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sorrowful

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Got transferred from hospital to a psych ward even worse in here i am so far away from my sick family member everything is out of my control
it is legal abduction
I failed so many people I need to ctb now there is hardly anything i can use i think i saw someone say something about someone ctb by choking on paper towels does anyone know anything
 
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do you have bedsheets? maybe you could wrap and secure those around your neck and do a blood choke?
 
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I am under section 2 uk I might be able to appeal I don't know. Max stay is 28 days unless after they decide to put you under section 3 which supposedly lasts up to 6 months I can't be trapped that long
do you have bedsheets? maybe you could wrap and secure those around your neck and do a blood choke?
Do you have a link to the blood choke? I have bed sheets
 
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I'm sorry I have no ideas what you could use instantly. It's such a cruel and inhumane treatment in psych wards that causes so much more suffering instead of humane and easily accessible methods. I hope you can find peace somehow. *virtual HUG* I'm sorry I can't do more.
 
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Yeah, bedsheet choking is your best bet unless if you want to find and steal from where they put items which are taken away.
 
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I am under section 2 uk I might be able to appeal I don't know. Max stay is 28 days unless after they decide to put you under section 3 which supposedly lasts up to 6 months I can't be trapped that long

Do you have a link to the blood choke? I have bed sheets
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/
its basically the night night method. just try to find the sweet spots and you'll be good. If your pillow has a sheet over it maybe that would be easier, for me its better if the sheet is smaller but a big sheet is also fine if you can figure it out. also make sure you tie a very secure knot, this works, i tried it and i passed out but someone saved me :/
 
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I read your post the other day and am so upset to see that you've been moved away from your family member. Is there a patient advocate who could possibly advocate for you to go back to the unit in the same facility as your family member?

You likely do have legal recourse but the process will differ depending where you are. Unfortunately, I only have info about state offices and licensing boards in the U.S., but there must be similar oversight of docs and hospitals in the UK.

The decision to move you was inhumane- how could a reasonable psychiatrist expect you to improve after they separated you from a loved one you are worried about? Whom they were already keeping you from seeing, without clear justification (to me, anyway).

I'm sorry that I don't have the advice you are looking for, just wanted to say how angry and sad I am on your behalf. If you'd like help with troubleshooting, I'm here.
 
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I'm sorry I have no ideas what you could use instantly. It's such a cruel and inhumane treatment in psych wards that causes so much more suffering instead of humane and easily accessible methods. I hope you can find peace somehow. *virtual HUG* I'm sorry I can't do more.
Thank you for your kind words. Hug 🫂

Yeah, bedsheet choking is your best bet unless if you want to find and steal from where they put items which are taken away.
Could maybe do this, they took from me a long charger. I don't know what exactly to do with it because everything is slanted etc completely CTB proof in here.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-night-night-method-mega-thread.6834/
its basically the night night method. just try to find the sweet spots and you'll be good. If your pillow has a sheet over it maybe that would be easier, for me its better if the sheet is smaller but a big sheet is also fine if you can figure it out. also make sure you tie a very secure knot, this works, i tried it and i passed out but someone saved me :/
This seems like my best option. Thank you.
I read your post the other day and am so upset to see that you've been moved away from your family member. Is there a patient advocate who could possibly advocate for you to go back to the unit in the same facility as your family member?

You likely do have legal recourse but the process will differ depending where you are. Unfortunately, I only have info about state offices and licensing boards in the U.S., but there must be similar oversight of docs and hospitals in the UK.

The decision to move you was inhumane- how could a reasonable psychiatrist expect you to improve after they separated you from a loved one you are worried about? Whom they were already keeping you from seeing, without clear justification (to me, anyway).

I'm sorry that I don't have the advice you are looking for, just wanted to say how angry and sad I am on your behalf. If you'd like help with troubleshooting, I'm here.
It is cruel. Truly. I explained my reasons for wanting to leave, and how I don't believe these places will benefit me. But they still say that I am at risk of harm, even said I look "vulnerable."

I am worried sick because I don't know when I will be able to simply talk with my grandmother again. I feel like I should have done more for her. Thank you for your words.

I am sorry to my family.
 
