Plastic Bag without Gas.

[noalarms]

I'm currently reading Five Last Acts by Chris Docker and came across this method.

All you need is a large plastic bag, elastic bands, sleeping meds and anti-emetics.

The idea is to sedate yourself with a bag on your head. This will prevent you from tearing the bag off, which is what would happen if you attempted this without a sedative.

There seems to be very little that can go wrong with this method in terms of physical consequences, if you fail you will simply tear off the bag while asleep and wake up. For this reason it is worth considering unless you have N or SN.

The difficulty that most will encounter with this method is falling into a deep sleep before the CO2 concentration in the bag rises enough to make you tear it off. To prevent this you will need (1) a large bag (it should rest in your lap if you place it on your head in a sitting position) and a strong enough sedative to put you in a deep sleep in under an hour. Chris Docker recommends the prescription medication zolpidem (sold as Ambien in the U.S.) but OTC sleep meds like diphenhydramine (Benadryl) may also work. Be very careful with Benadryl though, as its side effects can include delirium and disturbing hallucinations if too much is taken.

Docker also recommends taking anti-emetics, but I'm not sure if these are absolutely necessary.

If you use a large bag like the one described above, it will take about an hour before the oxygen levels in the bag are depleted. At this point, you will die within a few minutes. Make sure you shake the bag to fill it with air before you put it on your head, and practice putting on the bag so that you can do it before you pass out.

I also strongly recommend using zolpidem if you can, Benadryl is a notoriously dodgy drug.

I think this is a close to a peaceful method as most of us are likely to get. Many will dismiss it based on past failed attempts, but if the bag you use is large enough, and the sedative strong enough, this will not happen.

 

[lifeORdeath]

I would hate to wake up and not be able to get bag off. Like a nightmare if someone suffocating me with hands tied back or something.

I'd have to be out hard, fast, and long to not panic for this.

 

[noalarms]

I would hate to wake up and not be able to get bag off. Like a nightmare if someone suffocating me with hands tied back or something.

I'd have to be out hard, fast, and long to not panic for this.

If you were to wake up after several hours with the bag still on, that would suggest that the bag you used lets oxygen pass through it.

This is not typically how people fail this method. If the sedative you used isn't strong enough, you'll most likely rip off the bag while asleep.

 

[hunterfla]

I'm currently reading Five Last Acts by Chris Docker and came across this method.

All you need is a large plastic bag, elastic bands, sleeping meds and anti-emetics.

The idea is to sedate yourself with a bag on your head. This will prevent you from tearing the bag off, which is what would happen if you attempted this without a sedative.

There seems to be very little that can go wrong with this method in terms of physical consequences, if you fail you will simply tear off the bag while asleep and wake up. For this reason it is worth considering unless you have N or SN.

The difficulty that most will encounter with this method is falling into a deep sleep before the CO2 concentration in the bag rises enough to make you tear it off. To prevent this you will need (1) a large bag (it should rest in your lap if you place it on your head in a sitting position) and a strong enough sedative to put you in a deep sleep in under an hour. Chris Docker recommends the prescription medication zolpidem (sold as Ambien in the U.S.) but OTC sleep meds like diphenhydramine (Benadryl) may also work. Be very careful with Benadryl though, as its side effects can include delirium and disturbing hallucinations if too much is taken.

Docker also recommends taking anti-emetics, but I'm not sure if these are absolutely necessary.

If you use a large bag like the one described above, it will take about an hour before the oxygen levels in the bag are depleted. At this point, you will die within a few minutes. Make sure you shake the bag to fill it with air before you put it on your head, and practice putting on the bag so that you can do it before you pass out.

I also strongly recommend using zolpidem if you can, Benadryl is a notoriously dodgy drug.

I think this is a close to a peaceful method as most of us are likely to get. Many will dismiss it based on past failed attempts, but if the bag you use is large enough, and the sedative strong enough, this will not happen.

This is not a recommended method...please do not try this.

 

[noalarms]

This is not a recommended method...please do not try this.

Not recommended by who?

What do you think could go wrong with this method?

 

[hunterfla]

Not recommended by who?

What do you think could go wrong with this method?

Not recommended by anyone. There are countless issues. Just google it.

 

[noalarms]

Not recommended by anyone. There are countless issues. Just google it.

If there are countless issues, you should be able to give me one.

 

[Someone123]

Suffocation is an excruciating method to go through- there are many less painful methods. I heard of one prisoner who was facing life without parole who used suffocation and had the deteminatino to go through withy it because he dind't want to spend life in prison- it was on an episode of forensic files- but most people will tear the bag open even after going unconscious.

 

[noalarms]

Suffocation is an excruciating method to go through- there are many less painful methods. I heard of one prisoner who was facing life without parole who used suffocation and had the deteminatino to go through withy it because he dind't want to spend life in prison- it was on an episode of forensic files- but most people will tear the bag open even after going unconscious.

I think there is no chance of suffocating with this method, but I can't be sure.

If you take a strong enough sedative, you wont pull the bag off - I'm not sure if OTC meds are strong enough.

Getting this method right will probably involve failed attemtps, but they won't be painful.

 

[hunterfla]

If there are countless issues, you should be able to give me one.

