Discussion Podcast about suicide of a teenager

[think.like]

I just listened for 45 minutes to a podcast about a mother finding her daughter hanging (which she did after taking mephedrone) and oh my gosh. Unfortunatly my mind always visualizes things I don't wanna see and this picture broke my heart. Poor girl probably started this shit for "fun" and ended up unaliving herself after taking double the dose she usually did. She wasn't even 16.. I don't understand how anyone can sell drugs to literal child. Someone who's frontal lobe isn't even developed enough to think about all consequences that come from drug abuse. Someone who can't even legally drive and still goes to school. That's just disgusting in my opinion. I'm curious what do y'all think about drugs and being a diler and selling this stuff to underage people?

 

[bagel12]

i feel so bad for people who find their loved one's body, especially a minor, i can't even imagine :(

i've heard about an unusual number of ctbs due to mephedrone. i'm not sure why, maybe the comedown is really bad?

looking back, i was reckless about drugs when i was a teenager, even though i didn't think i was being reckless at the time. i lucked out that a few negative incidents helped me realize the importance of safer consumption before i did any serious harm to myself.

i think there are some drugs that are unsuitable for teenagers. some things are better to try once you're older, with more life experience, stability, maturity, and better critical thinking skills. but there will always be minors willing to buy and dealers willing to sell. so i think the best approach is talking with teenagers about the risks of drug use and addiction, and talking with them about harm reduction practices. i think personal stories are more effective than statistics. i think teenagers need adults who they can trust, so if they do start to struggle, they have someone who they can open up to without fear of being judged or shamed.

 

[think.like]

i feel so bad for people who find their loved one's body, especially a minor, i can't even imagine :(

My imagination is unfortunatly really good at visualizimg things I don't wanna see and it made me look at my family finding my body. I almost started to cry. That's one of multiple reasons why I would never choose ctb by hanging, it's just too traumatic for anyone who finds me

i've heard about an unusual number of ctbs due to mephedrone. i'm not sure why, maybe the comedown is really bad?

In this particular situation the girl was probably like psychotic or smth like that cuz she took double the dose she usually did. In addition mephedrone is really cheap so getting enough to od is easier than other drugs

I agree with everything you wrote, the stories about what drugs do to you should be told to teenagers and schools even try to do that but it ends up not going well. They usually take someone without enough psychological knowledge and their words end up saying more harm than good. In other podcast I listened to a woman told a bunch of students that "You can never get even 1% of happiness you get on drugs in a normal situation" and it made the girl struggling with depression consider trying them even more. Drugs are such a taboo that when you tell anyone you did them they act like you're a criminal, when you were just someone who needed help

 

[bagel12]

My imagination is unfortunatly really good at visualizimg things I don't wanna see and it made me look at my family finding my body. I almost started to cry. That's one of multiple reasons why I would never choose ctb by hanging, it's just too traumatic for anyone who finds me

In this particular situation the girl was probably like psychotic or smth like that cuz she took double the dose she usually did. In addition mephedrone is really cheap so getting enough to od is easier than other drugs

I agree with everything you wrote, the stories about what drugs do to you should be told to teenagers and schools even try to do that but it ends up not going well. They usually take someone without enough psychological knowledge and their words end up saying more harm than good. In other podcast I listened to a woman told a bunch of students that "You can never get even 1% of happiness you get on drugs in a normal situation" and it made the girl struggling with depression consider trying them even more. Drugs are such a taboo that when you tell anyone you did them they act like you're a criminal, when you were just someone who needed help

i'm sorry to hear that, that sounds very distressing to visualize :( i hope you're feeling a bit better now. i get what you mean, there are some methods i couldn't choose because of the trauma they could cause to whoever found me. no judgment towards people who do choose those methods, i just would be worried about causing harm to someone else.

ah that makes sense about the mephedrone. it's not the same but i know someone who tried jumping out a sixth story window on lsd (luckily people stopped him). that's why a trip sitter or trip killers are so important.

i completely agree with you, those school assemblies with a random educator don't work. imo they make things worse, because they make drugs sound cool, taboo, and exciting. usually it sounds like they're fear-mongering or being dramatic about the risks, so teenagers laugh it off. the educator usually doesn't come across as someone with credibility. and i agree with what you said, it is difficult for teenagers to confide in anyone because of the taboo. usually adults treat these conversations in a judgmental manner. nobody wants to be treated like a criminal, so teenagers have nobody to confide in if they start developing a substance use disorder.

personally, i think kids would benefit from directly interacting with and learning from people who have personally dealt with addiction. it humanizes addiction while also viscerally showing how drugs can destroy anyone's life. i think it's best if these interactions start before kids hit their teenage years, before they reach the age where it's cool to not listen to adults and it's cool to do risky things. for example, as a kid, i spent a lot of time volunteering to help unhoused people, many of whom struggled with addiction. i learned a lot from these experiences.

i say all of this as someone who is by no means anti drug. i enjoy using alcohol and drugs for fun, for new experiences and perspectives, and for personal growth. but i am mindful and intentional about using substances responsibly. i know all too well that it only takes one mistake to ruin my life, and being aware of this fact helps me make smarter choices.