R2D ReBreather finally released?

[gus.nixon]

the last moments with scuba setup resemble the pig that is shown on youtube and a bit disorienting.

Umm, is this a good disorienting or a bad disorienting?

 

[profoundexperience]

The sarco is 100% obsolete with the scuba mask setup. The sarco is only a novelty now.

I don't think it's the end-all-be-all... but I think having a device that seems "professional" (NOT DIY)... that's fast... that doesn't require any illegal drugs... that doesn't need any medical/doctor support...

Could go a long way in normalizing suicide (of course it will unfortunately begin only with those society deems "worthy" of suicide).

Sarco may not be the solution... but we need more "slick" (non DIY) devices/methods... to make suicides more acceptable/mainstream.

I was hoping debreather is a little better than scuba setup, as in slower acting because the last moments

My method is inert gas (exit bag)... and I definitely relate to what you're saying! I would like just a little more time than that method provides... in order to "mentally settle down" into the fact/realization I'm now dying... time to "come to terms" with it.

is this a good disorienting or a bad disorienting?

"Good" if you want to die super-fast... as in pretty suddenly the "lights just go out" with very little (sometimes no) prior notice.

 

[Goodbye710]

Umm, is this a good disorienting or a bad disorienting?

Take a gun and shoot next to your ear. It's shocking for about 30 seconds. Hitting the brain stem I don't believe is instant like people say. Not a bad way to go but I think there are misconceptions and I found nitrogen to be similar misconception.

Put a nitrogen scuba mask on and it happens within 30 seconds. I heard loud voices like a TV. Then I guess you'd say twitching or convulsions identical to the pig at 1:30 on the video. Others may have less twitching however based on other reports. But expect some degree of twitching. At same time as mild uncontrolled convulsions/twitching, lungs and or throat closes while simulatenous try to breath but you can't. You probably won't realize most of this at the time and register this all as being disoriented but what you'll notice the most at the time is hearing voices. Maybe childhood memories for others.

It's not a bad way to go. Don't get me wrong. But it's not like anesthesia where you're here one moment and gone the next.

The pig is a good representation of what to expect. The pig is disoriented, twitching and throat closes. Like my experience. The pig convulsing as he falls is not because he's falling and can't stand anymore but because of convulsions. Hopefully the rebreather will be slower and thus less disorienting.
The scuba mask is very professional setup. I'm very proud of it. But I may chose SN over it if I had a choice. Not sure.

 

[gus.nixon]

I heard loud voices like a TV.

Do you remember what the voices were saying?

 

[Goodbye710]

Do you remember what the voices were saying?

I couldn't make out the words. Very loud. Nothing bad. I was not scared. It sounded just like the TV but loud.

Another person said he heard or heard and saw (I forget) a childhood memory.

 

[profoundexperience]

The pig is a good representation of what to expect.

The video is restricted: Is this the one with German speaking?

If so, the pig is STANDING-up... and, of course, there is no graceful way to transition from standing to lying-down as one quickly loses consciousness.

In the end, we're killing our body — which is "designed" to keep going — so there will always be some "engineering trade-offs" (twitching for some in this case).

Still, the rapidity with which the pig loses consciousness & dies is impressive.

The scuba mask is very professional setup. Doesn't look DIY one bit. I'm very proud of it.

Sorry, you should be proud of your work! Sorry, I wasn't trying to say it was, in any way, inferior.

By "DIY" I only meant that you had to do some work/research to put it all together (e.g., we all follow the insights of others like LetzteAusfahrt).

For some people, it's easier to get something that has everything together, researched and tested, professionally packaged, and ready to go...

 

[Goodbye710]

The video is restricted: Is this the one with German speaking?

If so, the pig is STANDING-up... and, of course, there is no graceful way to transition from standing to lying-down as one quickly loses consciousness.

In the end, we're killing our body — which is "designed" to keep going — so there will always be some "engineering trade-offs" (twitching for some in this case).

Still, the rapidity with which the pig loses consciousness & dies is impressive.

Sorry, you should be proud of your work! Sorry, I wasn't trying to say it was, in any way, inferior.

By "DIY" I only meant that you had to do some work/research to put it all together (e.g., we all follow the insights of others like LetzteAusfahrt).

For some people, it's easier to get something that has everything together, researched and tested, professionally packaged, and ready to go...

