Propane Gas + Exit Bag Investigation (artickle)

[sepetuk4s]

So i found this artickle i want to share with you . ( adding it as a file below) ... It's about two men 19 year old and 45 year old discovered after killing themselfes with Propane Tanks and Plastic Bags.
Seems same way like using a Helium or Nitrogen or Argon that's very popular on this forum. There is even megathread about inner gas and exit bag..
My question is : Would that work same way..? Would it also be painless...? Is there any dangers involved that would not make you choose PROPANE instead of Helium or Argon ?
Did my research..And seems like it's really complicated to get Pure Helium or Nitrogen nowadays for regular user... It mostly been sold to businesses only.
However Propane..You can get at any gas station..?
Thoughts..?
Article/Investigation below.

 

[yo_no_soy_el_pollo2]

Assuming you're using it indoors, that could be disastrous for other people in the same building or the building itself. And if your building caught on fire it could spread to neighbor's. If you were going to use that, to be responsible you'd have to have a way of expelling it outside instead of inside.

 

[sepetuk4s]

Assuming you're using it indoors, that could be disastrous for other people in the same building or the building itself. And if your building caught on fire it could spread to neighbor's. If you were going to use that, to be responsible you'd have to have a way of expelling it outside instead of inside.

Yeah i'm familiar with , and i would take all safety measures..But would it work just the same way...?

 

[yo_no_soy_el_pollo2]

Yeah i'm familiar with , and i would take all safety measures..But would it work just the same way...?

I found this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8113705/

"This method has been reported in the literature, but it remains unusual. Autopsy findings were consistent with a hypoxic event, and blood, brain, and lung tissue tested positive for propane by gas chromatography. Propane, while possessing some narcotic properties, causes death primarily by displacing oxygen in the atmosphere with resultant asphyxia."

The "narcotic" properties sound interesting. Other than the smell, maybe that would actually be good?

 

[sepetuk4s]

I found this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8113705/

"This method has been reported in the literature, but it remains unusual. Autopsy findings were consistent with a hypoxic event, and blood, brain, and lung tissue tested positive for propane by gas chromatography. Propane, while possessing some narcotic properties, causes death primarily by displacing oxygen in the atmosphere with resultant asphyxia."

The "narcotic" properties sound interesting. Other than the smell, maybe that would actually be good?

That's what i was thinking. I think it should do the trick just fine.

 

[sepetuk4s]

If i would use nasal cover..For not to feel the smell of Propane..And Inhale / Exhale through the mouth only...? Would that work the same way ..? And would use turned off car with exit bag... For others safety by using propane...?

I found this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8113705/

"This method has been reported in the literature, but it remains unusual. Autopsy findings were consistent with a hypoxic event, and blood, brain, and lung tissue tested positive for propane by gas chromatography. Propane, while possessing some narcotic properties, causes death primarily by displacing oxygen in the atmosphere with resultant asphyxia."

The "narcotic" properties sound interesting. Other than the smell, maybe that would actually be good?

If i would use nasal cover..For not to feel the smell of Propane..And Inhale / Exhale through the mouth only...? Would that work the same way ..? And would use turned off car with exit bag... For others safety by using propane...?

 

[Sunset Limited]

A medical school student in the country I live in CTB with this method.

 

[yo_no_soy_el_pollo2]

And would use turned off car with exit bag... For others safety by using propane...?

Propane, like argon is heavier than air. So if you did it in a car, it is going to sit at the bottom unless you left the door open. That could be very dangerous. If there is a spark, for example from someone opening the door either nicely or forcefully, it could ignite and seriously injure someone. If you left a couple of the doors open (not windows, as the windows are too high up), that _might_ be OK. I'm not sure how else to do that. You could try and make sure all the exhaust from the bag would go out another hose and put that out a window, but I don't know exactly how you could make it air tight. And even if you did come up with some sort of way of doing that, if somehow it failed and leaked out to the bottom of the car it could still be really bad. The only way I can see this being done safely is outdoors in an area away from things that would burn, like where there is only sand or rocks.

 

[sepetuk4s]

Propane, like argon is heavier than air. So if you did it in a car, it is going to sit at the bottom unless you left the door open. That could be very dangerous. If there is a spark, for example from someone opening the door either nicely or forcefully, it could ignite and seriously injure someone. If you left a couple of the doors open (not windows, as the windows are too high up), that _might_ be OK. I'm not sure how else to do that. You could try and make sure all the exhaust from the bag would go out another hose and put that out a window, but I don't know exactly how you could make it air tight. And even if you did come up with some sort of way of doing that, if somehow it failed and leaked out to the bottom of the car it could still be really bad. The only way I can see this being done safely is outdoors in an area away from things that would burn, like where there is only sand or rocks.

Why would opening the doors could create a spark …?

Why would opening the doors could create a spark …?

Also how long gas would stay in the car until they would " go away " ..?

 

[yo_no_soy_el_pollo2]

Why would opening the doors could create a spark …?

Metal contacting metal. Either in the mechanism, or if the door was locked and they were lock picking or using one of those metal jimmy devices. It just seems to big of a risk if you care about hurting other people.

 

[sepetuk4s]

Metal contacting metal. Either in the mechanism, or if the door was locked and they were lock picking or using one of those metal jimmy devices. It just seems to big of a risk if you care about hurting other people.

How long would it take for gas to " vape out" …?

 

[Ta555]

How long would it take for gas to " vape out" …?

Why do you have to do it inside the car? If you're going to do it miles away from any people just sit outside your car and that way the gas will just escape into the atmosphere.

 

[sepetuk4s]

Why do you have to do it inside the car? If you're going to do it miles away from any people just sit outside your car and that way the gas will just escape into the atmosphere.

Well i would like to be found eventually, and not to be missing for months while my family would wonder why i left them , while i would be sitting somewhere in a middle of a field being eaten by wild animals.

 

[Ta555]

Well i would like to be found eventually, and not to be missing for months while my family would wonder why i left them , while i would be sitting somewhere in a middle of a field being eaten by wild animals.

You don't have to sit in the middle of a field. Just sit outside your car, right next to it.