Recording My SN Suicide

[EBEN30]

Hi all,

So when it's my time to ctb I want to record my SN suicide, I don't know if or when I will do it, I've had the SN for awhile but I'm not in any rush to ctb BUT I'm comforted knowing I now have the option should things ever get too much.

After doing my research on SN, I've noticed that Exit International have monitored the death of 6 people via SN but were interested in people videoing and documenting their death by SN.

I want to leave something and give something back to the community. I'm not a member of Exit, I'm only a member on these forums here.

What would be the best method to record my death if and when I choose to do so, so that others can hopefully see that SN is a peaceful way to go.

I've thought of potentially live streaming it but wouldn't want to risk someone calling the police and intervening and messing it all up.

Having help or family/friends on board is not an option, so I'm looking at ways I could potentially do this and give something back to the pro-choice community that has helped me so much.

As I said, this isn't a promise or anything I'm going to do it anytime soon but since I have the means to do so it could be any day if things get too much.

 

[Lotus1818]

I think allot of members would be interested in this. Just see what feels right for you. There should never be pressure to do something like this.

 

[Sunset Limited]

This is a great idea for the community! I was thinking of doing the same thing. My method was SN, but I changed it. But I can still do it.

SN is a good option for assisted suicide. If combined with a general anesthetic (thiopental sodium, ketamine, propofol or opioids). But it's a very slow process. In fact, there are so many combinations! I guess it can't be used because it depends on the permission of pharmaceutical companies or the government. For example propofol + rocuronium is 100% lethal, fast and 100% peaceful. Still not an option for euthanasia. I do not know the reason.

 

[voyager]

I've thought of potentially live streaming it but wouldn't want to risk someone calling the police and intervening and messing it all up.

Yeah, that's definitely not worth it. We all want reasurrance, but you shouldn't put yourself at risk just to comfort others. Live streaming might also draw some unwanted attention, because as touching as the GB threads are, they have the potential for monitoring and intervention. Imagine the process taking an hour or more, some people are bound to ask why no one did anything. So my suggestion would be to get in touch with EI when the time is right and stream it to them privately and if you feel comfortable let them share it afterwards.

 

[Sunset Limited]

I was thinking of reporting by writing instead of live. Updating my first message every 2 minutes. Like that:

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[Lotus1818]

I was thinking of reporting by writing instead of live. Updating my first message every 2 minutes. Like that:

00:00

Heart rate:
Vomiting:
Other symptoms:

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i mean if you are comfortable you can always be in a discord call with someone and record it.

 

[EBEN30]

Yeah, that's definitely not worth it. We all want reasurrance, but you shouldn't put yourself at risk just to comfort others. Live streaming might also draw some unwanted attention, because as touching as the GB threads are, they have the potential for monitoring and intervention. Imagine the process taking an hour or more, some people are bound to ask why no one did anything. So my suggestion would be to get in touch with EI when the time is right and stream it to them privately and if you feel comfortable let them share it afterwards.

I'll probably do this, I don't want it to come across as I'm doing it for attention or anything so the more private it is initially the better. After I'm gone I'm hoping the video could be shared to show people that it is peaceful but I wouldn't want Exit International putting it behind a pay wall, I'd want it to be public.

The purpose isn't for attention it's so that if people choose this as their exit plan, they can see that it is indeed peaceful (hopefully).

 

[Sunset Limited]

i mean if you are comfortable you can always be in a discord call with someone and record it.

Im using google translate. My english is disaster

 

[Lotus1818]

discord is a program. i mean that you could always do a private video call with someone.

 

[Sunset Limited]

discord is a program. i mean that you could always do a private video call with someone.

This is good idea.

 

[Thatdude]

What would be the best method to record

First off, I can't OK you to off yourself but I can answer this question for the most part. The first and biggest thing you need to know is what platform you want to have it go to. This is something I honestly can't help you with since I don't know of any platform that will allow it to stay up. Like FaceBook and YouTube will take the video/stream down pretty quickly since it will get reported quickly.