I'm not interested in arguing a well known fact. If for some reason YOU want to use this method, by all means - enjoy. But I don't want other, less informed (if that's possible) people thinking it's the best option. No more replies will be entertained.

 

[noalarms]

I'm not interested in arguing a well known fact. If for some reason YOU want to use this method, by all means - enjoy. But I don't want other, less informed (if that's possible) people thinking it's the best option. No more replies will be entertained.

You dismissed the method and can't back up your claims with evidence. I never claimed this method was the best option. You can't just keep repeating "it's a well know fact" without backing up your claim.

 

[Temporal_Anchorite]

You dismissed the method and can't back up your claims with evidence. I never claimed this method was the best option. You can't just keep repeating "it's a well know fact" without backing up your claim.

Claiming "it's a terrible method" is a mostly subjective and qualitatively evaluative statement, so I'm not sure what kind of data you're expecting that person to produce to support their claim (besides maybe some stats relating to the low efficacy of the method). You're more than welcome to post an opinion poll and utilize that as data if you'd like lol. But I think the overwhelming majority of people would agree that suffocation via plastic bag is a deeply uncomfortable and terrifying way to go. We literally have a built-in biological response mechanism in our brain that makes us freak the fuck out if we detect an excessive buildup of CO2 in our bloodstream. Sorry, but no over-the-counter sleeping meds are going to override that neurobiological circuitry.

But hey, at the end of the day it's your body, your choice—even if that choice is unequivocally retarded. Just know that there are certainly better options.

 

[GasMonkey]

Not a peaceful method, in fact, it doesn't even appear in the PPeH.

 

[noalarms]

Claiming "it's a terrible method" is a mostly subjective and qualitatively evaluative statement, so I'm not sure what kind of data you're expecting that person to produce to support their claim (besides maybe some stats relating to the low efficacy of the method).

I didn't ask him to produce data, I asked him to provide evidence in support of the claim he made. Unlike you, he has provided none.
You may find stats that purport to show the low efficacy of this or any other method, but if those stats don't take into account the fact that almost any method can be attempted incorrectly, they would be useless. Imagine if there were stats purporting to show that SN was an ineffective method, and it was later discovered that those who attempted had not take anti-emetics. There are many ways to do this method incorrectly, which could explain its poor reputation.

But I think the overwhelming majority of people would agree that suffocation via plastic bag is a deeply uncomfortable and terrifying way to go.

Did you even read the post? You are unconscious the whole time, so no, it is not 'deeply uncomfortable' or terrifying. If the bag is too small, and you begin to run out of air, you can remove it long before experiencing any unpleasant symptoms.

We literally have a built-in biological response mechanism in our brain that makes us freak the fuck out if we detect an excessive buildup of CO2 in our bloodstream. Sorry, but no over-the-counter sleeping meds are going to override that neurobiological circuitry.

That neurobiological circuitry can be overriden; Chris Docker cites hundreds of examples of this method succeeding in the chapter on this method in Five Last Acts, so it certainly was overriden in those cases. As for the OTC meds, you can see in my post that I recommended prescription medication and only metioned OTC as a possibiliy; I said that they might be effective and cautioned against their overuse. Again, did you even read my post?

But hey, at the end of the day it's your body, your choice—even if that choice is unequivocally retarded. Just know that there are certainly better options.

If this method is unequivocally retarded, then it is worth reconsidering linking to Five Last Acts in the Suicide Resources thread. Chris Docker goes much further than I do in saying that OTC meds will work, just not as effectively as prescription.

Not a peaceful method, in fact, it doesn't even appear in the PPeH.

The PPeH has to be updated regularly to include new methods that the authors consider promising, so I'm not sure how relevant this is.

Also, the PPeH is not the only book that has been written about peaceful methods. This method is discussed at length in Five Last Acts.

 

[plastic]

If you were to wake up after several hours with the bag still on, that would suggest that the bag you used lets oxygen pass through it.

To prevent the bag from being hollow, you can put more bags over your head and then this cannot happen.

 

[myfinalform]

from my perspective, i could never sleep with a bag on my head

 

[freelifexit]

Previously, this method was described in PPEH. It was later removed, I don't know why. This can be a good method if there is a strong sleeping pill.

I think there are several risks:
1. Wake up with brain damage and take off the bag.
2. Wake up paralyzed due to brain damage, not be able to remove the bag and experience a feeling of suffocation while slowly dying.
3. Fall asleep and see a dream in which you feel suffocation that occurs in real time, but not be able to wake up.

That is why a strong sleeping pill is so important.

 

[GasMonkey]

Imagine how bad the method is that they removed it from the PPeH.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

Previously, this method was described in PPEH. It was later removed, I don't know why. This can be a good method if there is a strong sleeping pill.

I think there are several risks:
1. Wake up with brain damage and take off the bag.
2. Wake up paralyzed due to brain damage, not be able to remove the bag and experience a feeling of suffocation while slowly dying.
3. Fall asleep and see a dream in which you feel suffocation that occurs in real time, but not be able to wake up.

That is why a strong sleeping pill is so important.

Hanging can lead to brain damage and being paralyzed, be careful.