Yeah, that's the same video. The pig when he falls is actually convulsing in my experience. I highly doubt the pig knows or is trying to lie down on purpose. His body is just reacting probably from the throat or throat and lungs closing while trying to breath but can't so his body just naturally does that. That was all my experience but at the time too disoriented to know anything that's going on. It's not a bad way to go but between SN and the scuba setup I think it would all depend on how I feel at the time.


Oh sorry about that. Yeah, I know what you meant about DIY. About putting something together. Being too hard for people to put together. But then it's also a benefit to keep people from doing something impulsive in my opinion. The scuba setup, It looks like a really nice setup. I also did a 3D printed Korean Collar before all this and that also looks really nice too but unfortunately couldn't get it to work. Not reliable.

FWIW, I'm not suicidal but one day my heart will give out and I wanted something peaceful. Just wanting a peaceful passing.

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

I'm waiting for some testimonies of this method. It's good if there's a documented, observed CTB attempt with this.
190$ + shipping seems affordable for most people.

 

[Dizzy_Dreams]

I'm waiting for some testimonies of this method. It's good if there's a documented, observed CTB attempt with this.
190$ + shipping seems affordable for most people.

Same!!!!!

 

[the_final_countdown]

Has anybody even ever received one of these devices?

It seems like a scam. Can't exactly charge the Visa people about it either.

"They sold me a device to end my life but it never arrived."

 

[Greenberg]

The sarco is 100% obsolete with the scuba mask setup. The sarco is only a novelty now.
I own a scuba setup (same as LetzteAusfahrt) and cost is $1,300 and I've made a dry run with it months ago. I understand why LetzteAusfahrt went with SN. I was hoping debreather is a little better than scuba setup, as in slower acting because the last moments with scuba setup resemble the pig that is shown on youtube and a bit disorienting.

I would even go as far as saying that the R2D Rebreather II is also obsolete!

Here is a lesson in history...

The original debreather concept (Debreather) is an adaptation of the SCUBA debreather but "powered" entirely by the user's via breathing, i.e., no compressed gas. In fact, the Debreather led to the eventual development of a more effective inert gas asphyxiation method: the Exit Bag. So, the Debreather came before the Exit Bag and not before.

According to the research report by R. Ogden, 2010 (my Jan 23rd blog entry): "The debreather appears effective in bringing death through oxygen depletion, BUT it also demands third-party assistance...[and as such] is no longer in use." The report further highlights an attempt to improve the Debreather with powered circulation (Spartacus III) which required the user to don a plastic bag. That device was never commercialized with the advent of the use of compressed gas for CBT.

In short, the R2D Rebreather II is an attempt to reincarnate a failed device.

 

[AbsoluteNothingness]

