Method Propranolol method - yes or no?

[Kera]

Hello,

i have done a lot of research on propranolol and apparently propranolol alone or in combination can be very lethal in large overdoses. I currently have 24 g of propranolol and 5 g of amitriptyline, as well as domperidone, 2.5 g of diphenhydramine, and 2 mg of lorazepam, which I think should be enough, considering that others have died with much weaker doses. Does anyone have personal experience or other information that I may not be aware of? My biggest fear is how I will fare after the overdose and fear of failure.

LG

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I suggest you have a look into the researched ODs in the PPeH, you seem to have some of the necessary ingredients already.

 

[Kera]

I suggest you have a look into the researched ODs in the PPeH, you seem to have some of the necessary ingredients already.

Thank you very much! But unfortunately I have no way :(

 

[Praestat_Mori]

But unfortunately I have no way :(

No way for the PPeH? You find the link in the Suicide Resource Compilation.

 

[befree]

If you want to use drugs, better use a proven guide, such as...

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Chloroquine guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Chloroquine "General info Chloroquine is a drug used for the treatment and prophylaxis of malaria and for the treatment of rheumatic diseases. Cause of death in case of...

sanctioned-suicide.net

related thread:

hypothermia with drugs

Im just gonna wait until its freezing winter, take oxy and ketamine and go lie down in snowy forest at night, can somebody just assure its gonna be fine and work, i just cant take this anymore it cant be that hard right, people die from it accidentally all the time

sanctioned-suicide.net

This is just a general information. I do not encourage you to commit suicide and to use these methods. You act on your own responsibility.

 

[Kera]

No way for the PPeH? You find the link in the Suicide Resource Compilation.

I was able to download "Peaceful Pill eHandbook Essentials Edition (April 2022) - latest edition" but was unable to find anything about propranolol. Ami I only wanted to take as a booster because it would take me too long. The other links don't work - website down.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I was able to download "Peaceful Pill eHandbook Essentials Edition (April 2022) - latest edition" but was unable to find anything about propranolol. Ami I only wanted to take as a booster because it would take me too long. The other links don't work - website down.

This works: https://bunkrr.su/d/PPeH_April_2022-FcRmORJl.pdf

 

[Kera]

If you want to use drugs, better use a proven guide, such as...

Amitriptyline guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Amitriptyline guide "Tricyclic antidepressants General info Tricyclic antidepressants are psychotropic drugs with a general mood-lifting...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Chloroquine guide

Translation from German "Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid (German Edition) Jessica Düber Chloroquine "General info Chloroquine is a drug used for the treatment and prophylaxis of malaria and for the treatment of rheumatic diseases. Cause of death in case of...

sanctioned-suicide.net

related thread:

hypothermia with drugs

Im just gonna wait until its freezing winter, take oxy and ketamine and go lie down in snowy forest at night, can somebody just assure its gonna be fine and work, i just cant take this anymore it cant be that hard right, people die from it accidentally all the time

sanctioned-suicide.net

This is just a general information. I do not encourage you to commit suicide and to use these methods. You act on your own responsibility.

Thank you very much! Ami I did not want to choose as the main substance, because it just takes me too long and I have only dragées, which should not be crushed. I can't get my hands on chloroquine. And about hydroxychloroquine there is too little experience also according to Jessica Düber in her book "Selbstbestimmt Sterben mit Hydroxychloroquin".
SN is too uncertain for me that I could do something wrong.
It is damn hard to find a suitable method for oneself. Hanging, jumping, drowning, suffocating, etc. It's all too cruel for me!!!

 

[befree]

I agree with you about SN and the other mentioned methods.
Here you can find an overview of other common methods:

Need Ideas

New here, sorry if I'm doing this wrong LOL. Anyways, my preferred method until lately has been firearm, but I'm in a bit of a predicament. I'm aware that if I do so, because I have access to them because of my father that my mother and her family will go after him and try to charge him for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Some of the download links don´t work anymore. Let me know if you want me to upload those books again. I have more books in other languages.

 

[Kera]

I agree with you about SN and the other mentioned methods.
Here you can find an overview of other common methods:

Need Ideas

New here, sorry if I'm doing this wrong LOL. Anyways, my preferred method until lately has been firearm, but I'm in a bit of a predicament. I'm aware that if I do so, because I have access to them because of my father that my mother and her family will go after him and try to charge him for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Some of the download links don´t work anymore. Let me know if you want me to upload those books again. I have more books in other languages.

My native language is German.

Unfortunately no pdf file works: The file you are looking for does not exist.

I know the book "Ways to a humane and self-determined death". That's why I have 20g of hydroxychloroquin, but I've become unsure.
CO2 method is not possible.
You go to so much trouble!!! And I am so picky.

