faust
lost among the stars
- Jan 26, 2020
- 3,138
I often see that many people tried to CTB several times before, what is your amount of attempts?
a.n.kirillov
velle non discitur
- Nov 17, 2019
- 1,831
0. If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it right
I guess it depends on what you count as an attempt. For example I tried to CTB on my birthday but took 2x sleeping pills to early and fell asleep before I could go through with it. (Yes I'm aware I'm an idiot haha)
Personally I wouldn't count that, but I know my "health team" certainly would.
Personally I wouldn't count that, but I know my "health team" certainly would.
Spinoza
Member
- Feb 24, 2020
- 18
In my opinion there are no attempts. Whoever wants to do it, will do it. Do not try.
faust
lost among the stars
- Jan 26, 2020
- 3,138
Oh, I think that is a failed suicide attempt. Falling asleep before taking the full dose of N is a failed attempt too.
Brick In The Wall
2M Or Not 2B.
- Oct 30, 2019
- 25,158
Atleast 3x, if there's ever another attempt it will be successful. I'm trying to attempt recovery right now though.
I don't think that's true at all. Maybe people fail for a whole host of different reasons. For example if your rope breaks when you hang yourself that's an attempt.
faust
lost among the stars
- Jan 26, 2020
- 3,138
Oops, I did not mention. I have never tried CTB before, want it to be once and forever.
However, missed 3 chances to die naturally (1 more did not depend on me)
However, missed 3 chances to die naturally (1 more did not depend on me)
faust
lost among the stars
- Jan 26, 2020
- 3,138
Oh, this is a good idea! If you failed in CTB, why not give a try to recovery...
Yeah but the question is how many attempts. So in my situation listed before they would of had 1 attempt. Saying "there are no attempts" is just factual wrong.
Pride goeth before destruction: and the spirit is lifted up before a fall.
(Book of Proverbs, Chapter 16, Verse 18, Douay - Rheims Bible)
Brick In The Wall
2M Or Not 2B.
- Oct 30, 2019
- 25,158
I've battled these demons my entire life. I've half heartedly tried recovery in the past. This time I'm dedicating all I have to recovery.
With the knowledge I have now I know any future attempt will be 100% fatal and irreversible. I owe it to myself to atleast give life one more shot.
faust
lost among the stars
- Jan 26, 2020
- 3,138
And that is absolutely true! Never too late before it's late.
I also missed to die naturally
if i was born in medieval age i would have already been dead from appendicitis! I feel like this modern society owe me, very much!
Woodnote
Goodbye
- Oct 23, 2019
- 277
Twice. Once when I was a lot younger and then again in January but I got caught and put in a mental hospital.
faust
lost among the stars
- Jan 26, 2020
- 3,138
If we lived in 1918, we could have a great chance to die from a regular flu! Or from plague much earlier...I also missed to die naturally
I think if the nurses were put in psych ward and given those meds, they would not want to return there again...
Pryras
Last hope
- Feb 11, 2020
- 516
Two attempts that were pretty much the same thing. No research, no understanding of methods, just impulse and what I thought could get me to CTB.
1. Drove my car down a deserted dirt road and the black ice took my car off into a deep trench.Water was like half a meter deep so I didn't drown but had no service on my phone. I downed a bunch of pills and alcohol hoping I wouldn't be found ( I was unfortunately, by a truck driver )
2. Drove myself close to the mountains, took the gravel road and rammed my car down a ditch after taking 3 boxes of "high strength" Advil (dumb idea) and downed a bottle or vodka hoping it would do something (yeah, dumber idea) threw up twice and my heart started beating VERY fast. It wasn't painful but I think I was experiencing Tachycardia but unsure. I was very warm and calm. (Someone found me, in complete darkness, lucky me and now I'm here with no vehicle or desire to go on)
A lot of us don't want to be saved and surviving an attempt has left me more miserable than when I had initially decided to CTB.