I dont 'know' if that 'thing' is actually even 'real'/'legit' or whatever the fuck those 'words' fcking mean or not nor if it actually 'works' or it doesnt but anyways I fucking 'envy' or whatever the goddamn fuck that 'word'/'verb' fucking means those who can buy it and have it (or SN and/or basically any other 'reliable'/'guaranteed' method/way out in general) so fucking damn fucking much. [****]How much I fucking wish or whatever the fuck that 'word'/'verb' fcking means I had the fucking 'money' that 'thing' fucking costs and that i could fucking 'buy' it. (if it actually 'worked' or whatever the damn fuck that even means but 'according' to what its 'said' in 'posts' 'above', it 'most' 'likely' and FUCKING UNFORTUNATELY fucking doesnt and is just another 'scam' or whatever the fuck that 'word' even fucking means, what a goddamn fucking crap then. i FUCKING wish it fcking actually 'worked' and that it was as 'quick' and 'reliable' as it 'claims' or whatever the fuck that 'verb'/'word' means to be in the 'video'. [and that i could fucking actually 'bUy'/have it, which I FUCKING UNFORTUNATELY wouldnt be fucking 'aBlE' to, even if that 'thing' actually was 'cheaper' or whatever the fuck that means and it 'worked'/was 'legit' or whatever the damn fuck that 'word'/'adjective' fucking means too, because i DoNt 'WoRk' [and DONT fcking wAnT tO/DONT wAnT tO wAnT tO never have had never at fucking damn all ever fcking will no fcking 'matter' fcking what lmfao] or whatever the damn fuck that fucking godd bullshit trash garbage crap fcking even means/is aNd DoNt HaVe the fucking 'mOnEy' for it. fuck what a goddamn fucking garbage bullshit trash crap rubbish damn shit or whatever the fuck all those 'words' even fucking mean that I fcking literally just fcking have no damn fucking choice but to fcking make the fucking 'eFfOrT' shit to fcking 'wOrK'/hAvE 'mOnEy' and all that fcking goddamn bullshit garbage crap shit if i want to have a reliable way out ["WAY OUT" TO ETERNAL ABSOLUTE COMPLETE LITERAL TOTAL INFINITE ENDLESS LIMITLESS PLAIN PURE NOTHINGNESS/NONEXISTENCE!!!!!!!!!!]/method and FUCKING FINALLY BE 'ABLE' TO FUCKING FINALLY NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL because all the methods that are 'reliable'/'guaranteed' [and 'relatively' or whatever the fuck that means 'quick' and 'painless'. i dont give a damn shit if it has some 'pain' 'involved' or whatever the fuck all those 'words' even fucking mean BUT IT HAS TO BE RELIABLE AND QUICK AT LEAST, I DONT FCKING WANT TO FCKING 'RISK' BEING FCKING 'FOUND' AND BEING FCKING 'SENT' TO A FCKING 'HOSPITAL'/'PSYCH WARD' AND FCKING 'WATCHED' {ON 'sUiCiDe WaTcH'} AT ALL] and that have a 'high'/very 'high' 'success' 'rate', fcking 'cost' 'money' or whatever the damn fuck that fcking crap even fucking means/is, because they fucking 'require' 'materials'/'preparation' and all that fucking bullshit garbage crap shit and *some are extremely 'risky' to 'buy'/have and are very 'expensive' (for example N, 'opiates'/'opioids' or whatever the fuck that even fucking means/is and however the fuck the 'words' are fucking written like F, H etc) 'unless' its for example SN which isnt as 'expensive' or whatever the dn fuck that 'word'/'adjective' fcking even means at all as N but it fcking 'requires' so many fucking 'steps'/'preparation' or whatever the fuck that fucking means like for example the fcking 'fasting' [[**i just cant do that in my 'parent's' 'house' at all without being 'suspicious'/'raising' any 'suspicion', i dont 'lIvE' 'alone'. I cant 'say' that there arent any 'reasons' at all why i dont 'eat', they wOuLdNt 'bElIeVe' or whatever the goddamn fuck shit that fucking means and would fcking ask me "wHy"/fOr A rEaSoN anyways since for every fucking one there fucking has to fucking be a fucking goddamn 'reason' for every fucking thing and 'obviously' i WOULDNT 'tell' them the 'truth' so theyd 'assume' whatever the fuck or 'directly' just not 'let' me not fucking 'eat' anything at all. its just 'impossible' to fucking do that fucking 'rEqUiReD'/'nEeDeD' 'sTeP' shit for the fucking sn method 'here' in this 'house' because im not alone, if the 'hours' kept 'passing by' and i kept not 'eating' anything