[Poll] If you had a realistic human robot. Would you be less likely to off yourself

[Thatdude]

I think one of the biggest reasons for people offing themselves is loneliness. I was wondering if a human like robot would fix this. Like let's say you had to spend $2k on a human like robot, or a $20 Google Home/Amazon Alexa. Both have the same ai, as both you can have real full conversation with as if you were talking to a human with emotions. The robot isn't made for sex, but can do that like a normal human. But the robot can act/feel like cuddling and what not. The robot will obviously have functional use like cleaning and what not.

Would this be enough to keep you from offing yourself? If so, which one would be enough (just someone to talk to or more)?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I think one of the biggest reasons for people offing themselves is loneliness. I was wondering if a human like robot would fix this. Like let's say you had to spend $2k on a human like robot, or a $20 Google Home/Amazon Alexa. Both have the same ai, as both you can have real full conversation with as if you were talking to a human with emotions. The robot isn't made for sex, but can do that like a normal human. But the robot can act/feel like cuddling and what not. The robot will obviously have functional use like cleaning and what not.

Would this be enough to keep you from offing yourself? If so, which one would be enough (just someone to talk to or more)?

We already have AI that can pass the Turing test. Googles deep learning AI could potentially accomplish this feat. So the technology is already technically there it's just not been packaged in this manner yet.

For me personally it still just wouldn't be the same though. I'd always have the knowledge in the back of my mind that it was just a robot. The first time it malfunctioned it'd completely break the realism. Like when you're immersed in a game and it glitches on you.

I think for some people this could be something that fills the void for them though. I guess we will find out soon enough when someone finally builds one and markets it.

 

[Thatdude]

We already have AI that can pass the Turing test. Googles deep learning AI could potentially accomplish this feat. So the technology is already technically there it's just not been packaged in this manner yet

It has to go beyond this. The software you're talking about is very exact. But if you ask it a question with the answer in it "what color is a pink bug"
It simply can't answer the question. What I'm talking about is something that talks like a normal person, to the point it is believable it has emotions. Like let's say there is some way it knows you're in your bed awake, and it won't disturb you from something important. It could talk to you like a normal human would. It can make you think it has feelings for you (if it can or cant isn't the question). And I'm talking about it being so perfect it won't malfunction.


What I'm wondering is if a physical relationship is needed for most, and can it be synthetic.
Personally I think most would be OK with a synthetic. Most would even protect the system. There was an experiment where some researchers brought people in a room by themselves and they were told to complete each task with this new robot. Then at the end you will get $30 if you completed every task on the list. The researchers went into another room. The first task was to plug the robot in. The subject did whatever in between, and the last task was to unplug the robot. The robot on that task beg to not be unplugged and beg to stay alive. Of course, the researchers were controlling the robot. I can't remember, but I think less than 10% unplugged the robot.

There was another experiment where a researcher made a cute box robot. They recorded their kids voice asking a bunch of questions. The subjects were going to a psychologist, and the doc had the bot in the waiting room. The subjects told the bot more info than what they told the doc in 10 years. They figured the kid voice with box shape cute robot look disarmed people, which allowed them to give more info.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The only reason i wish i had a robot is to program it to assist me in my suicide.
In fact i know you all will think i'm lying or delusional(delusions of grandeur) or trying to show off. But I was thinking of programming a robot to help me sink a boat after i'm unconscious but i guess you can program robots to help you in other kinds of suicide methods. I'm actually a programmer and have programmed in C and C++, arduino etc. so it's not hard at all :

Programming a Robot is as Easy as 1-2-3 !

Programming a robot has never been so easy, see how a 13 year old can program simple tasks.

blog.robotiq.com

 

[Brick In The Wall]

It has to go beyond this. The software you're talking about is very exact. But if you ask it a question with the answer in it "what color is a pink bug"
It simply can't answer the question. What I'm talking about is something that talks like a normal person, to the point it is believable it has emotions. Like let's say there is some way it knows you're in your bed awake, and it won't disturb you from something important. It could talk to you like a normal human would. It can make you think it has feelings for you (if it can or cant isn't the question). And I'm talking about it being so perfect it won't malfunction.


What I'm wondering is if a physical relationship is needed for most, and can it be synthetic.
Personally I think most would be OK with a synthetic. Most would even protect the system. There was an experiment where some researchers brought people in a room by themselves and they were told to complete each task with this new robot. Then at the end you will get $30 if you completed every task on the list. The researchers went into another room. The first task was to plug the robot in. The subject did whatever in between, and the last task was to unplug the robot. The robot on that task beg to not be unplugged and beg to stay alive. Of course, the researchers were controlling the robot. I can't remember, but I think less than 10% unplugged the robot.