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illAF

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Got transferred from hospital to a psych ward even worse in here i am so far away from my sick family member everything is out of my control
it is legal abduction
I failed so many people I need to ctb now there is hardly anything i can use i think i saw someone say something about someone ctb by choking on paper towels does anyone know anything
Awww no @doll I'm so very sorry to read this. Don't really have the cognitive strength to express myself for now (especially in english) but for what it worths : I send you all my thoughts and hugs from another psych ward across the sea 🫂💗
 
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Awww no @doll I'm so very sorry to read this. Don't really have the cognitive strength to express myself for now (especially in english) but for what it worths : I send you all my thoughts and hugs from another psych ward across the sea 🫂💗
It is okay, I am practically speechless I do not really know what to say to anyone. Or myself. Hugs to you 🫂💕
 
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Psych wards certainly sound like awful prisons to me, it must be so horrible being trapped in there, I hate how we exist in a world that punishes suffering people like that. But anyway I wish you the best, I hope that in whatever happens you get out of that situation.
 
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psych wards are vile! if you're on section 3 i get it but if you're section 2 or less then you should be there at the very most a month, if you fail ur attempt they'll keep you there WAY longer and you'll have even worse restrictions. im sorry but best way to go about it would be to sit it out and do it first thing when you get out? hope you find peace<3 wishing you the best
 
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Psych wards certainly sound like awful prisons to me, it must be so horrible being trapped in there, I hate how we exist in a world that punishes suffering people like that. But anyway I wish you the best, I hope that in whatever happens you get out of that situation.
I actually was thinking about how I would escape and/or die in a psych ward I was thinking of like an Escapists game.
 
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I really feel for you, the uk health service sucks right now, I only stayed 3 days in a psych ward and hated it. I would try to make a plan to be allowed home. Say you would be better off with family. Tell them you are no longer having thoughts and say you are happy for things to be put in place for your safety if they are worried. I had to lie my arse off to get out and you need to be convincing.
 
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It is okay, I am practically speechless I do not really know what to say to anyone. Or myself. Hugs to you 🫂💕
How are you handling @doll ?
 
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I would argue for patience. Trying to off yourself while already in a psyche ward has exceedingly low success odds, and it would only cause them to intensify the watch over you, and cause further restrictions/increase your medications to keep you under control. They'd also keep you longer. Just exhibit good behavior, be genuine, compliant, cooperative.

Don't make things harder on yourself. Wards are bad enough, at least you're allowed some freedoms currently. Try to stay rational and get your head on straight. Don't lose out to the feeling of hopelessness, and you'll get through it.
 
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You are probably better off just waiting it out.
 
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im sorry for this being done to you, involuntary commitment violates multiple human rights at once, it should be a crime.
 
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Got transferred from hospital to a psych ward even worse in here i am so far away from my sick family member everything is out of my control
it is legal abduction
I failed so many people I need to ctb now there is hardly anything i can use i think i saw someone say something about someone ctb by choking on paper towels does anyone know anything
I'm so sorry you're in this situation, psych wards are the absolute worst :( just be very careful attempting while you're in there because if someone finds you while you're still alive, you could be forced to stay even longer. if you're able to, it would probably be better to wait until you're out of there, although I understand that your stay will feel like eternity.
either way, I hope you're able to find peace 🖤
 
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My exhaustion knows no end
Feb 13, 2023
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Still here. I appreciate so many comments. I tried to find a way to CTB, but it has proven difficult, and I have decided I will just have to wait it out. This whole experience has traumatised me, I apologies if I seemed emotional at times. It was not something I was expecting any time soon, or I was prepared for. My treatment at both the hospital and here has felt more like punishment rather than something that is meant to aid me to get better. Nights are the hardest. I have managed to get some sleeping medication. I just have to push through.
Psych wards certainly sound like awful prisons to me, it must be so horrible being trapped in there, I hate how we exist in a world that punishes suffering people like that. But anyway I wish you the best, I hope that in whatever happens you get out of that situation.
Thank you for your words. I would not wish being trapped in here on anyone, it truly feels devastating and like I have had my humanity stripped away from me.
psych wards are vile! if you're on section 3 i get it but if you're section 2 or less then you should be there at the very most a month, if you fail ur attempt they'll keep you there WAY longer and you'll have even worse restrictions. im sorry but best way to go about it would be to sit it out and do it first thing when you get out? hope you find peace<3 wishing you the best
Thank you, you are right. I was just a little freaked out at first. I have calmed down for the most part now and I will attempt an appeal when I get the chance. For now I will just cooperate with whatever they say so I can show them I am well enough.
You are probably better off just waiting it out.
Yes. That is the best idea and what I have decided.
I actually was thinking about how I would escape and/or die in a psych ward I was thinking of like an Escapists game.
I was thinking of it like this too!! 😅 Makes it a bit funner.
I really feel for you, the uk health service sucks right now, I only stayed 3 days in a psych ward and hated it. I would try to make a plan to be allowed home. Say you would be better off with family. Tell them you are no longer having thoughts and say you are happy for things to be put in place for your safety if they are worried. I had to lie my arse off to get out and you need to be convincing.
It always hurts to hear people going/went through the exact same thing. The system is definitely a failure to so many people. And thank you, that's what I will try to do, cooperate with whatever and fake what I need to. I hope you are okay now. Best wishes. 💕
How are you handling @doll ?
Still here. Still upset, but, really not much to do other than wait it out and go along with their plan. I hope you are well. Kept you in my thoughts.
im sorry for this being done to you, involuntary commitment violates multiple human rights at once, it should be a crime.
Agree! I said it already but, I definitely feel more of a prisoner than anything. And very humiliated. It all feels unfair but my focus is just on getting out as soon as possible. Thank you for your comment.
I would argue for patience. Trying to off yourself while already in a psyche ward has exceedingly low success odds, and it would only cause them to intensify the watch over you, and cause further restrictions/increase your medications to keep you under control. They'd also keep you longer. Just exhibit good behavior, be genuine, compliant, cooperative.