theyd 'eventually' 'suspect' a lot and any fucking ways i wouldnt be 'allowed' or whatever the fuck that even fucking means to not 'eat' anything at all. and theyd 'probably' 'start' making 'questions' like "bUt WhY YoU oUt oF a SuDdEn DoNt EaT aBsOlUtElY aNyThInG? wHaT hApPeNs To YoU/wHaTs 'wRoNg' wItH yOu?" And or whatever other fcking crap bullshit like that. the fucking 'method' requires 8 'hours' (some have even 'said' 24 hours) of the fucking 'fast' 'step'/'requirement' shit for the sn to get 'absorbed' much much 'faster'/for DEATH to happen 'faster'. jesus fucking damn christ why the fuck its so fucking damn hard to FUCKING FINALLY NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ABSOLUTE ALL NEVER AT ALL FOR FUCKS FUCKING SAKE WHY???????!!!!!!!!!!!! **Theyd 'suspect' a lot]] 'rEqUiReMeNt' shit and all that fcking bullshit if i want to 'ensure' that it'll completely/totally 'kill' me and if i want it to be faster (because 'apparently' if i dont 'fast' the 'process' until DEATH/NOTHINGNESS/NONEXISTENCE is much much 'longer'/'slower' and all that fucking crap) to not fcking 'risk' getting fcking 'caught' because of the 'noise' of 'vomiting' and or because of taking so much fucking 'long' to fucking finally entirely kill me and be out of the fucking 'possibility' of being fucking 'found' and FUCKING 'UNFORTUNATELY' "sAvEd" and all that fcking goddamn crap, *and fucking 'require' a lot of fucking 'materials' to fucking have/'buy', a lot of fucking 'preparation', a lot of fucking 'tImE' 'fRaMe' to not 'risk' being fucking 'found at all, a lot of fucking 'planning', 'eFfOrT', some 'even' fucking 'require' 'tEcHnIcAl'/'cHeMiStRy' or whatever the fuck those 'words' mean 'sKiLlS'/'kNoWlEdGe' or whatever the fuck that fucking garbage crap even fcking means too (ewwww why the damn fuck do i have to fcking want to have all that fcking goddamn shit lmfao) for it to 'work' and not fucking 'risk' 'brain damage' (exit bag, Nitrogen, inert gas etc) (i wouldnt give a damn shit if i had "brain damage" or whatever the fuck that even fcking means lmfao that wouldnt ""aFfEcT"'/""wOrRy"' "me" at all, i couldnt give any less of a fucking shit about any fucking 'brain'/'mind' in general or whatever the fuck that shit even fcking is/means lmfao. but i want to 'avoid' that to not 'traumatize'/'shock'/'hurt' or whatever the fuck those 'words'/'verbs' mean my 'parents'/'family') and or blah blah blah whatever other fucking garbage trash bullshit crap shit like that in general. its so FUCKING DAMN FUCKING 'FRUSTRATING' all the fucking shit that i have no goddamn fuck to fucking 'dO' {*} [[[fucking 'tHiNk'/fucking 'uSe' the fucking piece of FCKING 'meat' called "bRaIn", 'move'/'use' the fucking flesh/carcass/meat suit, make fucking 'eFfOrTs' or whatever the fuck that fcking means with the fcking 'pRePaRaTiON', 'pLaNnInG', 'sTePs', being 'cArEfUl' to not get fcking 'caught' at all, dOiNg the fucking method 'wElL' 'step' by fucking 'step' and with all the fucking shit that 'requires' to mAkE sUrE that it wont fucking 'fail' or whatever the fuck that means, make fucking sure that i have fucking 'enough' 'time' for the attempt etc. its so damn fucking frustrating all the fucking shit that id have to fucking 'dO' jfc. i fucking wish i could just 'jump' but there arent any 'tall' 'buildings' 'here' at all anyway, 'everything' is 'houses' and they have a very low height, its impossible to die from it, i 'guess' the 'height' from the houses is like the 'height' of a 'second' 'floor', 'maximum'. The only ""tall"" building [and it isnt 'tall' 'enough' at all to die] would be the 'hospital' but its just 'impossible' to go 'there' and 'climb' to the fucking 'roof' or whatever the fuck that even is/means. i wouldnt 'know' how to fucking 'access' to it without being 'suspicious' at all and anyways there are always 'many' 'people' 'there', and there are 'security' 'guards' or whatever the fuck that is/means at 'night' too, and well 'now' with this "covid" thing [that i couldnt give any damn fucking less of a goddamn fuck shit about and doesnt ""aFfEcT""/""wOrRy"" mE at all and NEVER will lmfao, neither any "pandemic"/"virus" nor any "lockdown"/"restrictions" or whatever