propranolol

[ever so lonely]

hiya guys n gals it is me checking in, hopefully for the very final time, so i have my sn that arrived i have had it a couple of weeks now i think, from canada shipped to the uk, but what interests me more is going out by way of propranolol overdose, i am seeing more and more of it here, i have took it for the past few years for anxiety related issues and panic attacks, see i never even knew this was a concept till i joined the site, can you actually od on propranol ?, because i am an anxiety sufferer like crippling anxiety and panic attacks, with a diagnoses of panic disorder, so i am prescribed this shit by my gp like you wouldnt believe, he literally throws propranolol my way, i have packets of the stuff lying around about the place, my best estimate would be at least 20 or more packets over the past few years, spare, so my question is two fold, how much of it would i need to administer orally for it to work, and my other question would be what are the chances of it working ?, ie success rate ?, thanks in advance peoples, like i say i have my sn with me but for some reason the thought of going out in a relaxing manner with propranolol appeals to me, i guess we each have our most comfortable methods over others, also how long would it take ? before losing consciousness and death ?, i guess that is kind of like a how long is a bit of string question, but hopefully somebody here has answers, i think i am ready to go peeps truly, tonight has just been endless thoughts of hopelessness, and despair and i am simply overwhelmed, even more so than usual, thank you for any advice you can give.

 

[Someone123]

Your questions are things that you would need to know, but you really can learn more about these things by searching for these questions on google yourself- that's what other people here would have to do- so I would suggest this. I hope you can find peace somehow, but for questions like these it really is better to search on google rather than to ask people here, who would have to search for the answers on google and post them here. Best of luck, I hope you can find peace somehow.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Your questions are things that you would need to know, but you really can learn more about these things by searching for these questions on google yourself- that's what other people here would have to do- so I would suggest this. I hope you can find peace somehow, but for questions like these it really is better to search on google rather than to ask people here, who would have to search for the answers on google and post them here. Best of luck, I hope you can find peace somehow.

Pubmed is also a great place to do research. OP can use Sci Hub if it happens that the article they're interested in is a paid one.

unfortunately PPH doesn't mention Propranolol overdose as a method.

this drug is over-the-counter here in Brazil, so I'm curious to know as well.

 

[ever so lonely]

thanks peoples, i will look into it some more, the only reason i am so out of the know on propranolol as a means was because i had no idea you could cbt this way, till relatively recently till i saw the frequent posts about it as a viable option, i will do what you suggested peeps, and look into it, thank you, i guess it is always best to do your due diligence, i dont want to botch it, thanks again.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

I don't have any information for you. Just wanted to say that I'm sorry to see you go.
I know we didn't PM but I liked reading your posts. There was one yesterday I saw but didn't reply to yet.
It was getting late and I was tired and forgot about it.
I have anxiety as well, I don't think it's crippling cuz I can still function.... Somewhat.
I wasn't aware of using propronalol by itself to CTB but I'm not on as much as I used to be.
I wish you peace and love if you go through with it.

 

[CTB72]

I remember reading somewhere that Propranlol can be used along with SN in order to lower your heart rate. Taking SN causes Heart palpitations as your heart tries to get more oxygen into your blood. So could in effect make the process more efficient.

 

[Euthanza]

Propranolol is a beta blocker to decrease heart rate, so I think yes it can be used in suicide.

Here's what I learn from google:

1. Minimum 6gram in 150ml liquid,
2. Lose consciousness in half an hour
3. Death in 9 hours, very long time so better not to be found because hospitals have the antidote.
4. There's a survival case of 5gram ingestion and *getting found*.

I would suggest combination with benzos and anti emetic might be better. I have no idea if it can make you feel high as I have never consume it.

Physician successful suicide with propranolol https://europepmc.org/article/med/28691951

 

[ksp]

more info

I'm 5'5 and around 105lbs, 70x40mg pills was enough for me to flatline in December. I was unconscious by the time I was found seizing, cardiac arrest is what caused me to flatline. To save me I was put into a medically induced coma, my family were warned of brain damage and I was still expected to die until I woke up so I'd imagine brain damage is likely if you survive and I got pretty lucky. I didn't use antiemetics, mix them with any other drug or crush them, I just swallowed them all with a glass of water first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I don't remember being in pain before I lost consciousness either so painless as far as I'm aware.

Just adding that it was actually an effort for the nurses to pull me out of this attempt, took 2 ambulances, 40 mins of chest compressions, intubation, coma, etc. I think this is a pretty reliable way to go. I was told by paramedics when I went back a month after for heart related issues (probably due to this attempt) that they all expected me to die & the first one to treat me cried when she saw me alive. If I am to CTB I'll use propranolol again.

