Ok, how effective and pain-free is CO really? Please share everything you know about what to expect or possibly PM me if preferred

[j.rez729]

I'm a wuss. Not in the sense of being easily offended, but just a shivering little wuss when it comes down to the moment of ctb. I can't do heights. I don't like guns. Other methods are terrifying to me. So here were are. Seems it's all I have left unless some wonderful and connected soul reading this has access to a kill pill... ;)

Something I was advised was to go ahead and fill the garage up with CO, wait till it's totally full then just walk in. Was told sitting in the car and waiting is not ideal. What discomfort level am I going to experience if I do it the recommended way I mentioned? I have a hard time believing there will be no pain even though people say it's painless. I hear about people's faces turning bright red. Somehow that doesn't sound painless but maybe it is, I don't know? How quick will it be? What will happen? I don't want to live with brain damage.

 

[L'absent]

I'm a wuss. Not in the sense of being easily offended, but just a shivering little wuss when it comes down to the moment of ctb. I can't do heights. I don't like guns. Other methods are terrifying to me. So here were are. Seems it's all I have left unless some wonderful and connected soul reading this has access to a kill pill... ;)

Something I was advised was to go ahead and fill the garage up with CO, wait till it's totally full then just walk in. Was told sitting in the car and waiting is not ideal. What discomfort level am I going to experience if I do it the recommended way I mentioned? I have a hard time believing there will be no pain even though people say it's painless. I hear about people's faces turning bright red. Somehow that doesn't sound painless but maybe it is, I don't know? How quick will it be? What will happen? I don't want to live with brain damage.

Carbon monoxide (CO) is a dangerous gas that works by binding to hemoglobin in the blood, where hemoglobin normally transports oxygen to various tissues. However, CO has an affinity about 200 times greater than oxygen for hemoglobin, meaning when carbon monoxide binds to hemoglobin, it forms carboxyhemoglobin. This prevents oxygen transport, drastically reducing the amount of oxygen delivered to vital tissues such as the brain and heart, leading to oxygen deprivation (hypoxia) and causing irreversible brain damage, coma, and, if exposure is prolonged, death. Symptoms vary depending on the concentration of CO and the duration of exposure, but can include headaches, dizziness, confusion, nausea, and, in severe cases, loss of consciousness and respiratory arrest. When carbon monoxide is present in high concentrations, the outcome is generally fatal if there is no intervention. Some people may not notice any symptoms, while others can experience very strong symptoms even at low CO concentrations. Some fall asleep slowly without realizing it, while others begin to show severe symptoms in similar situations. This makes the effect of carbon monoxide highly subjective and unpredictable, meaning the method is not infallible. The lethality is high, but not 100%, and depends on various factors such as CO concentration in the environment, exposure duration, and individual sensitivity. The situation changes if high concentrations of carbon monoxide can be obtained through alternative methods other than charcoal or traditional methods of producing the gas. There are also more sophisticated methods that, while requiring technical expertise, can significantly increase lethality and bring it closer to very high values, but even in these cases, success is not guaranteed at 100%.
I have no idea how to produce carbon monoxide at high concentrations, but there are experts on the forum who can help you. The garage is fine, it's intimate and reassuring.

 

[j.rez729]

Carbon monoxide (CO) is a dangerous gas that works by binding to hemoglobin in the blood, where hemoglobin normally transports oxygen to various tissues. However, CO has an affinity about 200 times greater than oxygen for hemoglobin, meaning when carbon monoxide binds to hemoglobin, it forms carboxyhemoglobin. This prevents oxygen transport, drastically reducing the amount of oxygen delivered to vital tissues such as the brain and heart, leading to oxygen deprivation (hypoxia) and causing irreversible brain damage, coma, and, if exposure is prolonged, death. Symptoms vary depending on the concentration of CO and the duration of exposure, but can include headaches, dizziness, confusion, nausea, and, in severe cases, loss of consciousness and respiratory arrest. When carbon monoxide is present in high concentrations, the outcome is generally fatal if there is no intervention. Some people may not notice any symptoms, while others can experience very strong symptoms even at low CO concentrations. Some fall asleep slowly without realizing it, while others begin to show severe symptoms in similar situations. This makes the effect of carbon monoxide highly subjective and unpredictable, meaning the method is not infallible. The lethality is high, but not 100%, and depends on various factors such as CO concentration in the environment, exposure duration, and individual sensitivity. The situation changes if high concentrations of carbon monoxide can be obtained through alternative methods other than charcoal or traditional methods of producing the gas. There are also more sophisticated methods that, while requiring technical expertise, can significantly increase lethality and bring it closer to very high values, but even in these cases, success is not guaranteed at 100%.
I have no idea how to produce carbon monoxide at high concentrations, but there are experts on the forum who can help you. The garage is fine, it's intimate and reassuring.

Wow, thank you. I'm assuming a car would work just fine, no? Was planning on turning it on and waiting outside until the garage was full then going in.

 

[L'absent]

Wow, thank you. I'm assuming a car would work just fine, no? Was planning on turning it on and waiting outside until the garage was full then going in.

The car is not reliable for producing concentrations of carbon monoxide in lethal quantities. You should also get a CO meter.

 

[j.rez729]

The car is not reliable for producing concentrations of carbon monoxide in lethal quantities. You should also get a CO meter.

Says anything above 70 ppm on a CO meter is "too high" so I wonder what the actual golden number is. Probably 100

 

[L'absent]

Says anything above 70 ppm on a CO meter is "too high" so I wonder what the actual golden number is. Probably 100

If you're talking about ppm, starting at 70 ppm you begin to feel the first symptoms like headaches and fatigue, which get worse over time. At 100-200 ppm, symptoms worsen, with nausea, dizziness, difficulty breathing, and confusion that can appear after a while of exposure. At 200-400 ppm, things get serious: within a couple of hours, you might lose consciousness, and organ damage becomes more likely. Between 400 and 800 ppm, the poisoning is severe: in less than an hour, you risk losing consciousness, and damage to the heart and brain becomes more apparent. Above 800 ppm, it's critical: death occurs in less than 30 minutes due to vital organ failure. If you reach over 1600 ppm, death is almost immediate, and within seconds you lose consciousness while vital organs stop functioning in a few minutes. At 3200 ppm or more, it's virtually instantaneous: there's no time to do anything.

 

[j.rez729]

If you're talking about ppm, starting at 70 ppm you begin to feel the first symptoms like headaches and fatigue, which get worse over time. At 100-200 ppm, symptoms worsen, with nausea, dizziness, difficulty breathing, and confusion that can appear after a while of exposure. At 200-400 ppm, things get serious: within a couple of hours, you might lose consciousness, and organ damage becomes more likely. Between 400 and 800 ppm, the poisoning is severe: in less than an hour, you risk losing consciousness, and damage to the heart and brain becomes more apparent. Above 800 ppm, it's critical: death occurs in less than 30 minutes due to vital organ failure. If you reach over 1600 ppm, death is almost immediate, and within seconds you lose consciousness while vital organs stop functioning in a few minutes. At 3200 ppm or more, it's virtually instantaneous: there's no time to do anything.

3200 it is lol

 

[It'sMyLife]

Catalytic converters since 1975 and vastly improved since then. I don't know how much they reduce CO output but it's significant.