Questions to those who tried SN

[LapisLazuli]

Hello. Im still a bit uncertain and worried about SN method, so if you tried taking SN, then please answer a few of my questions. Im sorry if Im bringing up bad memories, but I really need to know everything about this method, before I try.

1- Can you tell me how did this happen, that you were saved ?

2- Did you experience any permament damage to your organs ?

3- Did you vomit while awake, or asleep ?

4- Is it true that you can wake up in a pile of your own feces from the SN method ?

5- Im EXTREMELY worried about ending up as vegeatable. Can you please say something about it, to make me worry less ? Im not sure if I will be able to do it , if the risk is so huge.

 

[jonward55]

Great questions.

 

[アホペンギン]

I haven't tried SN yet but I'll answer them anyways because I know how to answer them.

1. Usually you get saved because you try to call the paramedic, someone hears you or sees you, or you fail to follow the regimen.

2. Permanent damage to the organs will only occur after being saved too late, due to the differences in metabolism in everyone, its impossible to know when it is late or early while being saved.

3. You can vomit while unconscious so you'll have to take antiemetics or be resistant to vomiting.

4. Yes, you can wake up in a pile of your feces because during death, the mechanism that helps you hold in your feces shuts down, resulting in everything coming out.

5. If you follow the regimen closely enough, you won't end up as a vegetable. There is a chance to end up as a vegetable in virtually all methods, its unavoidable but this applies to every method: if you do everything correctly, you will succeed. Luck is also required but for SN its just doing everything correctly, the SN will kill you.

 

[Nezumi04]

I haven't tried SN yet so I can't answer all of the questions but I'll answer them anyways because I know how to answer them.

1. Usually you get saved because you try to call the paramedic, someone hears you or sees you, or you fail to follow the regimen.

2. Permanent damage to the organs will only occur after being saved too late, due to the differences in metabolism in everyone, its impossible to mnow when it is late or early while being saved.

3. You can't vomit while asleep.

4. Yes, you can wake up in a pile of your feces because during death, the mechanism that helps you hold in your feces shuts down, resulting in everything coming out.

5. If you follow the regimen closely enough, you won't end up as a vegetable. There is a chance to end up as a vegetable in virtually all methods, its unavoidable but this applies to every method: if you do everything correctly, you will succeed. Luck is also required but for SN its just doing everything correctly, the SN will kill you.

#4 doesn't sound like a pleasant way to be found... I would hate it if anyone I knew found me dead in that state, so that's kinda concerning.

 

[アホペンギン]

#4 doesn't sound like a pleasant way to be found... I would hate it if anyone I knew found me dead in that state, so that's kinda concerning.

Well, you're dead so its none of your concern at that point... Just remember to defecate before drinking the SN if you're worried about that, lol.

 

[FuneralGrey]

3. You can't vomit while asleep.

You absolutely can (and probably will) vomit while asleep or otherwise unconscious.

 

[アホペンギン]

You absolutely can (and probably will) vomit while asleep or otherwise unconscious.

Wait what I didn't know that, thanks for reassuring me, I'll edit my post!!!

Thing is, I haven't seen any cases of anyone vomiting while asleep or unconscious, they only threw up when they woke up.

 

[Slark]

Hello. Im still a bit uncertain and worried about SN method, so if you tried taking SN, then please answer a few of my questions. Im sorry if Im bringing up bad memories, but I really need to know everything about this method, before I try.

1- Can you tell me how did this happen, that you were saved ?

2- Did you experience any permament damage to your organs ?

3- Did you vomit while awake, or asleep ?

4- Is it true that you can wake up in a pile of your own feces from the SN method ?

5- Im EXTREMELY worried about ending up as vegeatable. Can you please say something about it, to make me worry less ? Im not sure if I will be able to do it , if the risk is so huge.

As far as I know, it is possible to vomit while sleeping.

 

[アホペンギン]

As far as I know, it is possible to vomit while sleeping.

Where did you learn that from?

Also, its more likely to vomit while awake, nausea usually comes while conscious so most people throw up while conscious.

 

[Nezumi04]

Well, you're dead so its none of your concern at that point... Just remember to defecate before drinking the SN if you're worried about that, lol.

yeah, I know I'd be dead . I think I'd be concerned about who finds me though. Like, I definitely wouldn't want someone I care about to see that, it could be "extra" traumatizing.

 

[アホペンギン]

yeah, I know I'd be dead . I think I'd be concerned about who finds me though. Like, I definitely wouldn't want someone I care about to see that, it could be "extra" traumatizing.

If its your parents who finds you then it wouldn't be that traumatizing for them… If you know what I'm talking about.. As for someone else, you're probably right.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Thing is, I haven't seen any cases of anyone vomiting while asleep or unconscious, they only threw up when they woke up.

It can also happen that people who fall into alc coma, they can even then vomit and suffocate from that. Being unconscious / in coma doesn't mean the human SI isn't working to try to save its life.

