Method On the Charcoal-Burning Carbon Monoxide Poisoning Suicide Method

[Shu8]

Sorry for asking more questions.

Can I use coconut shell charcoal?

 

[PaChOnCiTo]

Sorry for asking more questions.

Can I use coconut shell charcoal?

Don't worry about it. Yes, you can use coconut shell charcoal. Just make sure whatever charcoal you're using has a high "purity".

 

[Cat-soul]

Del Traductor de Google:
Solo planeo encender madera y dejar que el carbón permanezca después de que la madera se queme. Y voy a entrar en un pequeño espacio y dejar las brasas encendidas allí.

Esta es la forma en que se hace el carbón común, pero lo hacen en un ambiente sin oxígeno para que la madera no se queme sino que se carbonice. Y tarda mucho tiempo (días) en carbonizarse por completo. Además, determinar la "pureza" del carbón que te queda sería prácticamente imposible. Y, si le importa alcanzar una concentración objetivo en la habitación que usará, debe saber cuánto carbón quedará del trozo de madera con el que comenzará. Personalmente, yo no haría esto, pero si lo has hecho antes o has investigado lo suficiente para saber de lo que estás hablando, entonces adelante.

Ya lo intenté y fallé jajaja. No me ha pasado absolutamente nada justo ahora que leo esto.

 

[PaChOnCiTo]

Ya lo intenté y fallé jajaja. No me ha pasado absolutamente nada justo ahora que leo esto.

From Google Translate:
I already tried and failed lol. Absolutely nothing has happened to me right now that I read this.

Sorry to hear that. Hope that following a more tried way will give you the outcome you're looking for. Why not charcoal briquettes or something of that sort?

 

[Cat-soul]

From Google Translate:
I already tried and failed lol. Absolutely nothing has happened to me right now that I read this.

Sorry to hear that. Hope that following a more tried way will give you the outcome you're looking for. Why not charcoal briquettes or something of that sort?

I tried again looking for a smaller space and letting a lot of monoxide build up but I started vomiting and it was horrible. Third time's the charm...thank you anyway

 

[locked*n*loaded]

For those looking for certainty with the charcoal CO method, a far more reliable way is to acquire a CO meter, if it's within your budget, and do some "test runs" before committing yourself (your health) to your setup. I'd trust that much more than I'd trust any mathematical model for determining whether I reached a comfortable lethal threshold of 10K PPM, since failing at this method can have disastrous consequences. Sure, plenty of people have died with much lesser CO concentration than this, oftentimes unintentionally and in their sleep, but if you want to reach unconsciousness quickly, so as not to suffer the undesirable effects from the CO, the higher you can get the CO level, the better. This is what I'll be doing before going through with my CTB. CO tends to be one of those methods where more is better.

 

[Cleopatra123]

Assuming SATP (Standard Ambient Temperature and Pressure), a volume of 45 m^3, a target concentration of 10 000 ppm and a charcoal "purity" of 90% (composition of charcoal is 90% pure carbon), the calculations yield ~6 kg of charcoal.

The old site had complete instructions and recommended Kingsford Charcoal. 6KG seems like alot, wouldn't one need a huge burner for that. I thought the recommendation was for 2KG, but I may be wrong. However, I read an article about Asian charcoal, which is not highly processed. It is a very frequent method used in Asia. There was an article about a woman who took a bowl into bed in her small room who was quite successful. If it didn't work in an enclosed small bathroom, I wonder how it works in a tent, which is so much more open to the environment.
MY PERSONAL QUESTION IS THIS; I am disabled, though I'd rather not do it at home where there is family, I don't seem to have a choice. I have a large cathedral ceiling bedroom, (a refinished double garage), with a carpeted floor. My idea was to put a small tent inside the room,. I could vent the smoke in an exhaust fan in an open area, then bring the smoking coals inside the tent. Am wondering if the carpet under the tent floor is a danger? Does anyone have any ideas about this. I may look, again after a while, at Asian charcoal if I can find it. Thanks.

 

[PaChOnCiTo]

I tried again looking for a smaller space and letting a lot of monoxide build up but I started vomiting and it was horrible. Third time's the charm...thank you anyway

Aw, sorry to hear that! Remember it is less likely to develop symptoms if you are asleep.

