Podcast i heard mentioned having kids changed their depression

[life-eternal]

I couldn't help but laugh. How is this allowed in society? You are depressed, have nothing else to do and you pop out a kid. Now your life has meaning. Nice! You go to work every morning with an objective, and that is because you need to feed your kid. Ok so now your life all of a sudden is better than before, and you have a purpose.

What about the rest of us? We never asked to be here, and if you say that to a parent they will respond with "I never asked to be here either" - Difference is I haven't brought a kid into this hateful world! you did! Big fucking difference! You were depressed or miserable or bored or whatever the fuck, you had a kid, a purpose came out of nothing, and now i have to deal with this shit?! I hate life with a passion.

Now I have to live depressed for the rest of my life just to not make your life miserable again?

No thanks, i am out of here. Not my fault, not my problem.

7 days left!

 

[WornOutLife]

This is ridiculous!
I could never bring a child into this world knowing that I have such a terrible depression!
I mean, I can't even be in a serious relationship because of my mental state!

Again, ridiculous!

 

[life-eternal]

i could never bring a kid into this world either, it would be the worst thing i could ever do.

my parents generation made it close to impossible anyways! i could barely survive by myself with a full time 9-5 when i was working. How am i supposed to afford a house or anything? Rent my whole life and eat ramen every day? lol look at house prices, education prices, everything that got handed to them basically for next to free.

 

[WornOutLife]

i could never bring a kid into this world either, it would be the worst thing i could ever do.

my parents generation made it close to impossible anyways! i could barely survive by myself with a full time 9-5 when i was working. How am i supposed to afford a house or anything? Rent my whole life and eat ramen every day? lol look at house prices, education prices, everything that got handed to them basically for next to free.

Oh damn, the 9-5 working system. I dislike it so much!
That's why I chose to be a teacher and only work as many hours as I want (tutoring/private lessons).
I'm not a millonaire but at least I'm not an unhappy guy trapped in an office.

 

[life-eternal]

yep, i think thats a better way to live than being in an office all day. I've considered teaching overseas like in China or something just to have my own hours, but it's hard to get. Do you teach online?

I quit every single office job i've ever had and i am never, ever going back. It is completely unnatural and the situation is quite funny: people who do not want to be there and hate being there but yet are there every day and will give you shit if you are not there... O.O

 

[WornOutLife]

yep, i think thats a better way to live than being in an office all day. I've considered teaching overseas like in China or something just to have my own hours, but it's hard to get. Do you teach online?

I quit every single office job i've ever had and i am never, ever going back. It is completely unnatural and the situation is quite funny: people who do not want to be there and hate being there but yet are there every day and will give you shit if you are not there... O.O

Yes, I teach online to people from all over the world, especially China! What a coincidence!
The payout is not great but it's better than being a slave!

 

[lucacaro]

People can be very functional and depressed at the same time so they may end up having a child - if that makes them happy and inspires them to be better and do better I don't really see what's so wrong. We can't just die out as a species because our kids could end up depressed? I didn't want to be born but what about my siblings? They may appreciate life much more than I do. And what if the world gets better with new generations? idk

I just don't really understand feeling resentment towards parents just because they created you. It's a different story though if you have parents who don't treat you well - in that case it's like why did you even bother to make something you wouldn't love and protect?

Though overpopulation and all that is a different story and I do prefer adoption over making a child myself. Some kid out there is missing having loving parent(s) so I think it's nicer to care for people already existing than to make whole new ones.

That's just how I feel/think though

 

[life-eternal]

The problem is that i never asked to be here. 2 people decided to have me. Now i have to work all day every day, be miserable, depressed for over a decade, pay taxes, deal with social anxiety. I never asked any of this. Life was given to me, so it is mine to take. I have loving parents too, which makes it much harder, but dealing with mental problems until the day i die is not going to be an option for me. I will put an end to it.

Regarding siblings or other people which are glad to be here, i agree with you. I hope them the best from the bottom of my heart, but my life shouldn't be miserable and have to live just to not cause problems to others. Hence legalise euthanasia, people that do not want to be here can exit, people that want to live can stay.