Don't make things harder on yourself. Wards are bad enough, at least you're allowed some freedoms currently. Try to stay rational and get your head on straight. Don't lose out to the feeling of hopelessness, and you'll get through it.
I realised that, I was just upset, angry, unsure of a lot. Feeling slightly better now, though it still hurts to be locked up here. I have decided to comply with their treatment so I have a shot at getting out soon. Thank you for your comment, and helping me rationalise things.
I'm so sorry you're in this situation, psych wards are the absolute worst :( just be very careful attempting while you're in there because if someone finds you while you're still alive, you could be forced to stay even longer. if you're able to, it would probably be better to wait until you're out of there, although I understand that your stay will feel like eternity.
either way, I hope you're able to find peace 🖤
Thank you! I have decided against a ctb attempt here, I will wait it out and try my best to show them I am well enough to actually get out. It does suck but there is little to do other than comply. Much love. 🫂
 
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Still here. I appreciate so many comments. I tried to find a way to CTB, but it has proven difficult, and I have decided I will just have to wait it out. This whole experience has traumatised me, I apologies if I seemed emotional at times. It was not something I was expecting any time soon, or I was prepared for. My treatment at both the hospital and here has felt more like punishment rather than something that is meant to aid me to get better. Nights are the hardest. I have managed to get some sleeping medication. I just have to push through.

Thank you for your words. I would not wish being trapped in here on anyone, it truly feels devastating and like I have had my humanity stripped away from me.

Thank you, you are right. I was just a little freaked out at first. I have calmed down for the most part now and I will attempt an appeal when I get the chance. For now I will just cooperate with whatever they say so I can show them I am well enough.

Yes. That is the best idea and what I have decided.

I was thinking of it like this too!! 😅 Makes it a bit funner.

It always hurts to hear people going/went through the exact same thing. The system is definitely a failure to so many people. And thank you, that's what I will try to do, cooperate with whatever and fake what I need to. I hope you are okay now. Best wishes. 💕

Still here. Still upset, but, really not much to do other than wait it out and go along with their plan. I hope you are well. Kept you in my thoughts.

Agree! I said it already but, I definitely feel more of a prisoner than anything. And very humiliated. It all feels unfair but my focus is just on getting out as soon as possible. Thank you for your comment.

I realised that, I was just upset, angry, unsure of a lot. Feeling slightly better now, though it still hurts to be locked up here. I have decided to comply with their treatment so I have a shot at getting out soon. Thank you for your comment, and helping me rationalise things.

Thank you! I have decided against a ctb attempt here, I will wait it out and try my best to show them I am well enough to actually get out. It does suck but there is little to do other than comply. Much love. 🫂
Many of us, including myself, have gone through the whole "lie to the ward so they let me out" fiasco. Fortunately I was only there for a week. Keep assuring them over and over you are not suicidal anymore, you were depressed and just saying things due to x,y,z... and take any meds they give you until you get out. Even then I would consider some of the meds they give you because some of them actually can help at least a little bit.
 
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illAF

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Thank you @doll for having taken the time to amswer to us all with your kind words. Really wish you all the strength necessary to get out soon 🙏
Many of us, including myself, have gone through the whole "lie to the ward so they let me out" fiasco. Fortunately I was only there for a week. Keep assuring them over and over you are not suicidal anymore, you were depressed and just saying things due to x,y,z... and take any meds they give you until you get out. Even then I would consider some of the meds they give you because some of them actually can help at least a little bit.
Actually in a ward, I can't manage to function properly so really not able to do the trick. I feel weak knowing all of you managed to get out "faking" it...
(Sorry, needed to vent a bit)
 
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