 

[Kera]

Hello. Im still a bit uncertain and worried about SN method, so if you tried taking SN, then please answer a few of my questions. Im sorry if Im bringing up bad memories, but I really need to know everything about this method, before I try.

1- Can you tell me how did this happen, that you were saved ?

2- Did you experience any permament damage to your organs ?

3- Did you vomit while awake, or asleep ?

4- Is it true that you can wake up in a pile of your own feces from the SN method ?

5- Im EXTREMELY worried about ending up as vegeatable. Can you please say something about it, to make me worry less ? Im not sure if I will be able to do it , if the risk is so huge.

I'm sorry you haven't had sufficient responses in your other thread.

If you follow Stan's guide, then you have less to worry about.

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Vomiting can occur despite antiemetic. Therefore, if possible, drink SN with little water. If you have fasted for two days beforehand, your bowels should be pretty empty. You could also take an anti-diarrhoea drug (e.g. loperamide) 12 hours beforehand. 1 - after 6 hours 1 - after 5 hours the last tablet. I have also vomited in my sleep. That's why the paramedics put unconscious people in a recovery position so that they don't suffocate if they vomit.
I had already commented on point 2 ;)

It is recommended that you test SN for purity!

 

[Slark]

Where did you learn that from?

Also, its more likely to vomit while awake, nausea usually comes while conscious so most people throw up while conscious.

I googled it before posting my review and every site I visited said that it is indeed possible for you to vomit in your sleep. Even if it is unlikely, I think it is important to mention this possibility. I saw that someone else even commented on this post saying that it is indeed possible.

 

[Sonny77]

A combination of SN and another method that quickly renders unconscious makes sense in my opinion. If you want to vomit and don't want to experience the unpleasant side of the SN method and to ensure a successful suicide. My choices are taking SN and smoke fentanyl, or SN and hanging, or the night-night method.


Also read the thread with the SN list about successful or failed CTB.

 

[Kera]

As far as I know, it is possible to vomit while sleeping.

Where did you learn that from?

Sorry, if I may say something!? I learned it in the first aid course. With us, the first aid course is mandatory for all drivers of motor vehicles, mopeds and motorcycles!

 

[アホペンギン]

Sorry, if I may say something!? I learned it in the first aid course.

Ok thanks for telling me, I never read such things so I'm not very knowledgeable in regards to those things.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

My choices are smoking SN and fentanyl, or SN and hanging, or the night-night method.

Correct me if I'm wrong but did you say smoke SN and Fentanyl. I doubt that's ever been done before plus I don't think it's been documented how they work together.

Also @Kera, fasting for two days is counter-productive with SN since the build of gastric juices may cause issues such as SN being converted into salt and possibly, uncomfortable stomach pain, for the most part, 8 hrs is more than enough time to fast for SN, whether it's a 48hr regimen or Stat dose.

The question about vomiting is ones sleep or when unconscious has bothered me for a bit considering I do want to take benzos with SN to ease anxiety and perhaps induce unconsciousness quicker since I do not have any tolerance to it beyond 1mg. Given how once someone is unconscious with SN, it seems to indicate that they've taken enough in their system to possibly kill them if no intervention is made so how much could possibly even be left at that point, undigested to vomit while unconscious and consider how such a small of water is taken with SN as well.

 

[SleepyRobloxGrl]

Where did you learn that from?

Also, its more likely to vomit while awake, nausea usually comes while conscious so most people throw up while conscious.

Wait but you can vomit while unconscious. In my past ODs and watching friends OD we've almost always vomited while unconscious? idk it's pretty common, man

 

[アホペンギン]

Wait but you can vomit while unconscious. In my past ODs and watching friends OD we've almost always vomited while unconscious? idk it's pretty common, man

Yeah I know now, that you can vomit while unconscious but as for the SN method, most people vomit while conscious, not that its unlikely to do so while unconscious but nausea comes really early on, which makes people throw up while they are awake.

 

[Kera]

Also @Kera fasting for two days is counter-productive with SN since the build of gastric juices may cause issues such as SN being converted into salt and possibly, uncomfortable stomach pain, for the most part, 8 hrs is more than enough time to fast for SN, whether it's a 48hr regimen or Stat dose.

Yes, I see it that way too ;) I often start from myself and think people know it. 2 days fasting is also simply too much strain for the body.
Taking the antiemetic 24, 16, 8 hours before the suicide 10mg each, 45 minutes before the suicide 1x or 3x10mg MCP or domperidone.
You can eat and drink normally up to about 8-12 hours before the suicide.
If you wish, you can eat a snack about half an hour before the suicide, e.g. a small slice of toast (not a full meal.). A completely empty stomach is particularly sensitive.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Yes, I see it that way too ;) I often start from myself and think people know it. 2 days fasting is also simply too much strain for the body.
Taking the antiemetic 24, 16, 8 hours before the suicide 10mg each, 45 minutes before the suicide 1x or 3x10mg MCP or domperidone.
You can eat and drink normally up to about 8-12 hours before the suicide.
If you wish, you can eat a snack about half an hour before the suicide, e.g. a small slice of toast (not a full meal.). A completely empty stomach is particularly sensitive.