 

[lucacaro]

Regarding siblings or other people which are glad to be here, i agree with you. I hope them the best from the bottom of my heart, but my life shouldn't be miserable and have to live just to not cause problems to others. Hence legalise euthanasia, people that do not want to be here can exit, people that want to live can stay.

I'm not saying you have any obligation to stay here - it's your choice to leave when you want even if it can be difficult. But my point is - no one can see the future and have figured out you would have rather not been born. So there is no reason in hating on parents over making life. Having children is not an evil thing to do imo.

 

[Ghost2211]

I would agree it's not good judgement to bring a child into the world to try to remedy a pointless depressed existence, but I highly doubt that is most people's motive when they become parents.

 

[ToughTimes]

This makes no sense and is honestly pretty bad judgement.

If I am already depressed and thinking about ctb when I only have my own life to worry about why should I introduce another life to worry about. Is it not worse being a parent and ctb? If it is a persons call in this world maybe it could help them to have children however to make it a panacea for depressed people has the potential to lead to a lot of unnecessary pain.

This is not to say depressed people can't have children but that the reasons should not be as a remedy.

 

[Meditation guide]

How is this allowed in society? You are depressed, have nothing else to do and you pop out a kid.

It's what nature does. Women and men have sex and a baby results. Keep abortions legal.

I'm sure people here don't think every pregnancy is planned? I'm the result of my mother unexpectedly getting pregnant.

Is anyone here a planned birth?

 

[Nymph]

Ugh it's tragic really, having kids is so selfish.

 

[UterEntonaur]

You are depressed, have nothing else to do and you pop out a kid.

Some people who need therapy or support, end up having kids thinking it'll solve everything, but it's usually the kid who suffers with no hopes of a future (it's why so many teen's near me turn to selling drugs and why knife-crime is so high)

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

It's what nature does. Women and men have sex and a baby results. Keep abortions legal.

I'm sure people here don't think every pregnancy is planned? I'm the result of my mother unexpectedly getting pregnant.

Is anyone here a planned birth?

I was a planned birth for this very reason. My mother thought a baby would cure all her ails. When the baby (me) arrived she tossed her new infant aside and handed me off to my grandparents. She later wrote me a letter and explained she simply did not have the capacity to care.

The appeal of a shiny new trinket wore off. Except she wasn't messing around with baby dolls, she had created a real human life, and now I have to suffer, bearing the burden of genetic illnesses, because my mother was so selfish and wanted to reproduce in an attempt to solve her problems.

Good thing I am an antinatalist, I will never be responsible for willingly passing down illnesses to another human for my own potential gain of finding a "purpose".

 

[life-eternal]

I was a planned birth for this very reason. My mother thought a baby would cure all her ails. When the baby (me) arrived she tossed her new infant aside and handed me off to my grandparents. She later wrote me a letter and explained she simply did not have the capacity to care.

The appeal of a shiny new trinket wore off. Except she wasn't messing around with baby dolls, she had created a real human life, and now I have to suffer, bearing the burden of genetic illnesses, because my mother was so selfish and wanted to reproduce in an attempt to solve her problems.

Good thing I am an antinatalist, I will never be responsible for willingly passing down illnesses to another human for my own potential gain of finding a "purpose".

I think the same too, i will neve pass my genes. I was a mistake so now point putting more mistakes here.

 

[Nymph]

I was also a planned kid, my parents were basically bored with life so they made a kid to spice things up...

 

[Kat!]

I have a ferret but most likely I am not bringing a kid into this world, I'm afraid I would not parent them properly.
A ferret is close enough, they're life-long toddlers.

 

[lost_soul83]

I honestly am so sick of the, "I never asked to be here," argument. None of us asked to be born, but we were so deal with it.

 

[nowhere2befound]

There are people that do that. That is the biggest problem. Kid gets screwed up that way because they end up being raised by either single subdepressed parent whose whole world is evolving around a child which becomes incapable of living later on in life. Sometimes if grandparents are good i feel they might pull it of but if that is out of the equation the kid will grow up to be incapable of living, doing drugs or having some weird fixations that would either make it kill itself or someone else.

