Only a very small political niche group can be considered "good people"

[noname223]

I have some leftwing friends. And they are really far left. I vote for a leftwing centrist party but they vote for the most leftwing party in the parliament.
We were at pro-palestine protests. And one of my friends had the theory there is only a small niche group of good people that can be considered politically sane. For me that is in some ways a generalization. Also because I would not be in the in-group by voting for the SPD. Lol. I think some economic policies of Die Linke don't work out in practice. I find the thought interesting anyway. And it will polarize on here.

But he suggested the following filter for finding people to connect to. In favor of Palestine and against the actions of Israel's government. Even though, the problems probably go deeper than the mere government. Something that is very condemned to say in Germany. But it is true the vast majority of the opposition is also in favor of the genocide. Next point. Pro-Ukraine and against Russia. Something that is polarizing within Die Linke. You find a lot of old lefties at protests who have Russia nostalgia a little bit too much.
Then in favor of gender inclusive language. In favor of trans people. And against humanitarian crises all around the world so that such crises are not forgotten in the media coverage. Movements against the climate crisis but that's a common sense position. Against capitalism. In favor of refugees.

I wonder how big the political tent is considering this coalition. Maybe 12% where I live. The degree of appropriate defense spending is highly contested between leftwingers. And the Russia question is debated. Actually, there was a split between Die Linke and the BSW. BSW is an anti-immigration and pro-Russia party. Most of the members once were part of Die Linke. And since they split Die Linke is on the rise because there are less arguments. The BSW was up but is now marginalized.

 

[Ashu]

No, only vegans can be considered good people.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Hvergelmir]

But he suggested the following filter for finding people to connect to.

My suggestion would be not not judge people too harshly based on political alignment.

All of your listed issues has good people on both sides, and one has to be careful to not inadvertently align with the bad guys, just because they happen to reside in the same camp.

 

[lastappleonearth]

I have some leftwing friends. And they are really far left. I vote for a leftwing centrist party but they vote for the most leftwing party in the parliament.
We were at pro-palestine protests. And one of my friends had the theory there is only a small niche group of good people that can be considered politically sane. For me that is in some ways a generalization. Also because I would not be in the in-group by voting for the SPD. Lol. I think some economic policies of Die Linke don't work out in practice. I find the thought interesting anyway. And it will polarize on here.

But he suggested the following filter for finding people to connect to. In favor of Palestine and against the actions of Israel's government. Even though, the problems probably go deeper than the mere government. Something that is very condemned to say in Germany. But it is true the vast majority of the opposition is also in favor of the genocide. Next point. Pro-Ukraine and against Russia. Something that is polarizing within Die Linke. You find a lot of old lefties at protests who have Russia nostalgia a little bit too much.
Then in favor of gender inclusive language. In favor of trans people. And against humanitarian crises all around the world so that such crises are not forgotten in the media coverage. Movements against the climate crisis but that's a common sense position. Against capitalism. In favor of refugees.

I wonder how big the political tent is considering this coalition. Maybe 12% where I live. The degree of appropriate defense spending is highly contested between leftwingers. And the Russia question is debated. Actually, there was a split between Die Linke and the BSW. BSW is an anti-immigration and pro-Russia party. Most of the members once were part of Die Linke. And since they split Die Linke is on the rise because there are less arguments. The BSW was up but is now marginalized.

People who put themselves on a moral pedestal and view their positions as superior to others, are rarely good people in my opinion. Die Linke is just a symptom of societal polarisation in Germany and the whole of Europe basically. Their positions are ideologically driven and often contradict themselves. For some reason the conflict in the Middle East is far more important to them than a conflict actually happening in our continent not far from us, which is affecting us way more directly.

 

[bagel12]

if defining what a "good person" is or enacting what "good people" do was an easy task, we wouldn't have an entire branch of philosophy dedicated to it (ethics), let alone the thousands of religions and belief systems that approach this issue in their own ways.

in my opinion, no group of people can be considered "good people." it is more realistic to acknowledge that each individual has the capacity to do and support "good" actions that help others and "bad" actions that harm others. many actions help one group while harming another group, so an action that is seen as "good" by one individual may be seen as "bad" by another.

who suffers to enable our resource-intensive lifestyles? who suffers to enable our dietary and consumption habits? who suffers to enable our national security, political aims, and economic goals? through our everyday activities and habits, all of us inadvertently harm others in ways we are unaware of, or don't care about enough to change.

 

[whyshouldinot]

I think it's the association itself with 'politically sane' and 'good person'. If you miss one bandwagon you get left in the dust. You aren't allowed to take time and consider things. It honestly makes you more distrust-worthy to do so, since politics are so radical. You aren't allowed to abstain or else you are, at best, allowing the "other side" to do their evil.

This is just a worldwide phenomenon, and I can't really think of a way to stop it.

 

[PersonBeforeLife]

Good person. Practically anyone who isn't an asshole.

Wars are between governments. Not countries. If Russian politicians were priority military targets the war would be over in a week as I doubt they would be happy living under bunkers their whole lives while their bunker supplies run out. Leave innocent civilians out of it! No drafts. Politicians directly perish for their own wars.

Regarding Palestine and Israel. Nuance actually exists. Democratic Palestine hasn't had any major territorial conflicts with Israel for decades if I'm not mistaken. Only Gaza, even moderate Islam UAE has issues with conservative Islam Gaza and has warned the west about it. With that said Israel definitely isn't innocent but neither is Gaza who target civilians brainwashed into supporting the territorial nonsense, a naked dead girl dragged down the streets of Gaza paraded I will never support a side that does that even if means standing against both sides. Again government against government not country against country.

Will never have a bigger deterrent to war than that.

As for myself... Am I a good person?... I don't actually know... But I'm redundant anyway so what does it matter...