Quick question on ligature for partial

[Everybody_yells]

So I have been trying to practice partial.

I bought myself a bdsm rope, maybe a with a thickness that of ring finger. I use my metal frame for my window which is quite sturdy, to tie one end using a snuggle hitch knot. The other end, I am using a simple slip knot.
I am trying to make myself kneel (more or less) and then use the pressure from my head's push. I am a very skinny person and also has a slender neck (if its worth mentioning).

The problem here is that everytime I try to push my head kneeling down, the rope tends to unravel a bit more thus elongating the noose area. So there is no complete coverage for my neck with the rope.
Will I need to use a carabiner or something ? Or is there some fault in my steps?

Thank you!

 

[Everybody_yells]

Bump !

please....

 

[AnestheticVoid]

Ditch the BDSM rope and get a legit rope.

 

[Bong-Hit-Transplant]

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If the rope is shifting up your neck (away from the sweet spot), then make sure the slipknot is pulled taught against your neck and try make sure you're applying pressure perpendicular to your throat.

 

[Everybody_yells]

Ditch the BDSM rope and get a legit rope.

Sorry but I thought it was the most preferred ligature as per WIki ? or did I get it wrong.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. If the rope is shifting up your neck (away from the sweet spot), then make sure the slipknot is pulled taught against your neck and try make sure you're applying pressure perpendicular to your throat.

Apologies if I was unclear, in which case I thought of making a simple sketch of what I am facing. Obviously I am no artist, so I can clarify more if you have any questions. But this is what happens as shown in the picture.

I wanted to go with N or SN, But with the regulations as well as the financial constraints, I am not sure if I could actually go through them, hence my attempt with partial. So pardon me if I got my idea of the method wrong.

 

[Bong-Hit-Transplant]

Sorry but I thought it was the most preferred ligature as per WIki ? or did I get it wrong.



Apologies if I was unclear, in which case I thought of making a simple sketch of what I am facing. Obviously I am no artist, so I can clarify more if you have any questions. But this is what happens as shown in the picture.

I wanted to go with N or SN, But with the regulations as well as the financial constraints, I am not sure if I could actually go through them, hence my attempt with partial. So pardon me if I got my idea of the method wrong.

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Oh I see. Yeah you definitely have your slipknot set up incorrectly. It's hard to tell exactly, but it might be that the wrong end of the rope is secured to the window frame (the loose end that gets smaller should be the one tied to the wall). There might also be something else wrong with it, so I'd just retie it to make sure. Normally, the noose should tighten and get smaller the more pressure you place on it.

I'd also echo what AnestheticVoid said in that using a BDSM rope would make me nervous. I can't find where in the Wiki it recommends using one, but it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be made with durability in mind. That being said, people have used neckties in full suspension to great success, so maybe I'm just being overly-careful.

 

[Everybody_yells]

Oh I see. Yeah you definitely have your slipknot set up incorrectly. It's hard to tell exactly, but it might be that the wrong end of the rope is secured to the window frame (the loose end that gets smaller should be the one tied to the wall). There might also be something else wrong with it, so I'd just retie it to make sure. Normally, the noose should tighten and get smaller the more pressure you place on it.

I'd also echo what AnestheticVoid said in that using a BDSM rope would make me nervous. I can't find where in the Wiki it recommends using one, but it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be made with durability in mind. That being said, people have used neckties in full suspension to great success, so maybe I'm just being overly-careful.

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I could try and tie the other end to the support. Or perhaps if that does not work either, maybe tie both ends to the support thus making it possible to constrict my neck from both sides.

Also, this ( https://suicidewiki.org/Hanging#Ligature_type ) , is where I found the referenced suggestions for Ligature types. I also recollect reading the same info in the old Wiki as well before it disappeared. Also, I not honestly worried about the rope snapping because I am way under nourished and skinny lol !
But that said, I do have concerns about whether its friction would be good enough to constrict my neck in which case what type of ligature did you have in mind as opposed to bdsm ?

 

[Bong-Hit-Transplant]

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I could try and tie the other end to the support. Or perhaps if that does not work either, maybe tie both ends to the support thus making it possible to constrict my neck from both sides.

If both ends of a slipknot are tied, it's possible for the "surplus" end to become taught before the tightening end does, meaning you'd have the same problem as before. Just make sure you have the right end tied. If you put your hand through the noose, pulling on one of the ends should cause the noose to constrict around your arm, and the other shouldn't do anything. The one that makes it constrict is the one that should be tied.

Also, this ( https://suicidewiki.org/Hanging#Ligature_type ) , is where I found the referenced suggestions for Ligature types. I also recollect reading the same info in the old Wiki as well before it disappeared. Also, I not honestly worried about the rope snapping because I am way under nourished and skinny lol !

Ah, I see what type of rope you're talking about now. I was thinking of something much thinner, kind of yarn-like. Yeah, as long as you're confident it'll hold you it's fine.

But that said, I do have concerns about whether its friction would be good enough to constrict my neck in which case what type of ligature did you have in mind as opposed to bdsm ?

Friction shouldn't have much to do with it. All you're trying to do is put pressure on the two carotid arteries to the sides of your Adam's apple. A rope with more friction would actually make it more painful and probably harder for the slipknot to fully constrict around your neck.

I have a soft nylon rope maybe half an inch in diameter that I was planning on using because it seemed like the best trade off between comfort and durability, but a strong cotton rope like the one the wiki recommends looks even less painful while being just as strong, so if you have something like that you should be fine.

 

[Everybody_yells]

Thanks for clarifying.

And yeah, tying the right end actually tightens the noose correctly. So I was indeed doing it wrong. Although. it seems a large amount of constriction is coming in to the front of my neck as opposed to the sides. But that's probably something I have to straighten out.

Anyway thanks for your input. I appreciate it. !