 

[Lupgevif]

I feel bad for the kids, I can't imagine how much of that depression those parents are pouring onto them to feel like having them cured it.

 

[loopylou]

Having a kid to try heal depression is extremely selfish.

 

[Lupgevif]

I honestly am so sick of the, "I never asked to be here," argument. None of us asked to be born, but we were so deal with it.

Yeah, we are trying to deal with it, but suicide is a taboo and the whole world conspires against it.

 

[Keto]

I couldn't help but laugh. How is this allowed in society? You are depressed, have nothing else to do and you pop out a kid. Now your life has meaning. Nice! You go to work every morning with an objective, and that is because you need to feed your kid. Ok so now your life all of a sudden is better than before, and you have a purpose.

What about the rest of us? We never asked to be here, and if you say that to a parent they will respond with "I never asked to be here either" - Difference is I haven't brought a kid into this hateful world! you did! Big fucking difference! You were depressed or miserable or bored or whatever the fuck, you had a kid, a purpose came out of nothing, and now i have to deal with this shit?! I hate life with a passion.

Now I have to live depressed for the rest of my life just to not make your life miserable again?

No thanks, i am out of here. Not my fault, not my problem.

7 days left!

Hello. Can you link this podcast. I would like to hear it. Thanks

 

[262653]

I think that's humorous, but in a tragic way. I'm considering non-reproduction myself but more for selfish reasons. I really don't feel like taking care of the babies.

Actually I can't think of a vocation that would grant you more degree of power over someone. Sure, there is law enforcement, health industry (life enforcement), management, and elementary school teaching, but nothing beats parenting. Just imagine a blank state where you can write almost anything you want, material through which you can satisfy unfulfilled fantasies... But also a lot of people are probably having kids as a consequence of sex feeling good. It's amazing what atrocities are conducted in the name of pleasure.

I don't think I would feel guilty leaving this place. I will do this for my own sake and the pain of my close ones is the collateral damage I won't get to experience. Just like they did it to feel good, I will do it to avoid feeling bad.

 

[life-eternal]

I honestly am so sick of the, "I never asked to be here," argument. None of us asked to be born, but we were so deal with it.

I will deal with it. None of us asked to be born here that is true. But i haven't brought anyone into this life, luckily, so my conscience is clean. I hope Euthanasia gets legalised soon so people can choose.

Hello. Can you link this podcast. I would like to hear it. Thanks

Hi Keto! I'll have a look and see if i can find it and share it here!

 

[Nymph]

I honestly am so sick of the, "I never asked to be here," argument. None of us asked to be born, but we were so deal with it.

Why are you mad at that argument if you believe in it? You didn't ask to be here either, and we don't want to "just" deal with it. We wouldn't have to deal with anything if they just didn't make us

 

[life-eternal]

@Nymph That's an argument ONLY used by parents, No offence to @lost_soul83 if he/she isn't one! Just usually only hear that from people who have had children! <3

 

[Nymph]

@Nymph That's an argument ONLY used by parents, No offence to @lost_soul83 if he/she isn't one! Just usually only hear that from people who have had children! <3

Yeah, my mom says the same thing. She hates when I tell her that I never asked to be here. But it's true, my mom made a selfish decision and made me just because she was bored with her life. Now I'm here and I have to suffer

 

[lost_soul83]

@Nymph That's an argument ONLY used by parents, No offence to @lost_soul83 if he/she isn't one! Just usually only hear that from people who have had children! <3

True, I am a mother and I love my son very much

Why are you mad at that argument if you believe in it? You didn't ask to be here either, and we don't want to "just" deal with it. We wouldn't have to deal with anything if they just didn't make us

Well I didn't try to "make" my son either. I never intended to get pregnant but I did and I have taken the best care of my son every day since he was born. I'm just saying that there's nothing you can do once you're born but either ctb or try to live the best life possible I guess. I just don't see the point in crying about being born cuz it's already happened. There's nothing any of us can do about it. We're all in the same boat essentially.