Isn't the propranolol method a proven method???

 

[befree]

I will send you new download links tomorrow (books in English and German). There is no CO2 method, it´s CO (carbon monoxid).

 

[Kera]

I will send you new download links tomorrow (books in English and German). There is no CO2 method, it´s CO (carbon monoxid).

That's so love of you, thank you very much :)

 

[Kera]

Sorry, me again! You don't need to send me the last three files for SN, CO, Oxycodone and Fentanyl.

Also, is there a guide for propranolol method from PPH in an older edition???

I will send you new download links tomorrow (books in English and German). There is no CO2 method, it´s CO (carbon monoxid).

 

[befree]

epub:

Guide to a Humane Self-Chosen Death 2009 (Admiraal Pieter) (z-lib.org).epub - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

pdf:

Guide to Self-Chosen and Humane Death 2006.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Dignified Dying by Boudewjin Chabot (z-lib.org).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmtes Sterben Sanfter Tod bei klarem Geist (Suizid) (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmt Sterben DIE HELIUM - METHODE.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmt Sterben Die Carotis - Methode.pdf - AnonFiles

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SUIZID Selbstbestimmt sterben - Anleitung fr einen klugen Tod - Streitschrift und Argument (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Der sanfte Tod 2019_2020 www.sterbenduerfen.de Auch in folgenden Sprachen Englisch - Niederlndis--h ... - Spanisch - Portugiesisch (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

you asked for an older PPH:

Die Friedliche Pille (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

You can use deepl.com to translate the english books.

 

[Kera]

epub:

Guide to a Humane Self-Chosen Death 2009 (Admiraal Pieter) (z-lib.org).epub - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

pdf:

Guide to Self-Chosen and Humane Death 2006.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Dignified Dying by Boudewjin Chabot (z-lib.org).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmtes Sterben Sanfter Tod bei klarem Geist (Suizid) (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmt Sterben - Handreichung für einen rationalen Suizid.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmt Sterben DIE HELIUM - METHODE.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Selbstbestimmt Sterben Die Carotis - Methode.pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

SUIZID Selbstbestimmt sterben - Anleitung fr einen klugen Tod - Streitschrift und Argument (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

Der sanfte Tod 2019_2020 www.sterbenduerfen.de Auch in folgenden Sprachen Englisch - Niederlndis--h ... - Spanisch - Portugiesisch (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

you asked for an older PPH:

Die Friedliche Pille (German Edition).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfiles.com

You can use deepl.com to translate the english books.

I tried to download a file, but I can't get anywhere because of the advertising liability insurance.... My laptop is currently broken. With the cell phone the possibilities are limited...

I tried to download a file, but I can't get anywhere because of the advertising liability insurance.... My laptop is currently broken. With the cell phone the possibilities are limited...

I'll keep trying...

 

[Kera]

Do you mean an ad blocker (German: Werbeblocker) ?

Yes, I can't push that one away. Despite my settings.

 

[befree]

Yes, I can't push that one away. Despite my settings.

Just change the settings.

 

[Kera]

I suggest you have a look into the researched ODs in the PPeH, you seem to have some of the necessary ingredients already.

Thank you very much! I could not find anything in the English edition about propranolol as sole use. It looks like there is just too little info about it!?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Thank you very much! I could not find anything in the English edition about propranolol as sole use. It looks like there is just too little info about it!?

yes I noticed that, too. It's as side medication mentioned in the SN procedure. I think I mixed that. I'm sorry. Well anyway whatever you do is your own decision. I personally would only follow proven guides.

 

[Kera]

Just change the settings.

I had already done that. But I don't have the latest smartphone either. Maybe that's the reason.

 

[befree]

A fatal case of propranolol poisoning - PubMed

Propranolol hydrochloride is a beta-adrenergic blocking drug used in a variety of clinical conditions. Overdoses can result in severe hypotensive states usually associated with bradycardia or asystole or with profound myocardial depression. We report on an 18-year-old man who ingested a massive...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

1456 Fatal propranolol overdoses reported to the UK National Poisons Information Service (NPIS) over 5 years 01/01/2017–31/12/2021 | Emergency Medicine Journal

Massive Propranolol Overdose

Massive propranolol overdose is perhaps one of the most challenging overdoses to manage. In 2009 we posted a case we had. We have progressed in our

resus.com.au

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bcpt.13231

Propanolol Overdose

aka Toxicology Conundrum 044 A 27-year old female weighing 60kg presents to ED approximately one hour after swallowing 70 x 40mg propranolol tablets (= 2.8 grams) with suicidal intent. At the time of assessment she is drowsy (GCS 13) with a heart rate of 46 bpm and BP 100/60. Fifteen minutes...

litfl.com

"Any ingested dose of propranolol > 1 g is considered to be potentially lethal."


