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Wisdom3_1-9

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Jul 19, 2020
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I'm honestly considering checking myself into one. Part of me just wants to escape from my reality for a while. And then, when I do ctb eventually, I feel like people will be more understanding. "Well, he was struggling." "How sad that things got so bad for him." My mom won't feel like it's out of the blue. Others will think that I at least tried to "get better" but it was all just too much for me.

Idk, am I crazy? (No pun intended.)
 
FriendofDeath

FriendofDeath

Elementalist
May 22, 2020
833
Probably not crazy. I only had one experience and think I was there 5 days. There was a schedule, but they didn't force people to go. Had group, an exercise group (ugh), art therapy, individual sessions and even a family one. I knew part of it was playing a game to show you were getting better (like whether you showered and the like). I really did feel like I was in the film Girl, Interrupted before I left there. There was one TV. No electronic devices allowed. Could only use crayons or those short pencils with no eraser. They try to limit your caffeine with no more caffeinated drinks after 4pm. And I'm addicted to Coke! Argh! I had a terrible time trying to sleep. When I succeeded, I snored. I was the only one with a roommate, poor thing. There are so many different settings - mine was in a hospital. My mother stayed in a private facility that had more options. It's not a horrible idea. And if you are crazy, I assume they'll keep you longer!
 
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Linda

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Jul 30, 2020
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I'm honestly considering checking myself into one. Part of me just wants to escape from my reality for a while. And then, when I do ctb eventually, I feel like people will be more understanding. "Well, he was struggling." "How sad that things got so bad for him." My mom won't feel like it's out of the blue. Others will think that I at least tried to "get better" but it was all just too much for me.

Idk, am I crazy? (No pun intended.)
I have no personal experience of psych wards, but almost certainly some of them are very good and you would find them helpful. Others might be useless, or worse than useless. I suggest you do some research before you approach any particular ward. Perhaps talk to people who have been there.
 
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ilovenightmares

Alcohol is my medication
Jul 4, 2020
53
Two months in there and they put some kind of block on my sucidal thoughts. Been unable to plan anything out properly since.

It was a nice break from life in there though, like you don't need to make any excuses or feel any guilt.
 
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torimandy

Fear is the mind killer
Aug 3, 2020
146
In USA psych people are trained than anyone with suicidal thoughts must be crazy. You are never in my country, find anyone who can empathize with your situation. In order to get back out you basically have to lie and tell them the urge has passed, or they keep and drugging you deeper and deeper until you say what they want. They offer no real help other than coping with suffering and rationalizing that things always get better, even though they won't help them get better. One time I was release with no social support to even get home. That day was an 8 mile hike. That's basically how compassionate they are
 
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torimandy

Fear is the mind killer
Aug 3, 2020
146
I have no personal experience of psych wards, but almost certainly some of them are very good and you would find them helpful. Others might be useless, or worse than useless. I suggest you do some research before you approach any particular ward. Perhaps talk to people who have been there.
I've been to several facilities. None are any good. The day my insurance stopped paying one facility stated I was not suicidal, even though I told them if they let me out I would attempt within 24 hours of release. Facilities are about money. There is no empathy what so ever. You are a number and a paycheck, nothing more.
I've been to several facilities. None are any good. The day my insurance stopped paying one facility stated I was not suicidal, even though I told them if they let me out I would attempt within 24 hours of release. Facilities are about money. There is no empathy what so ever. You are a number and a paycheck, nothing more.
And unless you are wealthy, you don't get to pick and choose a facility. You must go to the hospital and check yourself in, where they determine which facility is available to you based upon an open bed and if that facility accepts your insurance. You do not get to choose unless you can pay cash up front, and even then most require a hospital stay prior to sending you to the facility.
 
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torimandy

Fear is the mind killer
Aug 3, 2020
146
Have you spoken to your mental health provider about this? Assuming that help from insurance is needed pay for it, you'll need their referral. It's not easy to get approved. I advise against presenting yourself to the hospital with acute suicidality as you could be involuntarily admitted and need to earn your way out.