the fuck all that is/means lmao] i 'guess' [i dont give a damn shit lmao] that there are more 'people' there more 'often'. so well i cant 'choose' the 'jumping' 'method' at all, there isnt anything in this 'place'/'town' or however the fuck to fucking call it that would be 'high' 'enough' for a 'guaranteed' death. and well i 'guess' that i just have no choice but to fucking 'consider' or whatever the fuck that means that my 'parents'/'siblings'/'family' or whatever the fuck all that means, would be vErY/eXtReMeLy/iMmEnSeLy/uTtErLy or whatever the fuck those 'words' even mean 'tRaUmAtIzEd'/'sHoCkEd'/'dEvAsTaTeD'/'hUrT', 'crying' a lot and blahblahblah and that theyd want a 'funeral' for me and a 'viewing' and blahblah all that crap so itd be 'better' to 'use' a lEsS 'tRaUmAtIc' or whatever tf that means way out/method so its fucking possible for them to have the fucking 'viewing' of the body without being 'so' 'shocking'/'traumatizing' for them and blahblahblah]]] {*} TO FUCKING FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET THE FUCK OUT OF|DITCH|LEAVE|GET RID OF THE FUCKING MEAT FLESH CAPSULE VESSEL CARCASS SHIT CALLED "HUMAN BODY"/"BODY" OR WHATEVER THE FUCK "HUMAN BODIES"/"BODIES" IN GENERAL ARE I JUST DONT GIVE A DAMN SHIT LMFAO AND FUCKING FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND DIE/NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL/LITERALLY JUST NOT 'BE' ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY COMPLETELY DEFINITELY UTTERLY ANYTHING ANYONE ANY DAMN FUCKING 'WAY'/'TYPE'/'FORM'/'SPECIES'/'BEING'/'GENDER'/'AGE' NOR ETCETCETC ANYWHERE ETCETCETCETC IN GENERAL AT DAMN ABSOLUTE TOTAL FUCKING ALL. how fucking much i fucking wish i could just 'disappear' instantly/immediately and fucking finally leave/get the fuck out of/get 'rid' of the fucking flesh meat capsule carcass sheath and the fucking piece of 'meat' shit called "human body"/"body" and "brain"/"mind" or whatever the fuck all that in general is/whatever the fuck its fucking called and fucking finally NOT 'exist' in general at damn fucking all/NOT 'be' absolutely literally totally completely basically ANYTHING ANYONE ANY DAMN FCKING 'WAY' ETC ANYWHERE ETCETCETCETC in general at absolute total damn fcking all WITHOUT fucking having to fucking 'mOvE' the fcking bag of flesh/sheath/shell/meat suit shit at all in absolutely any damn fcking 'way' at all in any fcking 'direction' at all any fcking type/kind of fucking 'movement' at fcking all nor fcking 'using' absolutely literally basically totally any fcking 'part' of the 'body' in general atwll etcetc, NOR fcking having to fcking 'dO'/'tHiNk' etcetcetc ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY UTTERLY ANYTHING AT ALL. NOTHING!!!!!!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE I LITERALLY JUST DONT FUCKING WANT [NEVER at all have had, NEVER at all ever fcking will NO fcking 'matter' fcking what] TO FUCKING 'DO'/'THINK' ETC [NOR literally absolutely any fcking other fcking 'action'/'verb' in general etc in general at all of any type] ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY COMPLETELY DEFINITELY UTTERLY ENTIRELY EXACTLY PRACTICALLY SIMPLY FCKING ANYTHING IN GENERAL AT ALL. A N Y T H I N G. WHATEVER/HOWEVER THE FCK IT IS/CAN BE OF ANY FCKING TYPE/KIND/WAY ETC. NO FCKING 'MATTER' WHAT THE FUCK ITS FCKING RELATED TO/ABOUT/ASSOCIATED WITH ETCETC. NOTHING AT ALL FOR FUCKS SAKE. why the goddamn shit fuck do "I" fcking have to jesus damn fcking christ
Fuck how fcking much i fcking wish I DIDNT fcking have to 'dO' that fucking garbage bullshit (to 'wOrK') and that i didnt have to fucking 'nEeD' 'mOnEy' nor any other fucking goddamn crap like that/in general and that i could FUCKING FINALLY DIE/NOT 'EXIST' AT ALL/GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE FUCKING 'FLESH' 'PRISON' 'MEAT' 'CARCASS' 'SACK' SHIT/'DISAPPEAR' ENTIRELY TOTALLY COMPLETELY DEFINITELY UTTERLY WHOLLY FULLY LITERALLY ETERNALLY FOREVER AND FUCKING FINALLY NOT "BE" ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY COMPLETELY DEFINITELY UTTERLY ENTIRELY EXACTLY PRACTICALLY WHOLLY FULLY SERIOUSLY SIMPLY JUST FUCKING ANYTHING ANYONE ANYWHERE ETCETCETC IN ABSOLUTE TOTAL LITERAL GENERAL