1. Drove my car down a deserted dirt road and the black ice took my car off into a deep trench.Water was like half a meter deep so I didn't drown but had no service on my phone. I downed a bunch of pills and alcohol hoping I wouldn't be found ( I was unfortunately, by a truck driver )
2. Drove myself close to the mountains, took the gravel road and rammed my car down a ditch after taking 3 boxes of "high strength" Advil (dumb idea) and downed a bottle or vodka hoping it would do something (yeah, dumber idea) threw up twice and my heart started beating VERY fast. It wasn't painful but I think I was experiencing Tachycardia but unsure. I was very warm and calm. (Someone found me, in complete darkness, lucky me and now I'm here with no vehicle or desire to go on)
A lot of us don't want to be saved and surviving an attempt has left me more miserable than when I had initially decided to CTB.
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Sensei
剣道家
- Nov 4, 2019
- 6,336
I agree with Onlyborrowedtime, it depends on what you count as an attempt. I've made two attempts after I fell ill and one when I was young; I had actually forgotten about the latter until very recently. I used unreliable methods, so I was only close to dying once. Now I have the means and knowledge, so I don't think I'll fail this time. Also, I've made a few "quasi attempts" with home-extracted morphine and alcohol to be in "the twilight zone" and pretend that I'm not guilty if I die, and I believe I was close to dying one of those times.
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
Oh trust me there definitely are. I wanted to throw myself in front of a train twice and waited for the next heavy weight train to come. I just couldn't do it, I was too paralyzed to jump and I suddenly had an immense fear of trains I never felt before. I attempted night night 2 times, but even after over a minute I simply couldn't pass out and then gave up. I tried partial hanging several times as well, but shit is so painful I couldn't power through it. Next time I'll drink SN together with my CTB partner, so this time the factor that could cause my survival will not be my lack of willpower. Drinking a few medicaments and SN shouldn't be too hard. After all I could bring myself to attempt partial and night night several times as well.
Fragile
Broken
- Jul 7, 2019
- 1,496
most people are very much sure that they want to die when they fail but can't instantly do it again because they get locked in a psychiatric ward and then are put under constant surveillance for some time. not to mention the mind altering drugs.
many others choose a very ineffective method or do it impulsively, then they have to confront what they were doing and the aftermath, this is enough to make some people question themselves for month after.
not everyone has the same life experiences or situations. surviving an attempt is not as easy as you might think.
and the definition of attempt is:
the act of trying to make or do something.
That was pretty fucking preachy.
Maybe, by definition, an attempt is putting forth the effort and failing.
I think it's very dangerous to discredit people who have legitimate attempts just because they didn't work out and they didn't instantly try to kill themselves again the moment after they failed.
There's a difference between trying and failing (attempting), committing an act without the intention of dying (a cry for help), and trying and succeeding. All three of them are valid with in their own right
Granted.
The numbers were not initially with you, but I see them tilting to the "over 5" end of things.
Incompetence, or, as I said: failed. Maybe, I dunno, disease rendered them too weak to finish the effort? I dunno, not like that exact fucking thing happened to me, or anything. Just saying.
Sure. Why not.
No reason to apologize. We cool.
Fragile
Broken
- Jul 7, 2019
- 1,496
sure, you are allowed to have an opinion, just know that if you make that opinion public then other people may disagree with it, specially when that opinion is preachy and dismissive of what other people feel.
oh, and there's a BIG difference between being pragmatic and not understanding what the word attempt means lol.
The word attempt does not go with success it goes with failure. You attempt something untill you succeed at it. I think you are confusing people who commit cries for help and people who have the full intention of ending it but fail. And even if people feel suicidal and don't act on it they shouldn't be cast aside, their feelings are very valid.
You say you have knowledge, have you had a failed attempt? You can't possibly know what kind of effect failing has on people unless you've experienced it first hand. And even then people will react differently.
Tbh it seems you're the one attention seeking by giving an objective incorrect view in a forum that clearly disagrees with you
50% Spinoza is a troll
50% being from Amsterdam, Baruch Spinoza's second language is English and the language barrier is impeding communication
Fragile
Broken
- Jul 7, 2019
- 1,496
the word attempt is Not accompanied by either success or failure, it just means to try regardless of the outcome.
and if you are so knowledgeable about it then you show absolutely know that some methods fail and people can't instantly attempt again, some people change their views and some others are just waiting for the right time, that doesn't mean that they didn't absolutely wanted to die when they attempted.
i agree that many people use suicide as a way to seek attention, but to categorize every single person that fails as an attention seeker then you are just being dismissive of their situations, everyone is different and live different lives.
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