Could you get more intensive outpatient treatment?
Actually in most states the facility you present to is required to have you sent to a medical hospital for evaluation purposes. The longest i was in the hospital waiting for a bed was 5 weeks. The shortest 5 days. That's 5 visits over all. If the issues you are having are financial, just figure you are probably going to loose your job and at least 2 paychecks.
 
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May 9, 2020
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I've had similar thoughts. Going into a psyche ward for me would basically be admitting defeat and saying to everyone and myself than I can't handle normal life and need help. I think it could actually benefit people depending on their situation so keep the option in mind.
 
feast or famine

feast or famine

Tell Patient Zero he can have his rib back.
Jun 15, 2020
313
I've been in 3 psych wards. The last time was just recently after a failed suicide attempt. I spent a week in the hospital due to injuries, then I was transferred to psych for 3 weeks. I absolutely hated every second. I don't even know where to begin. If you like your freedom, you don't want to be in there.
 
Black Rose Bunny

Black Rose Bunny

I’m having simpsons of mental illness
Jan 29, 2020
107
I was in one 4 times last year... it's not like the worst but there's little to distract you from your thoughts other than like reading or talking to the people there, since they don't allow much in there, so it gets to be kinda depressing imo except you know you can't ctb since they check in you every 15 minutes. Also though every time I go they mess up my hormone prescription and it really fucks with me. And there are groups every hour or so, you don't have to attend but like you get out sooner if you do. Hygiene there isn't great either since they limit what you can have, especially since a lot of them deal with addiction too and a lot of hygiene products have alcohol. The other people there though are usually friendly, even though I assume it's only because they have to be, sometimes it's really hard for me to tell when people are fake nice. There's usually a couple creepy people in your unit though. Sometimes I get nightmares about them though even though it didn't seem that bad.
 
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OpheliasFlowers

Specialist
Apr 2, 2019
348
My one experience being in a psych ward was six years ago. I went to the ER with extreme anxiety, depression and just a feeling of total hopelessness and like I was having a nervous breakdown. Never mentioned suicide whatsoever and was actually not actively considering it at the time, but the doctor/s and social worker I talked to in the ER suggested going inpatient (voluntarily) and I was desperate for help and relief from the physical symptoms of my anxiety & depression. I also (mistakenly, naively) thought that a few of my physical problems that my useless medical doctors attributed to 'just anxiety' would HAVE to be addressed while in the hospital, but no...in the psych ward, at least at the hospital I was at, they pretty much don't care about what physical issues you're experiencing unless you're about ready to die on the floor in front of their face OR the physical symptoms affect them/your mental health treatment...i.e. insomnia, etc - THEN they *might* address those. But anyway, I found the three-day psych ward experience, for me, to be unpleasant (not so nice nurses, esp at night; some day nurses were very kind and compassionate though); inconvenient (they take away EVERYTHING: your own clothes until you're "cleared" to wear your own stuff but then of course nothing with ties, like on sweatpants, as already mentioned by others no phone (I'm in US, I know in UK you are often allowed to keep your phone though). I have very very dry eyes and I couldn't even keep my OTC plain old eye lubricant drops, they had to keep them up behind the desk and I had to ASK whenever I wanted them and if the not very nice nurses were on duty they'd pretty much ignore me until they had to 'notice' me standing there calling to them and then they acted like I was bothering them. It was frustrating and humiliating. And yes, hygiene there is minimal -- no razors for obvious reasons allowed, so hairy legs and pits, no mouthwash allowed, not even dental floss! They did let me have headphones that they'd give out if you asked for a pair, which was good because then I could listen to music but up in that building reception wasn't great so not many stations came in and the ones that did were static-y and would fade in and out, but at least it was something. The of course the usual like art therapy classes, exercise classes, they had TVs around during the day and would play movies on them if people asked. Only one tv with regular reception in the common room and this one guy hogged it ALL DAY LONG, literally. I was so very physically exhausted and wanted to sleep and rest more but they'd nag me to leave my room and go to these dumb classes which kind of made me mad - I needed rest more than anything and they wouldn't allow it. The entire time there I never once saw an actual psychiatrist/therapist...just med students who'd ask a bunch of questions and then leave. What was the point of that? They'd push drugs at me and I'd refuse, they'd get annoyed with me but never FORCED the drugs on me, thankfully. No phones in any rooms, only in the common area and those would be unplugged and disconnected at 9 p.m. and not reconnected again until around 7 a.m. or something. VERY restricted visiting hours but in my case I had no family or friends where I live so no visitors were going to be coming to see me anyway -- my only connection at that time was my mom who would call during the day. Finally I just lied enough to get myself out of there. I consider the experience a huge waste of time and I hated how much like prison it was with how much was not allowed, how monitored I was, and how everything was locked down and how I was treated by some of the staff.