AT DAMN FUCKING ALL without fucking having to fucking 'tHiNk'/'pLaN'/'pRePaRe'/'dO'/'rIsK' {nor absolutely any fcking other goddamn bullshit trash fuck damn shit crap//nor any other fucking 'action'/'verb' in general etcetc} ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY COMPLETELY ANYTHING IN GENERAL AT FUCKING GODDAMN FUCKING ALL. FFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKK ITS SO FUCKING DAMN GODDAMN FUCKING 'FRUSTRATING' HOW FUCKING 'HARD' IT IS TO DIE/NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL JESUS DAMN FUCKING CHRIST IT FUCKING 'GIVES' ME SO DAMN FUCKING MUCH 'IMPOTENCE', what a fucking goddamn garbage bullshit trash crap fuck damn shit that i fucking have to fucking 'uSe'/'bUy'/'hAvE' 'mAtErIaLs' or whatever the fuck that even fcking is/means and that to FUCKING FINALLY JUST LITERALLY NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL i have no goddamn fucking 'choice' but to fucking 'tHiNk' and mAkE a FUCKING 'eFfOrT' and 'risk' a lot of fucking shit like being fcking 'sent' to a fcking 'hospital'/'psych ward', being on fcking 'sUiCiDe WaTcH', not having any more 'opportunities' to ATTEMPT/TRY TO FUCKING FINALLY NOT 'EXIST' AT ALL again and all that fucking crap. and theres the fucking 'high' 'risk' of all that shit, getting fucking 'caught' and being fucking 'sent' to a fucking 'hospital'/'psych ward' and then being on fucking 'sUiCiDe WaTcH' and all that goddamn fucking bullshit garbage trash trap fuck damn shit because i dont 'lIvE' 'alone' {{AND I JUST DONT FUCKING WANT TO FUCKING 'bEcOmE'/'bE' 'iNdEpEnDeNt' or whatever the fuck that """pOsItIvE""" goddamn bullshit crap even fcking means lmfao and as if i gave a damn fuck shit if its """pOsItIvE"""/"""gOoD""" or """nEgAtIvE"""/"""bAd""" or whatever tf those 'words'/'adjectives'be even fcking mean too or however the damn fuck lmfaooooooo i just fcking couldnt give any less of a damn shit NOR LITERALLY ANY FCKING OTHER FCKING """""pOsItIvE""""" 'wAy/'aDjEcTivE'/'tRaIt'/tYpE oF 'pErSoN'/'tHiNg'/GODDAMN DAMN FCKING GARBAGE BULLSHIT TRASH CRAP FUCK DAMN SHIT LIKE THAT IN GENERAL AT ALL NOR IN GENERAL AT ALL. I LITERALLY JUST DONT FCKING WANT (NEVER AT ALL HAVE NEVER WILL AT ALL NO FCKING 'MATTER' WHAT) AT ALL TO FCKING 'wOrK' OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THAT FCKING GARBAGE TRASH CRAP BULLSHIT EVEN IS/MEANS EW LMFAO TO FCKING HAVE A GODDAMN FUCKING 'hOuSe'/'aPaRtMeNt' OR WHATEVER TF THAT EVEN FUCKING MEANS/IS NOR HAVE TO FUCKING 'WAIT' FOR 'WHO' THE DAMN FUCK 'KNOWS' HOW FCKING MANY FCKING 'YEARS' 'UNTIL' I CAN FUCKING FINALLY FCKING 'HAVE'/'BUY' THE GODDAMN FCKING 'HOUSE'/'APARTMENT' SHIT AND I CAN FUCKING FINALLY "SUCCESSFULLY"/"RELIABLY"/"SAFELY" 'ATTEMPT'/"CTB"/DIE/NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL "WITHOUT ANY" 'RISKS' AT ALL, I JUST DONT FCKING WANT TO FCKING 'wOrK' EEWW LMFAO NOR HAVE TO FCKING 'WAIT' FOR 'SO' 'MANY' FUCKING 'YEARS' FOR FUCKS SAKE I JUST FCKING DONT} FUCK ITS SO DAMN FUCKING FRUSTRATING] FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO DAMN FUCKING HARD TO FUCKING FINALLY DIE/DISAPPEAR/NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL FOR FUCKS DAMN FUCKING SAKE FUCKING WHY???????!!!!!!!!! FUCK. ITS SO DAMN FUCKING 'FRUSTRATING'!!!!!!!!!!! WHY THE DAMN FUCK IS "THIS" IN GENERAL A DAMN FUCKING 'OBLIGATION'/'OBLIGATORY' 'THING' WHY THE GODDAMN FUCK CANT I JUST LITERALLY SIMPLY TRULY JUST DONT/NOT FUCKING 'WANT' ETC/DONT WANT TO FCKING 'WANT' ETCETCBLAHBLAH ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY COMPLETELY DEFINITELY UTTERLY ANYTHING IN ABSOLUTE TOTAL LITERAL GENERAL AT DAMN GODDAMN FCKING ALL WHATEVER HOWEVER IT IS/CAN BE OF ANY TYPE/WAY ETC FROM/ABOUT/RELATED TO/OF/ASSOCIATED WITH ETCETCETC ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY COMPLETELY DEFINITELY ENTIRELY EXACTLY UTTERLY PRACTICALLY ANYTHING IN GENERAL AT DAMN FUCKING ALL ETC AND THAT'S FCKING LITERALLY IT WITHOUT ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY ANY SINGLE FCKING GODDAMN 'REASONS'/'CAUSES'/'FACTORS'/'EXPLANATIONS' NOR BLAHBLAHETCETC IN GENERAL AT ALL OF LITERALLY ANY SINGLE FCKING TYPE IN GENERAL AT DAMN ALL FOR FUCKS SAKE FUCKING WHY????????!!!!!!!!!!)