This is for your information only, but not a recommendation.

 

[Kera]

yes I noticed that, too. It's as side medication mentioned in the SN procedure. I think I mixed that. I'm sorry. Well anyway whatever you do is your own decision. I personally would only follow proven guides.

The availability of many chemicals/medicines has become increasingly restricted in recent years.
I only have these drugs as indicated and hydroxychloroquine. There is also less experience about HCQ than chloroquine. With SN, I am afraid of making mistakes when using it.
The risk of failed attempts may be less with SN and the proven methods. But without risk, suicide is only possible on demand.

A fatal case of propranolol poisoning - PubMed

Propranolol hydrochloride is a beta-adrenergic blocking drug used in a variety of clinical conditions. Overdoses can result in severe hypotensive states usually associated with bradycardia or asystole or with profound myocardial depression. We report on an 18-year-old man who ingested a massive...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

1456 Fatal propranolol overdoses reported to the UK National Poisons Information Service (NPIS) over 5 years 01/01/2017–31/12/2021 | Emergency Medicine Journal

Massive Propranolol Overdose

Massive propranolol overdose is perhaps one of the most challenging overdoses to manage. In 2009 we posted a case we had. We have progressed in our

resus.com.au

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bcpt.13231

Propanolol Overdose

aka Toxicology Conundrum 044 A 27-year old female weighing 60kg presents to ED approximately one hour after swallowing 70 x 40mg propranolol tablets (= 2.8 grams) with suicidal intent. At the time of assessment she is drowsy (GCS 13) with a heart rate of 46 bpm and BP 100/60. Fifteen minutes...

litfl.com

"Any ingested dose of propranolol > 1 g is considered to be potentially lethal."


This is for your information only, but not a recommendation.

Thank you very much for taking the time again. Many people are reluctant to publish information on lethal doses. Nevertheless, I was able to learn that the optimal dose varies between 8g and 16g.
I have some hope with propranolol, because Amor's girlfriend, and presumably Amor hirself, have managed it.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

The availability of many chemicals/medicines has become increasingly restricted in recent years.
I only have these drugs as indicated and hydroxychloroquine. There is also less experience about HCQ than chloroquine. With SN, I am afraid of making mistakes when using it.
The risk of failed attempts may be less with SN and the proven methods. But without risk, suicide is only possible on demand.


Thank you very much for taking the time again. Many people are reluctant to publish information on lethal doses. Nevertheless, I was able to learn that the optimal dose varies between 8g and 16g.
I have some hope with propranolol, because Amor's girlfriend, and presumably Amor hirself, have managed it.

Unfortunately it becomes more difficult. It's up to you whether you want to try or not. I'm sorry I can't help any further here.

 

[Kera]

Unfortunately it becomes more difficult. It's up to you whether you want to try or not. I'm sorry I can't help any further here.

You tried, I appreciate that :) I think most of the failed attempts also have to do with finding the victim prematurely. Or with vomiting. Or with too low a dose. Or with SN mistakes being made.

 

[gbi2]

I tried propranolol ODing last year and failed. I had almost 6 boxes of 28x40mg and took them with 24-48 paracetamol, 24 aspirin and 14 Ranitidine. I went to bed expecting to not wake up but had a horrifying night, possibly 24 hours. I think I OD'd on a Saturday, but it could have been Friday, and it was Sunday morning around 10am when an ambulance took me to hospital.

I experienced horrifying dreams and/or hallucinations and lost the feeling in my legs. 8-24 hours of my life were spent with me believing people were messing with me before killing me and stealing my car and belongings. I ended up in hospital indirectly due to the overdose because, unable to stand properly I stumbled and fell hitting the floor face first and I needed stitches in my lip, I almost broke my nose, swallowed a lot of blood, almost knocked both my front teeth out, had two black eyes and a bad graze across my forehead where I had slid as I hit the floor.

The reason I survived, as I saw when I returned from hospital, is because I vomited in my sleep. I was still struggling to walk after being discharged and almost got hit by cars a couple of times walking home because I kept falling into the road. People must have thought I was drunk. I remember looking at the clock after being in bed for just over an hour and wondering why I had only experienced a brief moment of feeling relaxed and like my heart was slowed right down.

I don't think anyone at the hospital believed I had taken the overdose and I don't recall anyone speaking to me about it or doing and checks to me to verify it. Most of the day was spent with me waiting for the X-ray results to come back to verify no internal damage.

