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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
I don't understand why people take small doses of SN to see what it's like and why others find it helpful when people report back on how it affected them.

If you had a shot of vodka that wouldn't give you an idea of what drinking a bottle of Vodka would be like

The big difference being is that a shot of vodka is highly unlikely going to kill you or do any damage. A few grams of SN might.

Please don't experiment with it. Follow one of the protocols available on this site as best you can if you really want to CTB
 
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Pluto

Cat Extremist
Dec 27, 2020
5,060
Unfortunately, there has been a lot of FUD lately. I agree that nobody should feel pressured to be a martyr to put people's worries to rest. Being partly poisoned is likely to be very uncomfortable and does not ultimately prove whether the method is painless or not when fully followed through.

Also, for people thinking about the jumping method, I do not recommend jumping off the roof of your house for trial purposes.
 
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Jadzia

Name is from Star Trek. I'm not from E. Europe
May 8, 2019
405
Unfortunately, there has been a lot of FUD lately. I agree that nobody should feel pressured to be a martyr to put people's worries to rest. Being partly poisoned is likely to be very uncomfortable and does not ultimately prove whether the method is painless or not when fully followed through.

Also, for people thinking about the jumping method, I do not recommend jumping off the roof of your house for trial purposes.
What does FUD stand for?
 
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Pluto

Cat Extremist
Dec 27, 2020
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I just realised I might have been using that term incorrectly since there's no proof that the posts questioning the reliability of SN were deliberately trying to sow doubt, nor was I suggesting as much.

 
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Lostinspace

Member
Nov 12, 2022
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While I have no personal experience, people might experiment because, mentally, not going 'all in' is just easier, "it might do it, it might just be an experiment and it'll be fine", not having to commit to it 100%. I'm sure there are also people who just don't care and are reckless, but to me, it's a bit like partial vs full suspension, one is a lot harder to do than the other because you're quite literally all in
 
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Apr 7, 2019
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I'm very skeptical of posts where the poster says they took x amount of SN and then like 8 hours later they're posting again saying they're perfectly fine.
 
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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
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I don't understand why people take small doses of SN to see what it's like and why others find it helpful when people report back on how it affected them.

If you had a shot of vodka that wouldn't give you an idea of what drinking a bottle of Vodka would be like

The big difference being is that a shot of vodka is highly unlikely going to kill you or do any damage. A few grams of SN might.

Please don't experiment with it. Follow one of the protocols available on this site as best you can if you really want to CTB
To be fair, if you have sn on hand (and you're not trying to cure meat), you're likely dead set on dying so they probably taste test sn because worse case scenario, they die, which is the result they would soon be going for anyways.
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
8,881
To be fair, if you have sn on hand (and you're not trying to cure meat), you're likely dead set on dying so they probably taste test sn because worse case scenario, they die, which is the result they would soon be going for anyways.
I think in a lot of cases, it's a "security blanket" type thing, a "just in case" safeguard in case their situation devolves even more. I'd go so far as to say a lot of people, how many I really don't know, but a very significant amount of people who buy SN never actually use it to CTB.
 
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Wannagonow

Specialist
Nov 16, 2022
376
I don't understand why people "experiment" on small doses of SN. I don't find it helpful at all when people post 8 hrs later what their experience was like. Usually it's a negative report. Frankly I think some of the people (not all) that post these missives do it as an intentional scare tactic. If you sincerely are trying it maybe to see what happens- be careful and be prepared for a small amount to possibly help you exit. When I choke down some SN it's all or nothing. No "practicing".
 
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UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,447
SN is already a complicated and extremely unreliable method without people playing about making it worse.

The forum should have a block on SN threads, there is way too much false information about and I suspect its doing massive harm.

It's not a method where you take a little drink and drift off. It's a method that's easy to get wrong and that will land you in hospital in an even worse mental state.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,131
To be fair, if you have sn on hand (and you're not trying to cure meat), you're likely dead set on dying so they probably taste test sn because worse case scenario, they die, which is the result they would soon be going for anyways.
Not so sure death is the worst case scenario though (not for people like us anyhow.) I'd be more concerned for the discomfort/ pain they are likely about to put themselves through (just to see what it feels like.) They may well end up ringing for emergency services- in which case- possibly end up in a psyche ward and on the mental health servies radar.

Also, we don't really know about longer term side effects or the possibility of serious complications. People do seem to be (miraculously) ok after a few days (even without treatment) but we don't absolutely know.

You have injested a poison after all that has transformed a portion of your red blood cells so that they can no longer release their oxygen effectively to tissues and organs. Surely this will have starved SOME of your body of oxygen and presumably, the liver then has to deal with getting rid of these cells.

I guess it really depends on just how much Nitrite was absorbed and how far along the process went as to the result. It doesn't seem like something you can accurately predict though- so I just don't understand why people do it. Reckon I'll be all in (with as close to the full protocol as I can get) or nothing.
 
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jessisme

Specialist
Dec 3, 2022
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I think in a lot of cases, it's a "security blanket" type thing, a "just in case" safeguard in case their situation devolves even more. I'd go so far as to say a lot of people, how many I really don't know, but a very significant amount of people who buy SN never actually use it to CTB.

I'm concerned about this too. I just got my SN yesterday and already I feel afraid of the package and literally want to run from it. As much as I am relieved to have it I now feel pressure to act, something that terrifies me given recent testimony on this site. I'm afraid that I will put it off until I fail to do it all together and that is not an option.
SN is already a complicated and extremely unreliable method without people playing about making it worse.

The forum should have a block on SN threads, there is way too much false information about and I suspect its doing massive harm.

It's not a method where you take a little drink and drift off. It's a method that's easy to get wrong and that will land you in hospital in an even worse mental state.

I think it's good that we discuss SN here and are given an opportunity to weigh the information we read here, assess the situation and draw conclusions for ourselves. SN is lauded as an option in the PPEH so it's valuable to have a place people can come to share their experiences, hopes, fears and speculations. It's my method of choice at the moment despite recent terrifying accounts as it is affordable and attainable to me. I don't think we should censor speech just because there may be incorrect information as that is the case for anything that is discussed here on the site. As with other things it is important to be speculative about what we read here and use eyes of discernment when reading. That's the obligation and best approach to any instance in which freedom of speech exists.
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
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I now feel pressure to act
I wish you wouldn't feel that way. There should be no pressure to act. With suicide, you can take it or leave it, however you please. It can be suspended for some time, and it can be revisited, should conditions warrant it. What's one of the worst things that could happen - the SN sits around for a lot of years and goes bad? Then, if necessary in the future, you just get more, or maybe an even better way comes around by then. Don't let the idea of suicide take control of you. You need to be in control of it and consider it when you're damn good and ready.
 
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Enlightened
Aug 14, 2022
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SN is already a complicated and extremely unreliable method without people playing about making it worse.

The forum should have a block on SN threads, there is way too much false information about and I suspect its doing massive harm.

It's not a method where you take a little drink and drift off. It's a method that's easy to get wrong and that will land you in hospital in an even worse mental state.
Any method can go wrong and land you in a hospital. I'm just wondering though other than ending up in the hospital what do you feel is the worst that can go wrong? Anyone that I've seen who has failed has recovered physically.

Also you can block whatever threads you want to by clicking ignore. If you don't like the sodium Nitrite method then stop talking about it and worrying about it.
 
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