Postponed. Try to stop spazzing.

[veren4h92l]

Please don't let yourself get talked into taking these drugs. They will destroy your endocrine system forever.
You will never be able to feel empathetic for yourself and passionate for anything again.

Yes you will become a zombie - at your soul.
Bodychange won't even matter as much, though health is destroyed forever.
You will suffer endlessly, no one believes you anything anymore, because you once let happen to agree with psych drugs - it's a pretence to . kill . people. slowly . without . ever . be . engaged . with . their . actual . problem . by the so-called social system.

If you sympathize with 'autism' as an idea maybe you could find yourself a more safe way to explore, maybe look out for selfhelp groups, new friends, other normal people with issues?
I feel for you especially if you're a woman. you deserve better, no dingy psychiatric preying at your mental sanity (your first post says it all).

 

[Defenestrator]

@Defenestrator, hearing that you have to take an antidepressant raised a red flag. I'd like to address it if okay.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you are not in any kind of institution. Therefore, I don't see that anyone has the legal power to force you to take either antidepressant.

It sounds like your GP is on the psychiatrist's side and they each are pulling a power trip on you.

I suggest there are other supports for ASD - forums, therapists, other psychiatrists who may take a different approach. One psychiatrist said you do not have a choice, but that is only one person in a field of many.

Also, I'm unclear from your post title and the conclusion of your post. Had you decided to ctb but changed your mind because diagnosis and/or the meds suggest there may be an alternative solution to ctb? The conclusion suggests your response to taking meds is that ctb is a fuck you to being forced to take them.

My point is that the psychiatrist's demand and the agreement of the doctor seem to have negated your autonomy and right to self-determination with regard to meds and your own well-being. I am suggesting you do have the right, you do have autonomy, and, unless there are circumstances outside my knowledge, you are empowered to become more educated and explore other options and providers rather than taking the "zombie-making" meds. It is your choice not to, and it is your legal right. Am I incorrect about that?

Yeah, I think it was implied (not explicitly stated) that, while I do have a choice, my choosing to not take them will put my life at risk and they'll probably have no choice but to make me by having me sectioned. Again, that's an implication as the only way to force someone to accept medication in the UK is via the mental health act.

Please don't let yourself get talked into taking these drugs. They will destroy your endocrine system forever.
You will never be able to feel empathetic for yourself and passionate for anything again.

Yes you will become a zombie - at your soul.
Bodychange won't even matter as much, though health is destroyed forever.
You will suffer endlessly, no one believes you anything anymore, because you once let happen to agree with psych drugs - it's a pretence to . kill . people. slowly . without . ever . be . engaged . with . their . actual . problem . by the so-called social system.

If you sympathize with 'autism' as an idea maybe you could find yourself a more safe way to explore, maybe look out for selfhelp groups, new friends, other normal people with issues?
I feel for you especially if you're a woman. you deserve better, no dingy psychiatric preying at your mental sanity (your first post says it all).

I am worried about this, but I feel that if there is even a small part of me that wants to try and live this may be my only chance.
As someone has already said - if I plan to ctb anyway; what is there to lose?

I'd flip that doc the bird and ask about starting with Wellbutrin. Lexapro + me = only time I've experienced true mania in my life. Sertraline was better but zombifying

I'm not sure wellbutrin is prescribed here for issues like mine. I've only heard of it being used for smoking cessation?

 

[EndItNorth]

My years of experience with anti-depressants is that most don't work, some give relief but then completely stop working after a couple of months or two years, and some, the side-effects are so bad, staying on them is more problematic than it's worth. Then of course there is the cost and what the insurance companies will allow you to take. If you have a good Doc, stick with them! Sounds as though you are up for the good fight. I wish you lots of luck!

 

[Quarky00]

If you have time and space to try , then do try

As mentioned demand a more attentive care . I ended up shouting at docs to get proper care . Useless bunch .