Once you figure out the platform, you can do it one of a few methods. If you want to do a diary, then that makes things easier. Many platforms allow you to upload now and make the video public later. Your other option for if you are really away from the computer is by using the same thing cheaters in MMO games use. There is a thousand of them, but you're looking for some type of click bot. Something where you can record your mouse button and location, and then play it back later. In MMO games this is handy for when you have to grind. But on here it is handy for doing something while you're not at the computer. (I actually did this myself to "swipe right" on dating sites a long time ago. Within 72 hours I messaged everyone on the site.) Many click bots you can set it up where it only runs 1 time. Following this, you can write a script to trigger the click bot at a given time.

You can use a free program called OBS to record everything. It actually isn't as plug and play as most would like. But it will get the job done. So make sure you play with it for a bit to understand how the click bot should interact with things. You might want to make every motion and click delay to give the software, browser, etc to do it's thing.

Again, I hope you find a reason to not off yourself. But it is an interesting problem to solve. Like in theory you could use this as some type of security software for a small space. Where every so often it uploads the content to some place like YouTube for cloud storage.

NOTE it is possible to write a script to call someone and use a tts.

The purpose isn't for attention it's so that if people choose this as their exit plan, they can see that it is indeed peaceful

With OBS you can do this if you can get your computer to pick it up. But hook up things like heart monitors, o2, and things like that. I'm still iffy if death is peaceful. Like the outside it looks like you're sleeping. But IDK. Your brain can be in a state of hell, but you're body can't show it because it psychically can't.
It maybe possible to see what is going on with your brain with https://www.emotiv.com/epoc/

Medically, it might also help since I doubt there is much material on this. With that in mind I'm not a medical person.

 

[howard]

I was thinking of reporting by writing instead of live. Updating my first message every 2 minutes. Like that:

00:00

Heart rate:
Vomiting:
Other symptoms:

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00:02

Heart rate:
Vomiting:
Other symptoms:

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00:04

Heart rate:
Vomiting:
Other symptoms:

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00:06

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Other symptoms:

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I hope you dont have to report that, better, quite calm, feel dizzy, bye bye!

 

[Malletboy]

I was thinking of doing the exact same thing! I just want the end of my life to do just one more good thing, especially for such a helpful crowd like this.

My idea was to set up a private, unlisted stream on YouTube. Give access to a few members from the community to view it (trusted members) who could then record the stream and use it as a point of reference for others in one of the resource threads.

 

[dioxide]

You can program automated uploads on linux using a webcam and some script programming, structured like this:

Launch script:

1) Start video recording
2) Record for 30/60 minutes
3) Stop recording
4) Savefile: "myvideo.mp4"
5) Upload to webspace/personal webserver with public permission on directory: "myvideo.mp4"

Of course several test in anticipation, to check if the system works properly.

A bunch of people having that web address, will easily find the video there and may get and redistrubute video around private/public spaces, for documentation.

Many of this systems exists for sourvellance, probably there are some software ready for this, some research may help.

This is just a schermatics, it require to be programmed with proper tools/script languages/plugins.

 

[voyager]

I'll probably do this, I don't want it to come across as I'm doing it for attention or anything so the more private it is initially the better. After I'm gone I'm hoping the video could be shared to show people that it is peaceful but I wouldn't want Exit International putting it behind a pay wall, I'd want it to be public.

The purpose isn't for attention it's so that if people choose this as their exit plan, they can see that it is indeed peaceful (hopefully).

Yeah, I don't think anyone here thought you were doing it for that reason, but even if someone does it still provides a resource. That girl who used the bed sheets a month ago will save plenty of people from agony, but she paid a hefty price for it.

I see your point on EI and I know some members feel he's taking advantage of the situation. Personally I haven't formed an opinion on them yet. I only mentioned them because you did, so please don't think I'm encouraging you to turn to them. I'd actually prefer the methods the others have suggested and was mainly concerned with heat/privacy issues and that you don't get jeopardized.

As for peaceful, I hope so, too and I'm certainly curious, but I also believe we'll only discover this for sure once we our ourselves go under, whatever the method. But from the outside it really does seem very effective.

 

[dioxide]

Yeah, I don't think anyone here thought you were doing it for that reason, but even if someone does it still provides a resource. That girl who used the bed sheets a month ago will save plenty of people from agony, but she paid a hefty price for it.

May i ask some more about this?

