Positive attitudes towards life will always feel so wrong to me.

[FuneralCry]

Positive attitudes towards life disturb me, they don't have a place in such a world, how could anyone feel in a positive way with all of the endless cruelty and suffering that exists in this world and will always continue to exist as long as life does. The truth is that life will just get worse as time goes on, and can do beyond ways in which we can even imagine. We live in such a world where everything is unpredictable but the one thing that is guaranteed is suffering but we don't know the limits as to how awful things will get in the future.

But I do believe that the problems that humans go through increase as they get older. At any moment anyone could end up experiencing the most severe pain and at the end of the day all that humans are destined for is to get very old and then just deteriorate, likely dying slowly and painfully. Anything positive in life is a delusion and happiness doesn't exist.

There is no relief in this world and there could never be anything to feel positive about. If someone believes anything to be positive it will just get taken away from them and cause them to suffer more. To think positively about life means to be in denial about the harsh reality of this existence, but yet the reality is undeniable. Life is objectively so horrifying, it's a terrible unnecessary concept. I see no value in suffering and see it as something terrible to be avoided.

But anything positive associated with life just irritates me in general. People would soon stop saying positive things if they ended up experiencing extreme suffering. I just wish that there was some acceptance on the true horrifying nature of life and then we could have our peaceful exit legalised. No more people going through failed suicide attempts, no more struggles to leave. To die solves everything so of course it should be straightforward.

 

[Efilismislife]

how could anyone feel in a positive way with all of the endless cruelty and suffering that exists in this world and will always continue to exist as long as life does.

We live in such a world where everything is unpredictable but the one thing that is guaranteed is suffering but we don't know the limits as to how awful things will get in the future.

But I do believe that the problems that humans go through increase as they get older. At any moment anyone could end up experiencing the most severe pain and at the end of the day all that humans are destined for is to get very old and then just deteriorate, likely dying slowly and painfully.

Life is objectively so horrifying, it's a terrible unnecessary concept. I see no value in suffering and see it as something terrible to be avoided.

Even when people still in denial and taking copium they still automatically avoid suffering and release negative harmful chemical stress hormone when theyre suffering

People would soon stop saying positive things if they ended up experiencing extreme suffering.

I just wish that there was some acceptance on the true horrifying nature of life and then we could have our peaceful exit legalised. No more people going through failed suicide attempts, no more struggles to leave.

 

[777]

I wish it were true that happiness doesn't exist, but I see a lot of people that genuinely seem happy. Living virtuous, fruitful lives. Makes me feel like I did something wrong. Maybe I Associated with the wrong people, made poor decisions, gave up opportunities to aid in my own betterment. I've come to believe those who seem to not suffer from the exterior have an overall optimistic perception. They choose to not see the cruelty and suffering imposed on millions of people, and live in their own little world of bliss. That's the only way to actually be happy, be apathetic to the ones that have had pain inflicted upon them, and disregard them. We are more empathetic in the sense that we actually understand what suffering is and that it is so prevalent and constant in life. Same people who are happy are the same people who tell the starving, drug addicted, mentally ill homeless man to get off his ass and get a job from my experience.

 

[Darkover]

nothingness is unstable hence why we are all here but there should just be nothing in the first place

 

[resolutory]

I don't even mind people being happy, I think it's just a different mindset, what disturbs me is their lack of empathy for those that aren't.

 

[Efilismislife]

I wish it were true that happiness doesn't exist, but I see a lot of people that genuinely seem happy. Living virtuous, fruitful lives. Makes me feel like I did something wrong. Maybe I Associated with the wrong people, made poor decisions, gave up opportunities to aid in my own betterment. I've come to believe those who seem to not suffer from the exterior have an overall optimistic perception.

true but those arent happiness just temporary joy.

Humans are not designed to be happy, or even content. Instead, we are designed primarily to survive. Because even when all our material and biological needs are satisfied, a state of sustained happiness will still remain a theoretical and elusive goal.

The fact that evolution has prioritised the development of a big frontal lobe in our brain (which gives us excellent executive and analytical abilities) over a natural ability to be happy, tells us a lot about nature's priorities. In fact, experts in this field argue that nature's failure to weed out depression in the evolutionary process (despite the obvious disadvantages in terms of survival and reproduction) is due precisely to the fact that depression as an adaptation plays a useful role in times of adversity, by helping the depressed individual disengage from risky and hopeless situations in which he or she cannot win. Depressive ruminations can also have a problem solving function during difficult times. A state of contentment is discouraged by nature because it would lower our guard against possible threats to our survival.

They choose to not see the cruelty and suffering imposed on millions of people, and live in their own little world of bliss. That's the only way to actually be happy, be apathetic to the ones that have had pain inflicted upon them, and disregard them. We are more empathetic in the sense that we actually understand what suffering is and that it is so prevalent and constant in life.

Same people who are happy are the same people who tell the starving, drug addicted, mentally ill homeless man to get off his ass and get a job from my experience.