ALLLLL that said, though, I know some people have had VERY positive experiences while inpatient, and going in really helped them in terms of setting up a treatment plan and getting on a path towards recovery or at least, relief. So even though I just wrote a long post that was negative and my end result of my experience was no help, I would never DIScourage someone from looking into an inpatient stay if they felt they needed/wanted to do it. Everyone and every hospital and staff is different -- for someone else, an inpatient stay could be the best thing they ever did and is worth a try if you're wanting help and a chance at getting better. Just, like someone already said, check the place out a bit before you go to a particular place, see if you can find reviews or ask people about the facility (I know one place in my town has a TERRIBLE REPUTATION and has for years and years and I'd never go there just based on that and what I know from word of mouth and a couple people who have worked there).

If you decide to check yourself in, I wish you all the best in finding what you need right now from such a place and a good experience overall. Just be prepared that going into a ward isn't a relaxing, good time, unfortunately, and you lose many freedoms of daily life you might take for granted until you get in there and they're not up to you anymore.:( It's kind of a crapshoot as to how the experience might turn out. Hugs and peace to you <3
 
Wonderland

Wonderland

Marie
May 21, 2020
33
I've been put in psych ward twice, involuntarily. First, It is easier when you go by yourself I think you don't have to go through this fighting against nurses and screaming and crying which I still have nightmares with. I can say I hate my family for doing that to me I would never forgive them. And it totally depend in which kind of place it is. Inform yourself first, ask for testimonies: At the end it is not as they say it would be. Just be careful, and in the right hands, i mean if you are thinking it, it is because you want help, and there is hope for you. So, do what feels right for you. Best of lucks, xo
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

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Jul 19, 2020
1,954
I wonder what they'd be like now in the time of COVID.

Truth be told, in my darkest moments (like right now), I feel like it would be good for me, just so I don't have to make any of my own decisions and I can have an excuse for not going to work. As of right now, I can't imagine doing my job in just 9 hours' time like I'm supposed to.

Also, I feel like I'm not really that far off from doing something rash, which would cause them to commit me. Idk. I just feel really weird right now.
 
Susannah

Susannah

Mage
Jul 2, 2018
530
In USA psych people are trained than anyone with suicidal thoughts must be crazy. You are never in my country, find anyone who can empathize with your situation. In order to get back out you basically have to lie and tell them the urge has passed, or they keep and drugging you deeper and deeper until you say what they want. They offer no real help other than coping with suffering and rationalizing that things always get better, even though they won't help them get better. One time I was release with no social support to even get home. That day was an 8 mile hike. That's basically how compassionate they are
Same experience here. The biggest problem was actually the "staff". Except for a few nurses, the doctors and "workers" were idiots, showed no empathy with the patients. The treatment offered was medication and punishment. I got threathened with electro shock several times because I was in a bad mood.

That said. I wasn't "mental", just heart- broken, and I still don't know why the police came to my home and drove me to the psyc ward. Maybe it's better if you volunteer.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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Same experience here. The biggest problem was actually the "staff". Except for a few nurses, the doctors and "workers" were idiots, showed no empathy with the patients. The treatment offered was medication and punishment. I got threathened with electro shock several times because I was in a bad mood.