Friend of mine recently moved from SSRI to SNRI. Very alarmed first 2 weeks and wanted to stop. Their mom pressured them to conitnue, and they are doing better. Had they lived alone they would have stopped all meds. This scenario is very common (almost a cliche).

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Yeah I mean, drugs worked for me for years. Then they failed, unrelated to my life went to shit

Also, I have autism and it makes life not worth living, but some retards think that life can be good with autism

 

[Jean4]

Yeah I mean, drugs worked for me for years. Then they failed, unrelated to my life went to shit

Also, I have autism and it makes life not worth living, but some retards think that life can be good with autism

People with autism are highly intelligent and creative. Most musicians have some form of autism. My favorite musician who I am a huge fan girl of, and I consider a musical genius is autistic. ;)

 

[ctbUniquectb]

People with autism are highly intelligent and creative. Most musicians have some form of autism. My favorite musician who I am a huge fan girl of, and I consider a musical genius is autistic. ;)

Yawn that's bullshit I didn't get shit for superpowers

People with autism are highly intelligent and creative. Most musicians have some form of autism. My favorite musician who I am a huge fan girl of, and I consider a musical genius is autistic. ;)

Like all respect for your status here, but autism makes people dislike me and cheated me of the opportunity at any life remotely worth living. Besides that, intellect never helped so there's like 50% chance I'm popping myself tonight and 100% in the next week. (edit: because of the blight of autism)

 

[Jean4]

Yawn that's bullshit I didn't get shit for superpowers

Actually, it's true. You can believe what you want. Or, you can Google, do research, and prove what I say is false.

Actually, it's true. You can believe what you want. Or, you can Google, do research, and prove what I say is false.

Oh look. Took me 10 seconds

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Actually, it's true. You can believe what you want. Or, you can Google, do research, and prove what I say is false.

It's in spite of not because of their autism, but hey preach to me about my horrifying subjective experience.

Is anyone running around saying missing a leg is an advantage, or having HIV or IQ 70? No: those are crippling disabilities as is getting called a flaming fucking faggot by your entire family and peer group for having autism, and having no access to women.

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

Yeah I mean, drugs worked for me for years. Then they failed, unrelated to my life went to shit

Also, I have autism and it makes life not worth living, but some retards think that life can be good with autism

I mean it can definitely suck sometimes, but there are some aspects that I like and that I think make me a little more unique of a person because I have it.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Actually, it's true. You can believe what you want. Or, you can Google, do research, and prove what I say is false.

Oh look. Took me 10 seconds

That really fails to negate my point and is this typical (past decade) normie logic that autism is something to be celebrated when it just fucking isn't. Like I said, no one is running out to shoot up with HIV blood or chop off a leg. Disabilities by definition make life worth living even if you happen to be a good musician in spite of them, not because of them. Like, you're cool with me but your argument is one that I've heard over 9000 times and is as false as it is insulting.

I mean it can definitely suck sometimes, but there are some aspects that I like and that I think make me a little more unique of a person because I have it.

Fuck being unique I want to not be despised for existing

 

[Jean4]

It's in spite of not because of their autism, but hey preach to me about my horrifying subjective experience.

Is anyone running around saying missing a leg is an advantage, or having HIV or IQ 70? No: those are crippling disabilities as is getting called a flaming fucking faggot by your entire family and peer group for having autism, and having no access to women.

Actually yes. People I work with do openly admit they are HIV/AIDS and have done PSA. Not to mention, I have been very open (being in the public eye) regarding my issues, suicide attempts etc. ;). Advantage? No. It's a part of life. You can deal with it or not.

Oh. 99.9 percent of those who I work with are gay, drag queens, or trans.

I am sorry about your issues and problems. Factually, however, it's not true.