 

[voyager]

Sure, there was a girl about a month ago who hanged herself. She seemed to know what she was doing and was extremely cool about it, but she used the wrong material and kept drifting in and out of consciousness. It was quite ugly.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/new-hanging-video.25443/

 

[jgm63]

How about something like :

Agree with someone in advance to help upload the video after the event.
To protect them legally, it could be worded vaguely, eg "I need your help uploading a video. I'll email you the details"
Set it up as a live stream, get the URL, and send that to the helper in a delayed email.
This avoids the legal issue of that person not doing anything to help, since they only found out about it *after* it happened.
The person that receives the email could download the video (in case the livestream service deletes it), then upload it somewhere for safekeeping, then share it here on SS.

Obviously, you'll need to use a live stream that keeps the video for playback later, and that allows the video to be downloaded.

I suppose one risk would be if the livestream service closely monitors content, and deletes the video before the helper has the chance to download it.
Perhaps a "private" service can be used.

Alternatively, perhaps you can simply record video directly to a shared google drive folder that the helper also has access to ?

You would obviously do a test run of the whole process to ensure the video is recorded correctly, and can be downloaded by the helper, etc....

Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. Things may seem hard, but with the right help they can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.

 

[Lotus1818]

anyone can always upload it to anonfile com on the wiki there was one video of professor p his livestreams.

 

[EBEN30]

anyone can always upload it to anonfile com on the wiki there was one video of professor p his livestreams.

The suicide wiki? I've not seen that, professor P? what was the full name?

 

[pane]

The suicide wiki? I've not seen that, professor P? what was the full name?

I'll take a guess and say he's referring to Phil Nitschke, a former medical doctor who started the Exit International organization.

 

[EBEN30]

I'll take a guess and say he's referring to Phil Nitschke, a former medical doctor who started the Exit International organization.

Oh, OK, I've misunderstood their post.

I thought they were saying a suicide was live streamed by Professor P, I think they mean he just uses anon files to share his uploads?

 

[pane]

With OBS you can do this if you can get your computer to pick it up. But hook up things like heart monitors, o2, and things like that. I'm still iffy if death is peaceful. Like the outside it looks like you're sleeping. But IDK. Your brain can be in a state of hell, but you're body can't show it because it psychically can't.
It maybe possible to see what is going on with your brain with https://www.emotiv.com/epoc/

Medically, it might also help since I doubt there is much material on this. With that in mind I'm not a medical person.

This just occurred to me as well. Merely watching a video of someone dying after ingesting sodium nitrite would only tell a small part of the story. Ideally if possible, the person would be hooked up to one of those hospital monitoring devices that tracks vital signs including respiration, blood pressure, EEG and heart rate. That would provide a great deal of concrete information about how long it took for death to happen, although it would only be one example and difficult to draw broad conclusions about committing suicide via sodium nitrite.

Oh, OK, I've misunderstood their post.

I thought they were saying a suicide was live streamed by Professor P, I think they mean he just uses anon files to share his uploads?

Yes, that's probably what the other poster meant. Nitschke does livestreams from time to time discussing various suicide-related topics. I'm sure he has never or would ever participate in livestreaming a suicide with all the scrutiny he gets from media/government/law enforcement.

 

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[Science Is Scary]

Russel Ogden is a researcher in the Vancouver area who has attended a few suicides. He publishes papers on them. I don't know how to contact him, if he would be interested or the risks and benefits of trying to get involved with researchers.

 

[Thatdude]

hooked up to one of those hospital monitoring devices that tracks vital signs including respiration, blood pressure, EEG and heart rate.

Most of that you can get with modern workout stuff. Like the heart rate and what not. But thing I linked can show your brain (note I never used it, but I want to).

But that is something that gets me with a lot of "painless methods". To our best guess, yes there is some. But I don't think I ever came across anything actively doing even 1 of the scans, let alone all of them. Like a spike in heart activity could be pain. So while the body physically can't show it. The mind might still feel it.


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BTW i just notice on the prior post I made it say psychically and not physically. Stupid auto correct.....
Anyways, I just wanted to point that out since I can't edit that post.

 

[Moonicide]

Like others here, I would like to record my ctb for educational purposes. But it gets tricky due to people being able to ruin your ctb and call the cops. So having someone you trust record it as you ctb would be best and then they can upload it later.