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Maybe it's better if you volunteer.

I'm sorry you went through that and, no, it's not better if you volunteer, at least not in my experience.
 
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LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,164
I can only tell you that I have regretted every time I was in there and the people, the rhetoric, the medications..it all made me 1000xworse and added to my traumas.
But you have to do whatever you feel is best for you, some people don't feel the same as I do about psych wards. Although, if you end up at a particularly terrible one, then your outlook may not be able to prevent a bad experience.
Same experience here. The biggest problem was actually the "staff". Except for a few nurses, the doctors and "workers" were idiots, showed no empathy with the patients. The treatment offered was medication and punishment. I got threathened with electro shock several times because I was in a bad mood.

That said. I wasn't "mental", just heart- broken, and I still don't know why the police came to my home and drove me to the psyc ward. Maybe it's better if you volunteer.

You too? Horrible. I was threatened with it as well, just because they did not like my attitude and the fact that I saw right through their bullshit.

I saw people come back from ECT and it was not pretty...zombies.
I asked one of them "You get this done willingly!?" And she said "Well, not the first time." ...Not the first time!!! So I conclude that your brain got fried until you submitted! (were my thoughts) Yikes.
Those staff who don't get along with certain patients get off on the control and some who run the department get paid for the stretchers they fill in the ECT unit. All it is, is the modern day lobotomy, they can't even explain how it works. Probably because it doesn't work and their definition of a successful treatment is a subdued, brain dead patient. I'm telling you, if they actually went through with their threat and attempted that, people would have lost eyes. My face and body are already lost causes, I'm not losing my mind on top of it. Sure I'm fucked up because of my circumstances, but a good amount of sanity and control of self are still intact. I think they actually single out the sanest patients sometimes for ECT, they want to clip their wings, so to speak.

I was also told I was acting like a "pig in a pigsty" on that particular visit, just because I dropped a few tissues on the side of my bed. I experienced extreme restlessness, insomnia and general withdrawal from psych meds taken off cold turkey, I could barely even walk, and they told me it was impossible to have withdrawal symptoms from psych meds. I didn't even know what withdrawal was at that age, I just knew something was wrong and they were basically laughing in my face about it. That whole "visit" was half a blur and half hell, clear as day. It wasn't the only one but it was the only time I was threatened with ECT. Scary.

By the way, all my times at psych wards were voluntary. Not really, just technically. Basically they threaten you with that too..I probably could have gotten away with walking out before they got me a bed but I was scared of what they said. Which was if I didn't sign in voluntarily, that they could start the process of getting me in involuntarily. Which requires a court order ( I did not know this at the time), and would mean a whole lot of nightmarish predicaments for the future. But voluntary is never voluntary, not just for that reason, but for the fact that you can't just get up and leave the ward, it won't happen. You also can't refuse your meds or group time without the consequences of an extended stay, for as long as the insurance will keep you there. In that respect, voluntary and involuntary patients are no different. It's when you get out of the hospital that the "involuntarily committed" label will haunt you more so than the voluntary one.
 
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Susannah

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Jul 2, 2018
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I've been put in psych ward twice, involuntarily. First, It is easier when you go by yourself I think you don't have to go through this fighting against nurses and screaming and crying which I still have nightmares with. I can say I hate my family for doing that to me I would never forgive them. And it totally depend in which kind of place it is. Inform yourself first, ask for testimonies: At the end it is not as they say it would be. Just be careful, and in the right hands, i mean if you are thinking it, it is because you want help, and there is hope for you. So, do what feels right for you. Best of lucks, xo

My "best" girlfriend "conspired" with my very sick mum. My father didn't know better. He thought it would be like an ordinary hospital. When I finally gave my permission for them to visit me, they got terrified over the conditions there. I got transferred to a nicer- looking part of the building, with reallly zombie- patients, but I felt even more lost there than in the "acute- part". I eventually forgave them, but it tok me 3 years.
 

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