DeadAtNight
Time to die
- Aug 16, 2022
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Felt. Although I identify as cis I struggle with dysphoric feelings as well. If I am reincarnated, I hope it's to a society where gender isn't dependent on biology, it's more complex than a lot of people want to believe. There have been societies like that in the past so hopefully there will be ones like that in the future.Probably nothing, but I hope for reincarnation. A fresh start to hopefully be born the right sex would be nice.
I hope so too, but for me, the gender dysphoria comes from a body issue I have :( Regardless, I hope for the best for the both of us.Felt. Although I identify as cis I struggle with dysphoric feelings as well. If I am reincarnated, I hope it's to a society where gender isn't dependent on biology, it's more complex than a lot of people want to believe. There have been societies like that in the past so hopefully there will be ones like that in the future.
are you assuming that if our consciousness could arise again, then there must be others identical to ours coexisting (because if something happens once, nothing prevents it from happening twice at the same time)? if so, then your way of thinking makes a lot of sense to meI used to think that reincarnation is possible… the thought that since we exist now seems that it would be plausible that we can once again. But then I guess the logic against this is why can't two consciousness of the same being exist at the same time…. Makes me feel like this is our one shot :/ .
If that makes any sense
If that's the case, then we should blow up Earth before people start to live on the moon or Marsi have no religion, but i may be inclined to think that we'll be reborn after death;
since we were born into this current life, maybe that is what happens everytime we die
i don't know though, but i hope there is nothing in the afterlife
Yes exactly. If we popped into existence, what is stopping that from happening simultaneously. Like two humans with one consciousness regardless of if they are born at the same time or whatever… leads me to believe that the specific organization of matter is clearly bound to one beingmost likely nothing, but reincarnation seems plausible from a logical context in which it is impossible for there to be "nothing", so it would be impossible for you to simply cease to exist.
are you assuming that if our consciousness could arise again, then there must be others identical to ours coexisting (because if something happens once, nothing prevents it from happening twice at the same time)? if so, then your way of thinking makes a lot of sense to me
How do you know that it is not happening simultaneously? What would that even look like? If reincarnation is the way of life then we would have to assume that we have already been a part of this system for many, if not infinite iterations. Yet, all we know of our own consciousness is bound by our memories in this life and this brain from our birth to our death. We know that our memories are bound to one body, because that is measurable. So if reincarnation does exist I think it's a fairly safe bet that in our next life we would not be aware of our consciousness in this life. For that same reason, I don't think you can conclude that consciousness cannot "co-exist" simultaneously.Yes exactly. If we popped into existence, what is stopping that from happening simultaneously. Like two humans with one consciousness regardless of if they are born at the same time or whatever… leads me to believe that the specific organization of matter is clearly bound to one being
Are you talking about the arcons e.g? What beings? The ones who use our lush on this earth for farming purposes?Our energy goes back to the earth, we blend with the source energy, and we are "reincarnated" without similar awareness into the beings that use our energy
No doubt there could be several things happening at once.How do you know that it is not happening simultaneously? What would that even look like? If reincarnation is the way of life then we would have to assume that we have already been a part of this system for many, if not infinite iterations. Yet, all we know of our own consciousness is bound by our memories in this life and this brain from our birth to our death. We know that our memories are bound to one body, because that is measurable. So if reincarnation does exist I think it's a fairly safe bet that in our next life we would not be aware of our consciousness in this life. For that same reason, I don't think you can conclude that consciousness cannot "co-exist" simultaneously.
That being said, I don't understand the glamour in the idea of reincarnation for this same reason. In the end, what differentiates this from a system where a new conciousness is created for each life? If we retain nothing from past lives, then its as if we are debating whether or not the system resets and reuses the same variables, or creates new ones. In the end, both systems behave the same way.
What I mean is if we can be born again and be self conscious, why would we have to die first to experience that. I mean I personally believe our consciousness is bound to our body and there isn't really a soul. That isn't to say one can not be born into existence as that has clearly happened. So reincarnation sounds possible because hey, we were born once what's to stop it from happening again. And I guess my only argument against it is why hasn't there ever been an occurrence where two people with the same consciousness (like one person controlling two minds being aware of themselves as two distinct bodies) ever existed. I pretty much think that because of the infinite randomness of the trillions of connections in the brain makes each individual unique and never to be repeated :/How do you know that it is not happening simultaneously? What would that even look like? If reincarnation is the way of life then we would have to assume that we have already been a part of this system for many, if not infinite iterations. Yet, all we know of our own consciousness is bound by our memories in this life and this brain from our birth to our death. We know that our memories are bound to one body, because that is measurable. So if reincarnation does exist I think it's a fairly safe bet that in our next life we would not be aware of our consciousness in this life. For that same reason, I don't think you can conclude that consciousness cannot "co-exist" simultaneously.
That being said, I don't understand the glamour in the idea of reincarnation for this same reason. In the end, what differentiates this from a system where a new conciousness is created for each life? If we retain nothing from past lives, then its as if we are debating whether or not the system resets and reuses the same variables, or creates new ones. In the end, both systems behave the same way.
That assumes consciousness doesn't exist elsewhere in the universe. The really messed up thing about that is some have theorized that the singularity that birthed the universe is an inevitable product of nothingness and that sentience is an inevitable product of a universe given sufficient time. Which means if consciousness is cyclical and the interval isn't perceived, then we are doomed to skip directly from one life to another forever. Ouch.If that's the case, then we should blow up Earth before people start to live on the moon or Mars
Felt. Although I identify as cis I struggle with dysphoric feelings as well. If I am reincarnated, I hope it's to a society where gender isn't dependent on biology, it's more complex than a lot of people want to believe.
There have been societies like that in the past so hopefully there will be ones like that in the future.