 

[Kera]

I tried propranolol ODing last year and failed. I had almost 6 boxes of 28x40mg and took them with 24-48 paracetamol, 24 aspirin and 14 Ranitidine. I went to bed expecting to not wake up but had a horrifying night, possibly 24 hours. I think I OD'd on a Saturday, but it could have been Friday, and it was Sunday morning around 10am when an ambulance took me to hospital.

I experienced horrifying dreams and/or hallucinations and lost the feeling in my legs. 8-24 hours of my life were spent with me believing people were messing with me before killing me and stealing my car and belongings. I ended up in hospital indirectly due to the overdose because, unable to stand properly I stumbled and fell hitting the floor face first and I needed stitches in my lip, I almost broke my nose, swallowed a lot of blood, almost knocked both my front teeth out, had two black eyes and a bad graze across my forehead where I had slid as I hit the floor.

The reason I survived, as I saw when I returned from hospital, is because I vomited in my sleep. I was still struggling to walk after being discharged and almost got hit by cars a couple of times walking home because I kept falling into the road. People must have thought I was drunk. I remember looking at the clock after being in bed for just over an hour and wondering why I had only experienced a brief moment of feeling relaxed and like my heart was slowed right down.

I don't think anyone at the hospital believed I had taken the overdose and I don't recall anyone speaking to me about it or doing and checks to me to verify it. Most of the day was spent with me waiting for the X-ray results to come back to verify no internal damage.

Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
What happened to you was intense. I am so sorry
Are you feeling better now?
The thing is that not all drugs and drug cocktails are suitable for suicide. Often they only have a toxic effect, but not a lethal one.
With us you would certainly have ended up in the psychiatric ward!?

 

[gbi2]

Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
What happened to you was intense. I am so sorry
Are you feeling better now?
The thing is that not all drugs and drug cocktails are suitable for suicide. Often they only have a toxic effect, but not a lethal one.
With us you would certainly have ended up in the psychiatric ward!?

Thank you. As you say, I think it would have been better if I'd had not mixed the drugs but although I knew I was going to take them all one day, in the moment I just took everything I could find, well, except what I dropped. I found a couple of them under the sofa a few weeks ago. Shows how often I clean!

I'm not better though no. I wanted to be gone this weekend. I've just lost my job because I spoke up about being mistreated. I don't think I can go into another job now because I've lost all trust in people. I keep trying the nighty-night method but can't get it right unless I just use one hand. The only upside for me is I'm here alone so there is no chance of me being interrupted as no-one will know until people realise I'm not paying the bills.. It could be weeks before any alarm bells start ringing with anyone so if I can pull a method off I'll be good. I don't want to do a jump though because I want to feel like I'll go unnoticed, without fuss.

But yeah, I think mixing the drugs like I did was silly and I should have just taken the propranolol on it's own.

 

[Kera]

Thank you. As you say, I think it would have been better if I'd had not mixed the drugs but although I knew I was going to take them all one day, in the moment I just took everything I could find, well, except what I dropped. I found a couple of them under the sofa a few weeks ago. Shows how often I clean!

I'm not better though no. I wanted to be gone this weekend. I've just lost my job because I spoke up about being mistreated. I don't think I can go into another job now because I've lost all trust in people. I keep trying the nighty-night method but can't get it right unless I just use one hand. The only upside for me is I'm here alone so there is no chance of me being interrupted as no-one will know until people realise I'm not paying the bills.. It could be weeks before any alarm bells start ringing with anyone so if I can pull a method off I'll be good. I don't want to do a jump though because I want to feel like I'll go unnoticed, without fuss.

But yeah, I think mixing the drugs like I did was silly and I should have just taken the propranolol on it's own.

A real dilemma. From the frying pan into the fire.
If you had only taken propranolol, then 1.12g would also be too little!
Yes, "would have, would have" then I wouldn't be lingering here now either and would have had a happy life.
Unfortunately, we can't turn back the clock

 

[Xdyzine]

I tried twice is propanolol 5g and 10g thought it would've been sufficient.
Couldn't move or walk for a day, something went wrong with CNS. And was hallucinations the whole time. Scary ordeal would not recommend.
Personal experience

 

[Kera]

I tried twice is propanolol 5g and 10g thought it would've been sufficient.
Couldn't move or walk for a day, something went wrong with CNS. And was hallucinations the whole time. Scary ordeal would not recommend.
Personal experience

My apologies for overlooking your post! Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us.
What happened to you is really scary I'm so sorry!!!
The fact is, the dose was not enough. Although there are cases that 6g was enough for a lethal dose, it is not known if there were other drugs involved. There were also failed attempts with 18g of propranolol. It all makes you so uncertain...