 

[Darkover]

i use to be on propranolol for heart related problems but i never know that it could be used to overdoes on

 

[Efilismislife]

i use to be on propranolol for heart related problems but i never know that it could be used to overdoes on

I use it too i do know for a while that overdose could be dangerous but i think it tales more than that to be fatal
Also i thinl thr fatal dose is extremely high

 

[insomni_yak001]

I am sorry you're in such pain. I googled this just yesterday. I don't have propranolol but my doc offered it so I was wondering... bc I want to ctb soon.

 

[ge0rge]

so weird that propranolol should be given for anxiety. it's a blood pressure medication, not an anxiolytic

 

[Someone123]

so weird that propranolol should be given for anxiety. it's a blood pressure medication, not an anxiolytic

Doctors get kickbacks for a lot of meds they prescribe, so they use it for off label use (in other words, for thinigs it is not designed for). Off label use for chronic meds is not a surprise so much when you realize the doctors are prescrirbin them in order to get free trips , etc- a certain numbe9r of prescriptions gets a free trip, etc. They don't care if it helps or not.

 

[HelloIMustBeGoing]

I remember maybe a year ago someone had tried that and it did not work out well for her. And there was a discussion thread saying it was a horrible method to choose. I don't remember the details but I remember thinking it clearly was a bad path to go down. I am sticking with supplementing SN with p 40 mins before. That seems to expedite the time to unconsciousness from 14 mins to 4 mins.

 

[PArazi]

The interaction list can be hugeee,

• propranolol
• cimetidine
• midazolam
• diazepam
• haldol

https://reference.medscape.com/drug-interactionchecker

I'm not a doctor or pharmacist, but I think there are many more ways than we can imagine. We need more capable people to discuss, in a more practical way if possible, this issue.

Some people are not here for a personal method of chose only. This is a war. A battle between those they want control lives that are not even yours. If we show that there are many practical and peaceful ways to do this, we will not only limit them more and more, but will also force them to rethink about this question.

I know there are people who agree with that. Who are disposed to do whatever is possible. Like those who maintain this forum.

 

[Efilismislife]

It blocks adrenaline

Beta blocker=beta-adrenergic receptor blocker.
well it actually meant to lower heart rate and blood pressure which is what the beta adrenergic receptor does
since adrenaline increases that

but its still different like how xanax(alprazolam) or diazepam, etc (benzo drugs) antidepressant anti anxiety drug does
Which alter your GABA receptor in the brain(calm you down)

i know this because im very familiar with all these drugs because of my health issue

so weird that propranolol should be given for anxiety. it's a blood pressure medication, not an anxiolytic

The interaction list can be hugeee,

• propranolol
• cimetidine
• midazolam
• diazepam
• haldol

https://reference.medscape.com/drug-interactionchecker

I'm not a doctor or pharmacist, but I think there are many more ways than we can imagine. We need more capable people to discuss, in a more practical way if possible, this issue.

Some people are not here for a personal method of chose only. This is a war. A battle between those they want control lives that are not even yours. If we show that there are many practical and peaceful ways to do this, we will not only limit them more and more, but will also force them to rethink about this question.

I know there are people who agree with that. Who are disposed to do whatever is possible. Like those who maintain this forum.

What do you mean by that?

 

[PArazi]

so weird that propranolol should be given for anxiety. it's a blood pressure medication, not an anxiolytic

Yo. It depends. There is physical and psychological anxiety. There is also panic, which is a higher level and produces more physical symptoms. You can even piss/shit your pants. There is nothing wrong with using medications to counter these symptoms.

Antidepressants can be used to quit smoking, pee in bed, premature ejaculation, regulate sleep, humor, chronic pain, increase appetite. They are trying to cure AIDS with drugs they are already on the market.

What do you mean by that?

Hi, bro. Not much, but about what? Interaction? Interaction does not mean acting on the same receptor. Marijuana interacts with benzos. How? Both can increase sedation. Amt and benz interacts, both increase sedation.

If u have low quantity of medication and want its effect to increase/stay longer in the bloodstream, does not make any sense for you, for example, to occupy as much that possible the enzyme responsible for metabolizing this drug? To me it seems a simple question, and of course, it deserves more study and discussion, "clinical data". You don't have to be a cardiopath, I am too. class ll-lll. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. I'm here to discuss and I know we have a lot to learn.