 

[Defenestrator]

I can relate to the not being liked by many people - for me it's usually other women; I think it's because of my inability to adapt to social situations so well, and I miss a lot of social cues.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Actually yes. People I work with do openly admit they are HIV/AIDS and have done PSA. Not to mention, I have been very open (being in the public eye) regarding my issues, suicide attempts etc. ;)

Oh. 99.9 percent of those who I work with are gay, drag queens, or trans.

I am sorry about your issues and problems. Factually, however, it's not true.

You're misreading me: are they calling AIDS an advantage?

I can relate to the not being liked by many people - for me it's usually other women; I think it's because of my inability to adapt to social situations so well, and I miss a lot of social cues.

Yup, which makes life at the very least less worth living, if not to the point of not worth living at all. Quad erat demostrandum

 

[Quarky00]

Still waiting for rebuttal .

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Still waiting for rebuttal .

I was too but experiences teaches the wait indicates when someone has been

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[Quarky00]

was not waiting for rebuttal but reflecting on nature of the play. bit aggressive there ; patience is virtue

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Getting told being a cripple is a good thing brings out the aggression in me

 

[Quarky00]

That sounds offensive, and a serious trigger. Very sorry about that. Anyway a person here, suffering much like you, merely showed respect and appreciation to the talents and high abilities of those on the autism spectrum, despite the crippling condition.

So you don't agree that you are intelligent ?

 

[ctbUniquectb]

@ctb that sounds offensive, and a serious trigger. Very sorry about that. Anyway a person here, suffering much like you, merely showed respect and appreciation to the talents and high abilities of those on the autism spectrum, despite the crippling condition.

So you don't agree that you are intelligent ?

who gives a flying fuck that I'm intelligent

it only ever hurt, but not for much longer

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Well they can't force you to take the drugs... until they do, under a section. So maybe you have no choice and if it's your last chance saloon then what have you got to lose?
My experience of antidepressants. ..
Two weeks of side effects, always constipation, which gradually subside, four or five weeks to start feeling any benefit, IF you feel any benefit at all. Then they increase dosage and you get side effects again.
Now you are stuck on the medication. But eventually they either take you off it, after many months, or it poops out due to tolerance effects. Your brain will do its best to re establish what it thinks is the status quo, it won't produce these chemicals as much now on its own cus it's getting provided with them artificially. But tolerance effects tend to stop the drug working over time.
Then you have to withdraw and they may not advise you properly on how to do that. They'll start you on another drug, with new side effects, sometimes whilst you are still withdrawing from the old one. Double whammy.
And it goes round in circles.

However, when I first took prosac it changed my life. Everything became easy. No ocd no depression no anxiety. But that stopped after a few months and I was back how I was.

If you have the choice then research the drug and what to expect. It's a double edged sword. It may help but will come at a price. Is it a price work paying? Maybe it is if you are desperate.

I'm due to have an autism assess next week. I'm reluctant. I don't want another mh label so they can ignore my physical illness even more. I swear if I was having a heart attack they'd blame it on my mental health.

 

[Quarky00]

who gives a flying fuck that I'm intelligent
it only ever hurt, but not for much longer

You are in severe distress .
You can share that/anger (probably better in new thread) :)

 

[Defenestrator]

Well they can't force you to take the drugs... until they do, under a section. So maybe you have no choice and if it's your last chance saloon then what have you got to lose?
My experience of antidepressants. ..
Two weeks of side effects, always constipation, which gradually subside, four or five weeks to start feeling any benefit, IF you feel any benefit at all. Then they increase dosage and you get side effects again.
Now you are stuck on the medication. But eventually they either take you off it, after many months, or it poops out due to tolerance effects. Your brain will do its best to re establish what it thinks is the status quo, it won't produce these chemicals as much now on its own cus it's getting provided with them artificially. But tolerance effects tend to stop the drug working over time.
Then you have to withdraw and they may not advise you properly on how to do that. They'll start you on another drug, with new side effects, sometimes whilst you are still withdrawing from the old one. Double whammy.
And it goes round in circles.