[****] I'd definitely have immediately 'done' it already if i had the fucking money* (but to fcking have 'mOnEy' or whatever the damn fuck that bullshit crap fcking is/means for that and be fucking 'aBlE' to fucking buy that thing THAT I CAN FUCKING FINALLY NOT 'EXIST' AT ALL WITH, I would [FUCKING 'UNFORTUNATELY', I FUCKING 'WISH' OR WHATEVER TF THAT MEANS I FUCKING DIDNT FCKING HAVE TO] fcking have literally no damn fcking choice but to fucking 'wOrK'/gEt A 'jOb'/hAvE a 'pRoFeSsIoN' or whatever the goddamn fuck all that fucking bullshit garbage shit trash crap [or whatever the fuck those 'words' even mean] fcking even means ew lmfao so i can fucking have the fcking 'money' that thing I CAN FUCKING FINALLY DIE/JUST LITERALLY NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT DAMN ALL WITH fucking 'costs'. and I just DONT fcking want to NOR want to want to at all for fucks sake [to 'work' or whatever the damn fuck that fcking goddamn bullshit garbage trash crap fuck damn shit fcking even means/is], NEVER have wanted NEVER at all ever fcking will NO fcking 'matter' what, NEITHER to 'wOrK' NOR 'sTuDy' nor absolutely basically totally literally ANYTHING fcking else in general at all whatever/however it is/can be etc of any type/way etc. NEITHER from/about/related to "rEsPoNsIbIlItIeS"/"dUtIeS"/"oBlIgAtIoNs"/"tAsKs"/"mUsT-dO tHiNgS" or whatever the damn fuck all that fucking garbage shit crap fcking is/means NOR from/about/related to/associated with etc "lEiSuRe"/"hObBiEs"/"eNjOyMeNt"/"eNtErtAiNmEnT"/"pLeAsUrE"/"aMuSeMeNt"/"iNtErEsTs" or whatever the goddamn fuck all that fucking damn shit crap bullshit means/is too lmfao. NOR related to/about etc absolutely literally basically totally ANYTHING else in general at all, NOTHING FOR FUCKS DAMN SAKE, N O T H I N G. I just literally fcking DONT and thats fcking it never at all have fucking wanted and NEVER at all ever fcking will NO 'matter' what for fucks sake) *and lived alone/had 'oWn' 'hOuSe'/'aPaRtMeNt' or whatever the fuck that crap even fucking means/is. Thats for sure. I wouldnt fucking 'wait' at all and would quickly fucking 'pay'/give the fucking money for it and wait for it to 'arrive' as 'soon' as possible and then immediately "ctb" ("catch" the "bus" to eternal absolute total infinite plain pure literal endless permanent complete limitless NOTHINGNESS/NONEXISTENCE/OBLIVION. NOT to ANY fucking "sOmEthIng"/"tHiNg"/"aFtErLiFe"/"lIfE aFtEr DeAtH" etc shit at all lmfao) with it as soon as i finally get it. Id fucking finally put the fucking mask on and attempt with it (to FUCKING FINALLY GET THE DAMN FUCK OUT OF/LEAVE/GET 'RID' OF THE FUCKING 'FLESH' 'SHELL'/'CARCASS'/'CAPSULE' 'PRISON' SHIT AND THE FUCKING 'PIECE' OF FUCKING 'MEAT' CALLED 'bRaIn' AND FUCKING FINALLY NOT 'EXIST' IN GENERAL AT ALL) right immediately/instantly after 'receiving'/getting it 'delivered' it without absolutely any "doubt" at all. FUCKKKKKKK i fucking wish it wasnt so damn fucking hard to FUCKING FINALLY die/NOT 'exist' in absolute general at damn fucking all/'disappear' entirely absolutely completely totally utterly definitely literally FOREVER and FUCKING FINALLY NOT 'be' absolutely literally basically totally completely ANYTHING ANYONE ANYWHERE ETCETCETC IN GENERAL AT DAMN FUCKING ALL, if it wasnt so damn fucking hard and risky and I lIvEd alone i definitely wouldnt "be" "here" (nor anywhere else in general at all) anymore/i definitely wouldve already "ctb" (to NOTHINGNESS/NONEXISTENCE, NOT to ANY fucking "sOmEtHiNg"/"tHiNg"/"aFtErLiFe"/"lIfE aFtEr DeAtH" etc shit in general AT ALL whatever/however the fuck "it" is/can be etc of any type/form/way etc, neither "physical"/"material"/"tangible" etc nor "nonphysical"/"immaterial"/"intangible" etc) and wouldve already been GONE and NOTHING at all many years ago/a very long time 'ago'. FUCK it's so damn fucking frustrating or whatever the fuck that 'word' means how fucking hard it fucking is to FUCKING FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT 'EXIST' IN ABSOLUTE GENERAL AT DAMN ALL/NOT 'EXPERIENCE'|'BE PART' OF|'PARTICIPATE' IN|'KNOW' ABOUT|'DO' ETCETCETC ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY BASICALLY TOTALLY ANYTHING IN GENERAL AT ALL, jesus damn fucking christ