 

[Efilismislife]

I already know about drugs interaction but meant whats all this got to do with the thread topic about propanolol to ctb

Because many sources have disproved that method

Let alone water blackout with drugs&alcohol that is more plausible


(Although im still questioning that and not completely agree with it)

Yo. It depends. There is physical and psychological anxiety. There is also panic, which is a higher level and produces more physical symptoms. You can even piss/shit your pants. There is nothing wrong with using medications to counter these symptoms.

Antidepressants can be used to quit smoking, pee in bed, premature ejaculation, regulate sleep, humor, chronic pain, increase appetite. They are trying to cure AIDS with drugs they are already on the market.


Hi, bro. Not much, but about what? Interaction? Interaction does not mean acting on the same receptor. Marijuana interacts with benzos. How? Both can increase sedation. Amt and benz interacts, both increase sedation.

If u have low quantity of medication and want its effect to increase/stay longer in the bloodstream, does not make any sense for you, for example, to occupy as much that possible the enzyme responsible for metabolizing this drug? To me it seems a simple question, and of course, it deserves more study and discussion, "clinical data". You don't have to be a cardiopath, I am too. class ll-lll. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. I'm here to discuss and I know we have a lot to learn.

 

[PArazi]

Because many sources have disproved that method

Let alone water blackout with drugs&alcohol that is more plausible

But that's what he says he has at the moment. And I don't want to discourage him. Just as I wouldn't want to encourage him either. There are worse ways to try, i think. Would it be better use sn? Yes, i think.

(sry about my english)

People keep saying, use this, use that. Everyone knows their reality better than anyone else. Here in Brazil they only think about sn (really good method), and we definitely have access to things that could be MUCH better. "Black market". Yesterday someone asked me about paracetamol(Tylenol)... I said I couldn't help....

They keep saying "this is not there" "they don't recommend such a thing" Can't we do better? If we think that we are here for a greater purpose, and we find the right people to discuss these issues, I say we can do better, at least to some point.... Do we have to be careful and responsible? Yes, but we also have to discuss more. Its pharmacology.... It's not quantum physics in Chinese :D

 

[Sunset Limited]

The effects of overdose with beta-blockers are specific. It is uncertain whether it will typically result in cardiac arrest following bradycardia. It can trigger many arrhythmias. Such as VT and VF following 1, 2, and third degree AV block. It can take a very long time until you are unconscious and can be quite uncomfortable. That's why a sedative is a good idea. The probability of vomiting is very high.

 

[Cantbereal]

Propranolol is a beta blocker to decrease heart rate, so I think yes it can be used in suicide.

Here's what I learn from google:

1. Minimum 6gram in 150ml liquid,
2. Lose consciousness in half an hour
3. Death in 9 hours, very long time so better not to be found because hospitals have the antidote.
4. There's a survival case of 5gram ingestion and *getting found*.

I would suggest combination with benzos and anti emetic might be better. I have no idea if it can make you feel high as I have never consume it.

Physician successful suicide with propranolol https://europepmc.org/article/med/28691951

What do you think the pink liquid they found was? Interesting article.

 

[Euthanza]

What do you think the pink liquid they found was? Interesting article.

It comes in many shapes, names and colors but pink is common

 

[Efilismislife]

@Euthanza
@Drinkwater77
propranolol is easy to get and no prescription needed, very cheap
(Ive done it)
Can order many boxes

but im not sure is this method reliable?
And painless?
though i think if combining methods it can work?

like with benzo xanax(but need high dosage maybe?) Its not easy to get hundreds of pills tho.
And like with vodka(but afraid of puking, maybe take anti emetic...dont know how much effective to stop&prevent) or/also like plastic bag...

 

[Euthanza]

@Euthanza
@Drinkwater77
propranolol is easy to get and no prescription needed, very cheap
(Ive done it)
Can order many boxes

but im not sure is this method reliable?
And painless?
though i think if combining methods it can work?

like with benzo xanax(but need high dosage maybe?) Its not easy to get hundreds of pills tho.
And like with vodka(but afraid of puking, maybe take anti emetic...dont know how much effective to stop&prevent) or/also like plastic bag...

Yes, I already bought a strip without prescription.

I think it's more reliable than benzos, as you can see the dose for each pill is 40mg (means 250 pills ~ 10g), unlike xanax 2mg (means 5k pills ~ 10g).

I don't know why propranolol is not popular, even PPeH only mentioned it as compliment for other substances. I can't tell how peaceful it is but I'd like to keep it in mind as alternative.