However, when I first took prosac it changed my life. Everything became easy. No ocd no depression no anxiety. But that stopped after a few months and I was back how I was.

If you have the choice then research the drug and what to expect. It's a double edged sword. It may help but will come at a price. Is it a price work paying? Maybe it is if you are desperate.

I'm due to have an autism assess next week. I'm reluctant. I don't want another mh label so they can ignore my physical illness even more. I swear if I was having a heart attack they'd blame it on my mental health.

Thanks for the input - I've heard a lot of good things about prozac. It has an insanely long half life though which usually coincides with tolerance build up in most drugs, at least from what I've seen/read.

I just hope I can get actual therapy too, not just stuck on a waiting list for years and forced to take antidepressants. The antidepressants are supposed to be a temporary thing until you can sort out the real underlying issue(s) underneath, I thought? Seems the system is completely fucked.

 

[Polly]

I'd flip that doc the bird and ask about starting with Wellbutrin. Lexapro + me = only time I've experienced true mania in my life. Sertraline was better but zombifying

Yes Wellbutrin. Least side effects. Takes effect in around 2 weeks. Can really help.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

You are in severe distress .
You can share your anger (probably better in new thread).

It's fine. I was just typing out an apology, then I deleted it. I'm not going to CTB because I ripped someone's head off in chat too. I saw my psychiatrist today, and even he was like "holy shit bro, your life is going to be shit even if you win in court" (it's a case that the guys in chat know about)

My hernias, that the VA inflicted on me, have been in constant pain for months and months after I lost a bunch of money repairing them out of my own pocket and the pain is worsening. They hurt when I sit, stand, shit, cough, clear my throat and a couple of NSFW things, use your imagination.

I developed a tremor today, and my stomach has been upset to the point of nearly vomiting for about 24 hours straight. I also started having a hard time breathing about a week ago from stress about court.

Sooooo ... sorry to the OP for derailing, and I did say to jean4 a couple of times that my beef wasn't on her but her argument.

 

[Quarky00]

@ctbUniquectb , Horrible , complex. Not just autism then.. Glad you're venting. Sorry about short reply, respecting Defenestrator thread etc

 

[Defenestrator]

It's fine guys. But maybe a seperate thread would get more people contributing to your discussion as this one is pretty much past it and just me worrying about antidepressants.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

It's fine guys. But maybe a seperate thread would get more people contributing to your discussion as this one is pretty much past it and just me worrying about antidepressants.

No interest in my own thread

On SSRIs, I'm biased against but they work wonders for many. Other meds used to work for me, but I have a bad life so meds can't fix that.

If this is your first swing at meds, might as well try them.

If your life was fine before learning that the gods fucked you in the ass with the life-invalidation of autism, then pretend like you didn't know that you're a sperge.

 

[Nem]

Best of luck with the appointment and any meds. I cannot recommend anything pharmaceutical since it is an extremely corrupt industry
Peace/hugs

 

[enlightened_suicide]

I just went through this whole thread and I gotta say that plot twist through me for a loop lol

But in reference to medicine and anti-depressants, I've been on my fair share and I also agree that personally, it seems to work for me for a couple of months and then my body kicks up the tolerance boost and then they stop out of nowhere.. usually leading to mania and more often than not trips to the ward.
Bc in my experience doctors like to think that once they have got you to agree to the "little league meds" they decide to start telling you how they don't think the meds "are doing their job any longer" and want to switch up and most of the time it's like a pill roulette, and once they get comfy they decide to start throwing like 2-3 scripts at you at a time... all bc they get paid for every script they write.. and the more they give you and the stronger they are, every time they switch em on you they have a whole list of W/D symptoms // Side effects to scare you into taking *insert medicine name here* Big Pharma is just a business like anything else.
Think of Docs as used car salesman or TV Preachers next time they start throwing all these big names symptoms and "gut feelings illnesses" your way, at the very least take time and always do your research. :)