioned the side effects can take a long time to kick in (you will have CTB way beforehand) and the info will have been written for members who choose the 48hr regime. So if people use the stat dose, they won't have any issues!!

It actually mentions cannabis and doesn't mention any side effects!!!
 
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well there's lots of people who have CTB without using anti e with N aswell. Its obviously depends on circumstances. It all depends on what a person wants to do themselves. I'm going to do anti-e only for the fact i don't want to throw it up, as i can't then 2nd dose my N( i was speaking to another member who had 3 bottles and was going to use 1 1'2 in case they needed to redone, good idea i though!!!).


well there's 6 different anti'e listed in the PPH, all have different 'possible' side effects .chances of a person not being able to use one of the mentioned is pretty much 0!!!! . i use that term loosely though, as it has been mentioned the side effects can take a long time to kick in (you will have CTB way beforehand) and the info will have been written for members who choose the 48hr regime. So if people use the stat dose, they won't have any issues!!

It actually mentions cannabis and doesn't mention any side effects!!!
Ok for those with AE worries it seems like no test / stat dose might be the way to go (or just no AE) - thank you.
 
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I'm scared

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I am allergic to penicillin,have had bad experiences with other antibiotics but never a problem with metoclopramide.I have a phobia of vomiting and have been known to take 3 daily with no adverse side effects.I do know some people mainly when given by IV have extreme anxiety,Is phenergan an option? You can build up the anti nausea dose or if you can get hold of the anti psychotic Largactil it not only calms you down but also has a very good anti nausea effect.I am more scared of vomiting than death.
 
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I got Ondansetron instead of Meto. I think whatever you decide on the N will take over and dominate.
 
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I feel the same, I worry about an anti-emetic as i have some damage from previous antidepressant use and could react badly to it. I've definitely considered the idea of N without an ant-emetic as it's one less thing to react badly to. I've heard cases of people doing this, but it doesn't get discussed much. The other option is to use a milder anti-emetic than Meto I guess which are available.
Have you gotten any more info on the antiemetic? I'm actually doing this because of akathisia and it can be caused by reglan. I don't want to use it
 
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Have you seen one single medication wiyhout frightening list of side effects? I dont think so
 
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markmahomes

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Have you seen one single medication wiyhout frightening list of side effects? I dont think so
You don't know what I've been through with meds partner. Pharma damage u why I'm ending my life
 
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Have you seen one single medication wiyhout frightening list of side effects? I dont think so

Why Are There Such Long Lists of Side Effects?​

If you've ever watched a prescription drug commercial on television or looked at a drug ad in a magazine, you know that there are long lists of side effects. Some of the adverse reactions are really scary. Why do drug makers do that?

We used to think that pharmaceutical companies reluctantly included long lists of side effects because the FDA made them do it. That is no doubt true, but there may be a more self-serving reason.

Telling patients about lots of nasty adverse reactions might provide a legal defense in case of litigation. And people tend to zone out after about the tenth or eleventh side effect anyway.
 
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