 

[Choronzon]

I would even go as far as saying that the R2D Rebreather II is also obsolete!

Here is a lesson in history...

The original debreather concept (Debreather) is an adaptation of the SCUBA debreather but "powered" entirely by the user's via breathing, i.e., no compressed gas. In fact, the Debreather led to the eventual development of a more effective inert gas asphyxiation method: the Exit Bag. So, the Debreather came before the Exit Bag and not before.

According to the research report by R. Ogden, 2010 (my Jan 23rd blog entry): "The debreather appears effective in bringing death through oxygen depletion, BUT it also demands third-party assistance...[and as such] is no longer in use." The report further highlights an attempt to improve the Debreather with powered circulation (Spartacus III) which required the user to don a plastic bag. That device was never commercialized with the advent of the use of compressed gas for CBT.

In short, the R2D Rebreather II is an attempt to reincarnate a failed device.

Thanks very much for this useful info. My finger was literally on the "purchase" button and I think you have saved me from a Bad Time. I was inspired to do a little research, and found a paper on nine cases of asphyxia by a debreather setup, with eight people dying. However, as you note, all those cases had third-party assistance. Also most of them had the assistance of fairly heavy doses of a sedative.

I don't think this device would never work for unassisted suicide, but it is definitely fraught. At minimum, sedation or a supplementary exit bag would be a good idea. Fit is particularly critical, and nearly impossible to ensure with the kind of mask that's supplied, given that convulsions seem to be pretty well expected (another reason to have a sedative). A quote from the paper I'm reading: "A leak as small as a 15-gauge needle will alter substantially the gas composition inside a closed breath- ing system (see Hamilton & Eastwood, 1955)." And, a little further down:

Seven of the debreather deaths occurred in 1999, which implies that little time elapsed between invention of the apparatus and end-user delivery. It also suggests that there is quite a demand for such devices and the accompanying services. NuTech insiders say that the debreather dropped out of service when a new method of suicide was introduced—breathing inert gas, usually helium, inside a plastic bag. This method eliminated the challenges that fieldworkers encountered with the debreather facemask, forcing euthanasia instead of assisted suicide. Breathing helium or any other inert gas in a pre-filled environment can induce unconsciousness in seconds and result in sudden death.

So, this 100% backs up what @Greenberg has reported. This method was swiftly discarded after the inert gas method entered the scene.

The kit is appealing, as there are some hoops to jump through for inert gas. You need a regulator, appropriate tubing (including the barb fitting), a bag, and most intimidatingly, I think, a big ol' canister of gas. That thing is not what you call stealthy. And I think a lot of us, even if we rationally know that the dude at PraxAir will probably hand you the canister without saying much at all beyond "thanks for your business", fear somehow getting busted or at least denied at that juncture. But unfortunately I have to agree that the R2D debreather doesn't seem like a very good bet.

Edit: anyone curious to read the paper for themselves can find it at any totally legitimate scientific hub that distributes scientific papers. The DOI is 10.1080/07481181003613792 and the article is "The debreather: a report on euthanasia and suicide assistance using adapted scuba technology".

 

[Greenberg]

Thank you for your supporting and exacting research.

To offer a perspective on the size of a 15-gauge needle, I have included a photo of one below:

 

[Lost Magic]

I am still tempted to buy the ReBreather so that I have another cbt choice.

 

[job1315]

Can somone organize a thread of anyone who attempts this, like they did for SN (and maybe should also do for exit bag successes and failures)