Sounds like a snob but its true

 

[CTB Dream]

Human soecies puppet chemic puppet indoctrination idea ,very rare one human free say life whole ok all illusion see rea way full suffer possible this cruel

 

[dreambound]

I wish it were true that happiness doesn't exist, but I see a lot of people that genuinely seem happy. Living virtuous, fruitful lives. Makes me feel like I did something wrong. Maybe I Associated with the wrong people, made poor decisions, gave up opportunities to aid in my own betterment. I've come to believe those who seem to not suffer from the exterior have an overall optimistic perception. They choose to not see the cruelty and suffering imposed on millions of people, and live in their own little world of bliss. That's the only way to actually be happy, be apathetic to the ones that have had pain inflicted upon them, and disregard them. We are more empathetic in the sense that we actually understand what suffering is and that it is so prevalent and constant in life. Same people who are happy are the same people who tell the starving, drug addicted, mentally ill homeless man to get off his ass and get a job from my experience.

a few months ago i saw a situation that was just as you described, i was walking along about 10metres behind a woman passed
a row of shops , & ahead of us was a man sitting in front of a shop window: he had a sign with a short message asking for help
& had a hat in front of him for coins. the woman in front of me stopped & verbally tore into this man, he didnt respond & after the lady had
finished with the verbal abuse , she continued walking,
everyones life experience differs & many cant grasp the reality of other peoples misfortune, & so situations like this happen. I agree with
the comments by 'funeral cry' & 'seeyounextyear' , the positivity is unrealistic, maybe the wealthy & privalaged hang on to this self-righteous
attitude as a means of self preservation...

 

[Chinaski]

Life is tough but dogs are great. They might not tip the balance, but anyone who says there is nothing positive about life has never fussed a puppy.

 

[TAW122]

I agree. Toxicity positivity is rampant around the world and overwhelms the amount of rational reality, while negative is addressing nature for it's true image. Nature is indeed cruel and life is just a pointless state of sentience that no one chose to experience but was imposed through no control of their own.

 

[Pluto]

Life is tough but dogs are great. They might not tip the balance, but anyone who says there is nothing positive about life has never fussed a puppy.

OP has already made a statement on this issue.

 

[makethepainstop]

How many positive well-meaning idiots cause pain and grief because they were thinking positively that things will get better? How many times do they tell others to keep your chin up good things are coming. After hearing this BS for more than 58 years, I have come to a conclusion, that those fools are either delusional or plain damn stupid. Life is not anything remotely like Disney Land, it is more like escape from NY. How many times have to been told it will get better, only to see things get far worse for you? After how many decades of hearing that crap, did it take to figure out that those people are full of it? When someone tells me to think positively, I want to slug them. It's also nice to tell them, "But I am positive, I'm positive it won't get better!"

 

[gomenasai]

I think if you have everything going for you one can feel better in their own bubble. Life is what you make of it and a positive mindset can often make you feel more happy. But what I don't understand is denial. There are many people suffering, but those who aren't often can't understand what it's like to be on the other side and think it's just their fault for not being positive.

 

[Chinaski]

OP has already made a statement on this issue.

Well, this is totally against type, l must say.

 

[Seiko]

I've always found it irritating how no amount of potential happiness can ever make up for the amount of potential misery. The capacity for pain will always outweigh pleasure. And even if you are a positive, always-energetic person—the world doesn't care. Your life can be permanently altered or ended in seconds by a random drunk driver, brain hemorrhage, heart attack, terminal illness, violent assault, mass shooting, etc. There is nothing out there keeping score of your good deeds.

 

[Anonymus]

It can be seen in different ways, focusing on yourself or focusing on humanity as a whole.

If you focus on yourself, life is nonsense and leads nowhere. If you focus attention on humanity as a whole you see that things really work, that some people live much better now than the most powerful 10,000 or 500 years ago. That we don't stop evolving and improving as a species (at the expense of the planet and losing common sense, hehe).

And this is the reality of the people who keep going, who know that probably 10,000 years from now life will be much better than now, even if it's on another planet... if we don't become extinct before then.

These are all viewpoints that we refuse to share with each other (I mean between the fortunate and the unfortunate).

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Es pot veure de diferents maneres, centran-te en tu mateix o centran-te en el conjunt de la humanitat.

Si et centres en tu mateix la vida es un disbarat i no porta enlloc. Si focalitzes l'atenció en el conjunt de la humanitat veus que la cosa funciona realment, que una part de la gent viu molt millor ara que els mes poderosos de fa 10000 anys o 500 anys. Que no parem de evolucionar i millorar com a espécie (a costa del planeta i de perdre el sentit comú, hehe).

I aquesta es la realitat de la gent que segueix endavant, que sap que probablement d'aquí 10000 anys es viurà molt millor que ara, encara que sigui en una altre planeta... si no ens em extingit abans.

Tot són punts de vista que ens neguem a compartir entre nosaltres (em refereixo entre els afortunats i els desgraciats).