For those looking for certainty with the charcoal CO method, a far more reliable way is to acquire a CO meter, if it's within your budget, and do some "test runs" before committing yourself (your health) to your setup. I'd trust that much more than I'd trust any mathematical model for determining whether I reached a comfortable lethal threshold of 10K PPM, since failing at this method can have disastrous consequences. Sure, plenty of people have died with much lesser CO concentration than this, oftentimes unintentionally and in their sleep, but if you want to reach unconsciousness quickly, so as not to suffer the undesirable effects from the CO, the higher you can get the CO level, the better. This is what I'll be doing before going through with my CTB. CO tends to be one of those methods where more is better.

I agree. Having a CO meter at hand is preferable (not necessary). If this was still my method of choice, I'd also rather have it than not. It's just that they are very expensive (probably at least as much as all the other equipment needed for the method). I wish it wasn't that way but I don't think there's anything we can do about it. That's what my calculations are for. Instead of running my own experiments, I relied on the ones run by people who had access to a 10 000 ppm CO meter. So it is very important to make sure everything is completely airtight. My hope is the calculations make it so that anyone going with this method worries only about airtightness.

The old site had complete instructions and recommended Kingsford Charcoal. 6KG seems like alot, wouldn't one need a huge burner for that. I thought the recommendation was for 2KG, but I may be wrong. However, I read an article about Asian charcoal, which is not highly processed. It is a very frequent method used in Asia. There was an article about a woman who took a bowl into bed in her small room who was quite successful. If it didn't work in an enclosed small bathroom, I wonder how it works in a tent, which is so much more open to the environment.
MY PERSONAL QUESTION IS THIS; I am disabled, though I'd rather not do it at home where there is family, I don't seem to have a choice. I have a large cathedral ceiling bedroom, (a refinished double garage), with a carpeted floor. My idea was to put a small tent inside the room,. I could vent the smoke in an exhaust fan in an open area, then bring the smoking coals inside the tent. Am wondering if the carpet under the tent floor is a danger? Does anyone have any ideas about this. I may look, again after a while, at Asian charcoal if I can find it. Thanks.

There can't be a set recommended amount since it depends, amongst other things, on the size of the room used. There's no secret formula or special kind of charcoal ("Asian charcoal") to use. It's just a matter of composition. The more pure carbon your charcoal has, the better. And, for painlessness reasons, you also want to avoid as many fillers, binders, and additional chemicals as you can. But also keep in mind that, the closer your charcoal is to 100% pure carbon, the "harder" it will be to light (doing so will take a longer time, and so on). I'd personally never use Kingsford briquettes (see below).



It is very dangerous to do this method when others are so directly involved. I don't know the details of your disability but I'd worry about it stopping you from being safe if, say, a fire occurs. A carpeted floor is a big "no". If you really have no choice, do your best to fireproof everything as good as possible. Please reconsider if this method fits your particular situation, really think things through. Be safe with whatever you choose.

 

[Cleopatra123]

Aw, sorry to hear that! Remember it is less likely to develop symptoms if you are asleep.

I agree. Having a CO meter at hand is preferable (not necessary). If this was still my method of choice, I'd also rather have it than not. It's just that they are very expensive (probably at least as much as all the other equipment needed for the method). I wish it wasn't that way but I don't think there's anything we can do about it. That's what my calculations are for. Instead of running my own experiments, I relied on the ones run by people who had access to a 10 000 ppm CO meter. So it is very important to make sure everything is completely airtight. My hope is the calculations make it so that anyone going with this method worries only about airtightness.

There can't be a set recommended amount since it depends, amongst other things, on the size of the room used. There's no secret formula or special kind of charcoal ("Asian charcoal") to use. It's just a matter of composition. The more pure carbon your charcoal has, the better. And, for painlessness reasons, you also want to avoid as many fillers, binders, and additional chemicals as you can. But also keep in mind that, the closer your charcoal is to 100% pure carbon, the "harder" it will be to light (doing so will take a longer time, and so on). I'd personally never use Kingsford briquettes (see below).

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It is very dangerous to do this method when others are so directly involved. I don't know the details of your disability but I'd worry about it stopping you from being safe if, say, a fire occurs. A carpeted floor is a big "no". If you really have no choice, do your best to fireproof everything as good as possible. Please reconsider if this method fits your particular situation, really think things through. Be safe with whatever you choose.

