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_Gollum_

_Gollum_

I wish the ring had never come to me
Mar 9, 2024
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Just found these "guidelines to assist in making humane decisions regarding euthanasia of horses" in a Guardian article:
  1. A horse should not have to endure continuous or unmanageable pain from a condition that is chronic and incurable.
  2. A horse should not have to endure a medical or surgical condition that has a hopeless chance of survival.
  3. A horse should not have to remain alive if it has an unmanageable medical condition that renders it a hazard to itself or its handlers.
  4. A horse should not have to receive continuous analgesic medication for the relief of pain for the rest of its life.
  5. A horse should not have to endure a lifetime of continuous individual box stall confinement for prevention or relief of unmanageable pain or suffering.
And....wtf? Why doesn't that same standard apply to humans? Why are we capable of recognizing the pointlessness of suffering in the case of non-human animals, but not for humans?

I think this becomes even more egregious when you realize that these are the criteria for allowing someone to make the decision of life or death for someone else, whereas us humans aren't even allowed to make that decision for ourselves. We have to fight so hard to have this basic right and yet it's a no-brainer for non-human animals. No one says "But what if things get better in the future?" to a horse with no quality of life, but they say that all the time to humans in similar situations. It's a sick double standard.
 
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korchoi

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May 15, 2026
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It seems that various interest groups, including the medical community, want to exploit us until the day we die.
 
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itsgone2

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Sep 21, 2025
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Great post.
It does shed light on how odd it is.
It's simply unacceptable to have a horse live in pain.
It's ok for a human to live in pain. Even revive them.
 
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imagonner

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Aug 9, 2026
21
its the same with dogs and cats as well...they re put to sleep so they dont suffer, and rightly so. but humans, yeah, let them suffer, let them lose all dignity...

and on a more cynical note, lets spend shitloads of precious limited money and resources on someone who doesnt know if they re coming or going...

pls make it make sense...
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
4,518
they admit pain can be so bad for animals it would be immoral and horrible to let animals suffer. but humans which are animals too have to continue to suffer unbearably .

yeah it's illogical and evil to steal away the right of every human to move away from unbearable pain

but that's exactly what they have done in this world stolen our most important rights . the right to move away from or escape extreme pain or suffering. then any other kind of suffering. they also stole our right to individual autonomy, to own your life and body , to decide when to exist this hell if you choose . we all will die anyway so it should also be up to the individual when to exit this slavery hell. but they stole all these rights and more

they made every guranteed suicide method into crimes . for example Nembutal which is used as an anesthetic for animals in medium doses and euthanasia for animals and humans in high doses . Nembutal pentobarbital they made a crime to sell and buy and arrested D who sold it online. Sarco suicide pod and assisting suicide they also made those a crime.

it's even more evil and irrational since every human will die anyway and soon too because how fast did the last 5 years pass by? the worst thing is the pleasurable things are extremely fleeting and meaningless . but a second or minute of the worst pain can seem to last for years. nobody wants to go through even 60 seconds of the continuous worst pain , not to mention years of the worst constant pain every second of those years.

i wish i could buy Nembutal or pay someone to shoot me in the head or pay to use the sarco . but they made all those crimes. if someone is in extreme torture or soon will be they cant purchase these ways out but have to suffer extreme torture. so they are the torturers. and anyone who makes justifications for why they banned all these methods is also responsible.

humans like other animals can suffer continuous excruciating unbearable pain.

both should have the right to escape such constant agony , extreme suffering or any continuous suffering

every human should have the right to move away from extreme suffering , from any suffering with suicide.

another thing kept hidden is humans are animals too. both can suffer excruciating constant pain.

it should be even more allowed to humans because an animal doesn't have language to be taught the idea that all animals including humans will die anyway, that the worst pain outweigh the meaningless pleasurable things by a billion times, and there is no meaning to life except to avoid continuous unbearable pain and any other suffering .

the cage for the horse slave is a physical one. for human slaves it's a mental one

how evil is this world? for example someone who attempted suicide or is in an accident will be revived if found alive and then even if in locked in syndrome paralyzed and in pain they are kept alive against their will for decades every second in excruciating pain. the only difference between this world and medieval torture is that medieval torture lasted a few hours while in this world they will torture a person for decades every second extreme torture . that's how evil this world is . and they have everyone thinkin this is fine and wont happen to them but its evil and can happen to anyone.
 
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Golden

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Nov 16, 2023
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Religious people want to keep everyone alive because they believe it's God's will. The medical field wants to keep everyone alive because they can't make money on dead people. These two combined has an enormous amount of money and power.
 
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Passenger4224

I appreciate everything that can kill me.
Mar 8, 2026
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Two reasons: Selfishness and entitlement!
 
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limenlux

Impermanent
Jul 12, 2026
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Just found these "guidelines to assist in making humane decisions regarding euthanasia of horses" in a Guardian article:
  1. A horse should not have to endure continuous or unmanageable pain from a condition that is chronic and incurable.
  2. A horse should not have to endure a medical or surgical condition that has a hopeless chance of survival.
  3. A horse should not have to remain alive if it has an unmanageable medical condition that renders it a hazard to itself or its handlers.
  4. A horse should not have to receive continuous analgesic medication for the relief of pain for the rest of its life.
  5. A horse should not have to endure a lifetime of continuous individual box stall confinement for prevention or relief of unmanageable pain or suffering.
And....wtf? Why doesn't that same standard apply to humans? Why are we capable of recognizing the pointlessness of suffering in the case of non-human animals, but not for humans?

I think this becomes even more egregious when you realize that these are the criteria for allowing someone to make the decision of life or death for someone else, whereas us humans aren't even allowed to make that decision for ourselves. We have to fight so hard to have this basic right and yet it's a no-brainer for non-human animals. No one says "But what if things get better in the future?" to a horse with no quality of life, but they say that all the time to humans in similar situations. It's a sick double standard.
I look forward to informing my doctors that I now identify as a horse for the purposes of my treatment moving forward.
 
lastspaghetti

lastspaghetti

New Member
Jul 31, 2026
2
Another win for horses. I also doubt the vets make them try out seven different ssris before the good ol' ket trip treatment option