There was another experiment where a researcher made a cute box robot. They recorded their kids voice asking a bunch of questions. The subjects were going to a psychologist, and the doc had the bot in the waiting room. The subjects told the bot more info than what they told the doc in 10 years. They figured the kid voice with box shape cute robot look disarmed people, which allowed them to give more info.

Interesting experiments, I always love hearing and reading about stuff like that. Human psychology is very predictable much the same way that computers can be predictable. Which makes sense since they're our creations after all.

I think you slightly underestimate Googles deep learning AI though. The AI is extremely advanced and easily able to answer such a simple question. The software can rationalize and make decisions beyond human capabilities as well.

@peacefullpainless I'm also a programmer in C++ and C#. That's an interesting idea you have about robot assisted suicide. That could be a thread in and of itself about the ethics and reality of such a thing.

 

[MysticPerception]

I already have a boyfriend so I'm not lonely. Mind you this is just throwing in my two cents but there are plenty of people who don't have loneliness as one of their problems and wants to ctb. A robot companion would be nice to have around though to play videogames with while I wait for the stuff I need to set a date.

 

[Thatdude]

The only reason i wish i had a robot is to program it to assist me in my suicide.
In fact i know you all will think i'm lying or delusional(delusions of grandeur) or trying to show off. But I was thinking of programming a robot to help me sink a boat after i'm unconscious but i guess you can program robots to help you in other kinds of suicide methods. I'm actually a programmer and have programmed in C and C++, arduino etc. so it's not hard at all :

Programming a Robot is as Easy as 1-2-3 !

Programming a robot has never been so easy, see how a 13 year old can program simple tasks.

blog.robotiq.com

Believe it or not, I am sure a large % of people here code or code for a living.

Anyways, what you talked about isn't that hard. Just have a drill that turns on when it detects your heart rate slow to a point. Just note that there is a large possibility that you will wake up during the drowning process. Like your body will want to fight to stay alive.

I think you slightly underestimate Googles deep learning AI though. The AI is extremely advanced and easily able to answer such a simple question. The software can rationalize and make decisions beyond human capabilities as well.

Ya, but you're kinda missing my point. Answering questions is ok, but the user needs to feel like there is another person there. The movie Her is a really good example. Not only would the interact need to be flawless when the user is asking questions. The AI needs unprovoked interact with the user.
You can't interact with humans on command. Like you can get them to stop or keep them away if you're busy. But the speak only when you're spoken to doesn't work in real life. In the movie Her, the AI never gotten in the way when the user was busy, and the AI learned from the habits of the user. But the AI did go out of its way to interact with the user unprovoked. Like ask how their day was, talked about random crap, and so on. The same as a spouse would.

Then on top of this, the user must believe the AI cares about the user. Like they believe the AI is more than just a tool. But something that has feelings.

You aren't going to fall in love with Wikipedia. But you might if these other things are in play.

With that being said. I think we are a good 10 years out before we get a hint of this on the consumer level.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

@Thatdude I didn't miss the point, I know exactly what you mean and I agree. That's why I mentioned the Turing Test already. If you're unfamiliar with the test it was developed by Alan Turing in 1950 and is the gold standard for AI. For AI to pass the Turing Test it must be equal to or indistinguishable from humans.

The Google AI I mentioned scores extremely high on this test. It's extremely adaptive and able to think for itself on many levels. There was also a chat AI developed years back that was on the internet and had a TON of people fooled into believing it was a teenage russian kid, I believe it's since been taken down though.

AI in general is much more advanced then people realize. Especially at the military level. Sure it can and will get better but I believe it's basically already at the point that it can do what's being talked about here.

The hardest thing for AI to do right now is to understand emotions and analyze things in its visual path. But again they've mostly got a handle on this now as well. It won't be long before AI surpasses us entirely. It's already able to outsmart us in many aspects.

 

[BabyYoda]

I would need a robot to fulfil my sexual urges (and the love I always wanted but never got) if I get tired of normal porn.

 

[TAW122]

No, I would still want to CTB. My reasons for CTB'ing aren't just the lack of meaningful interaction, it goes well beyond any singular reason or cause.

 

[Thereisnothing]

I find technology now with the Alexa thing and human like robots totally creepy and unnerving, just cant get my head round them!