Thank you very much PaChO, I did realize problems in this situation. I'm desperate to find some way. Am dying too slowly and painfully of a chronic disease for which there is no treatment or cure and no end date. As a retired nurse, I can't understand why they insist on people persisting in this situation.

 

[caushin11]

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Assuming a pressure of 100 000 Pa, a volume of 8 m^3, a temperature of 285.65 K (12.5 °C; 54.5 °F), a target concentration of 12 800 ppm, and a charcoal "purity" of 90%, the calculations yield ~2 kg of charcoal. I think I'll use a little more, if the size of the chimneys allows it.

what's charcoal did you use?

Don't worry about it. Yes, you can use coconut shell charcoal. Just make sure whatever charcoal you're using has a high "purity".

what does it meant by high purity charcoal?

 

[Already Gone now]

I don't know how to edit the first message of the thread so I'll just post this one. I figured I would make the whole thing easier to understand for the layperson (I'm no scientist myself) by putting the calculations in very simple terms. Here it is:

X1 = volume (m^3) x 1.129 910 670
X2 = X1 x 0.01
X3 = X2 x 0.428 796 858
X4 = X3 x 1.111 111 111
X5 = X4 x 25.215 270 353

This result, X5 (kg of charcoal), will assume SATP (Standard Ambient Temperature and Pressure), a target concentration of 10 000 ppm and a charcoal "purity" of 90% (composition of charcoal is 90% pure carbon). I removed the units for added simplicity. I hope this is doable.

An even easier way to get X5, still with the restrictions mentioned above, is to do the following:

X5 = volume (m^3) x 0.135 742 806

What's that smell? Charcoal, naw that's my brain after reading this... I'm totally horrible with math... Fuck.

 

[User00]

(disclaimer, dont do what im doing)
i'll be using 10-15 kgs(better safe than sorry) of charcoal, in my shower as well (45-48 cubic meters). Ill be duck taping all holes/cracks. would it be ok if I use two medium sized cooking pots that have no plastic on it, Ill be lining it with Aluminum foil... or is it better I use a grill?(i dont have one and i dont want to buy a portable grill theyre expensive, but if i have to let me know) also be silencing the smoke alarms. Im just scared, I would only have one chance at this since everyone leaving for a week. but I'll still keep trying to execute my ctb regardless.
Im also thinking of also using SN method as well just to be 100% on the safe side and a 100% success rate. Should do that as well or just stick to the CO method alone?

 

[GasMonkey]

If this was still my method of choice

What's your method now?

 

[Gavalar]

Will one of these work in a car?

I couldn't get a charcoal starter to work so need an alternative.

 

[HD72]

For those looking for certainty with the charcoal CO method, a far more reliable way is to acquire a CO meter, if it's within your budget, and do some "test runs" before committing yourself (your health) to your setup. I'd trust that much more than I'd trust any mathematical model for determining whether I reached a comfortable lethal threshold of 10K PPM, since failing at this method can have disastrous consequences. Sure, plenty of people have died with much lesser CO concentration than this, oftentimes unintentionally and in their sleep, but if you want to reach unconsciousness quickly, so as not to suffer the undesirable effects from the CO, the higher you can get the CO level, the better. This is what I'll be doing before going through with my CTB. CO tends to be one of those methods where more is better.

Can you give me the link to a good CO meter. I have no idea what to look for on Amazon. I found one but then it didn't list CO on it

 

[90starve]

Can you give me the link to a good CO meter. I have no idea what to look for on Amazon. I found one but then it didn't list CO on it

amazon will most likely only list meters that measure up to 1000ppm (one thousand).

you need one that will measure up to 10,000ppm (ten thousand), like this one:

https://www.tequipment.net/TPI707.asp?Source=googleshopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxJWDrI_e_wIVDLrtCh0PcA7rEAQYByABEgLTBfD_BwE

 

[HD72]

amazon will most likely only list meters that measure up to 1000ppm (one thousand).

you need one that will measure up to 10,000ppm (ten thousand), like this one:

https://www.tequipment.net/TPI707.asp?Source=googleshopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxJWDrI_e_wIVDLrtCh0PcA7rEAQYByABEgLTBfD_BwE

Thank you. Do I have to calibrate the damn thing. I cannot do anything complicated. I am having some issues with brain damage and I have trouble understanding things that are complicated.