Would it really advisable considering that there shouldn't be anything to eat for those 8 hrs and minimal to no water for the last 3-2 hrs before taking SN. I do agree that perhaps eating 12 hrs beforehand is still fine but inside the fasting hrs is risky especially something like toast that does digest slowly. I do appreciate your thoughts though, just not sure since most people who followed the regimen and ctbd successfully did not eat anything, small or otherwise before taking SN but then again, this may be why vomiting occurs since the stomach is particularly sensitive when empty, perhaps a light meal is better a few hours before SN, say maybe 5 hrs but everyone knows their digestive system better.

 

[Kera]

Wait but you canvomit while unconscious. In my past ODs and watching friends OD we've almost always vomited while unconscious? idk it's pretty common, man

Yes, exactly, as I already reasoned;) But good that you mention it again.

I have also vomited in my sleep. That's why the paramedics put unconscious people in a recovery position so that they don't suffocate if they vomit.

 

[Sonny77]

Correct me if I'm wrong but did you say smoke SN and Fentanyl. I doubt that's ever been done before plus I don't think it's been documented how they work together.

Nonono, dont smoke SN!! First you drink SN as usually. After that immediately smoke Fentanyl. If you are not used to fentanyl, it will render you unconscious immediately. Fentanyl alone should be lethal. But as written, as security for a successful CTB!

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Nonono, dont smoke SN!! First you drink SN as usually. After that immediately smoke Fentanyl. If you are not used to fentanyl, it will render you unconscious immediately. Fentanyl alone should be lethal. But as written, as security for a successful CTB!

Sorry, I misunderstood but the way you worded made me think otherwise. I don't know how that work but maybe it could in some way.

 

[Kera]

Would it really advisable considering that there shouldn't be anything to eat for those 8 hrs and minimal to no water for the last 3-2 hrs before taking SN. I do agree that perhaps eating 12 hrs beforehand is still fine but inside the fasting hrs is risky especially something like toast that does digest slowly. I do appreciate your thoughts though, just not sure since most people who followed the regimen and ctbd successfully did not eat anything, small or otherwise before taking SN but then again, this may be why vomiting occurs since the stomach is particularly sensitive when empty, perhaps a light meal is better a few hours before SN, say maybe 5 hrs but everyone knows their digestive system better.

WOZZ writes:
Nothing to eat for 8 hours. Drinking water or tea is possible.
One should take the last antiemetic one hour before taking the medication.
If you wish, you can eat a little something beforehand to activate the empty stomach.

During these last 8 hours, person may take a mild laxative of their accustomed use to cleanse the bowels and to prevent it from voiding after falling asleep. However, this is not mandatory.

Düber mentions a small slice of toast as a snack.

This recommendation is for taking opiates, chloroquine, tricyclic antidepressants and barbiturates.

But now I'm wondering whether it's different with SN!?

 

[Deleted member 65988]

WOZZ writes:
Nothing to eat for 8 hours. Drinking water or tea is possible.
One should take the last antiemetic one hour before taking the medication.
If you wish, you can eat a little something beforehand to activate the empty stomach.

During these last 8 hours, person may take a mild laxative of their accustomed use to cleanse the bowels and to prevent it from voiding after falling asleep. However, this is not mandatory.

Düber mentions a small slice of toast as a snack.

This recommendation is for taking opiates, chloroquine, tricyclic antidepressants and barbiturates.

But now I'm wondering whether it's different with SN!?

But I suppose it depends what that little something could be, I'm just gonna not eat anything since I plan to do it at 2am. I've always thought it could be possible that people vomit because they are taking meds and SN on an empty stomach which could increase vomiting but I never thought much of it further than that so that there is no deviation from the method as it's been for years now.

 

[Kera]

My choices are smoking SN and fentanyl, or SN and hanging, or the night-night method.

Correct me if I'm wrong but did you say smoke SN and Fentanyl.

Hmm, I had understood it that way too, smoking SN and fentanyl.
But I thought, okay, I haven't heard that yet. But it would be a really cool thing and certainly peaceful!!!!

 

[アホペンギン]

If you have fasted for two days beforehand, your bowels should be pretty empty.

Fasting for too long can cause some complications.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

"Circulatory dysfunction is further compounded by hemolysis and the peripheral vasodilatory action of sodium nitrite (as a precursor of nitric oxide), inducing circulatory shock. As such, pre-existing cardiovascular disease and/or anemia are conditions which will exacerbate toxicity"

an interesting bit of information i found from a medical article which was a question I once had about the effects of SN If one has underlying cardiovascular issues.