No reason for this specie to go on

[Insomniac]

I don't care about the environment and I'm glad it's being destroyed.

There is no reason for the human race to continue. In fact, not just humans. There is no reason for life at all to keep on. Consciousness is the most abject aspect of our experience.

And I'm sure that most life forms are conscious. And as long as Consciousness will exist, suffering will exist.

I suggest that we just nuke the earth. And if possible, the whole solar system.

Dead stars should be the only life form allowed in the universe.

PS: please don't reproduce.

 

[Makko]

Post-apocalypse is comfy

 

[hʚll]

efilism yes

 

[Callie Arcale]

I share in the sentiment that we should stop procreating, but I don't see what you've got against poor Saturn or the other planets in the solar system?! They don't have humans.
:-)

 

[All Things Must Pass]

Post-apocalypse is comfy

The reclaimed by nature aesthetic is. Not so much if there's no nature to reclaim or even planet to be reclaimed.

 

[LakatosDiogenesz]

For every cute baby animal, there's 100 other animals brutally murdered or fallen to illness.
I don't get why people want to save the environment. The environment sucks. If you really think about it, there is zero difference between our planet and a concentration camp.

 

[Desperdición]

Conscience makes us suffer, but it is also the best thing that humanity has to improve the world and that each generation has less reason to suffer than the previous one.

Although the work the world needs is abysmal, I believe that consciousness is only indiscriminately destructive when we try to make sense of everything from an individualist or creationist perspective, trying to make sense of what it cannot have.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I don't get why people want to save the environment. The environment sucks. If you really think about it, there is zero difference between our planet and a concentration camp.

I'm not sure I understand this line of thought. Can you explain further?

I agree that humans are awful. Somewhat miraculously, we are random creatures with the potential to create beauty and art, but our nature leads us to choose conquest, suffering, war, jealousy, and so many evil things. We're a horrible species and we deserve our inevitable self-destruction.

As for the rest of existence, I don't see what the issue is with other planets and stars existing. They are random, just like us. We deserve to end because we're awful. But what's wrong with them? It's just nature — life, landscapes, climate, chemical reactions. Sure, there may not really be a "point" (as we humans understand it) for their existence, but surely there's nothing inherently "wrong" about their existence.

 

[Insomniac]

I'm not sure I understand this line of thought. Can you explain further?

it all comes down to the food chain. creatures cannot exist without eating each other. and we will always eat each other, it's not just animals. humans are cannibals feeding on the suffering on those socially and biologically below them.

and some illnesses are so gross.

Life is just really absurd and gross. all of the suffering is so unnecessary.

but surely there's nothing inherently "wrong" about their existence.

I want the solar system gone because if the sun is the biggest contributor to life, then it must be destroyed to completely eliminate the chances of life happening anywhere ever again.

also, I'm sure neighbouring planets have been tarnished with the earth's filthy energy.

 

[Superdeterminist]

it all comes down to the food chain. creatures cannot exist without eating each other. and we will always eat each other, it's not just animals. humans are cannibals feeding on the suffering on those socially and biologically below them.

and some illnesses are so gross.

Life is just really absurd and gross. all of the suffering is so unnecessary.


I want the solar system gone because if the sun is the biggest contributor to life, then it must be destroyed to completely eliminate the chances of life happening anywhere ever again.

also, I'm sure neighbouring planets have been tarnished with the earth's filthy energy.

I'm glad you shared that video of wild animal suffering. When people praise nature as beautiful I want to show them that kind of video. There's so much pain and horror in nature, it's horrifying. It's likely that thousands of animals meet a gruesome and no doubt agonising end just like that, every single day. People shrug it off as just 'nature doing its thing', when in reality it's a horror show and a serious problem.

 

[LakatosDiogenesz]

it all comes down to the food chain. creatures cannot exist without eating each other. and we will always eat each other, it's not just animals. humans are cannibals feeding on the suffering on those socially and biologically below them.

and some illnesses are so gross.

Life is just really absurd and gross. all of the suffering is so unnecessary.


I want the solar system gone because if the sun is the biggest contributor to life, then it must be destroyed to completely eliminate the chances of life happening anywhere ever again.

also, I'm sure neighbouring planets have been tarnished with the earth's filthy energy.

You managed to explain it better than me. That's basically it. Pain and cruelty aren't things you can remove from the equation. They are inherent in any living being based on genetic code, as they are required for said genetics to replicate themselves. An ethical world can't exist because of all that.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

This is difficult, because I don't think we can say that nature is inherently cruel. It's "cruel" because we interpret it as such using human understanding. Objectively, nature can be destructive and violent, but also peaceful. There is balance there. We view deaths of other animals as cruel because our human psyche typically interprets death as something sad and undesirable (… the whole reason we have to hide our thoughts away in the hidden corners of the web). While I think we can say that each animal typically seeks to survive, I'm not sure we can surmise that they view the deaths of other creatures (even their own family) as harshly as humans view it. It's hard to explain, obviously, but I don't think we can really assign human perceptions to all species.

Human brains cause us to think differently about the world. We're not merely here to survive anymore. We've evolved to care about many other things and need several psychological needs met. Obviously some other species have also evolved like this, but relatively few compared to the vast number of species on the planet. One can argue that it is our advanced human brains that cause us to dread existence so much. The vast majority of species are likely indifferent.

 

[Huntfish34]

Agreed Wisdom.... And what I can call that is basically and Simply, Survival of the fittest. Dont see at all how posting that video clip validates Anything towards wiping out our Entire planet. Thats nature, which Can be Very brutal and bloody sadly, But that shouldnt constitute for a Second that its wrong. Its just Life.. Thats how Nature works. Sorry, just my thoughts on things.
" It's hard to explain, obviously, but I don't think we can really assign human perceptions to all species. " + 1 Well said, Agreed.

 

[Makko]

The reclaimed by nature aesthetic is. Not so much if there's no nature to reclaim or even planet to be reclaimed.

Sterile nuclear winter is also comfy

 

[FuneralCry]

There is no reason for this species to go on, we are only exist because of evolution really, individual human lives are meaningless apart from the purpose of procreation, keeping the species going. It is just a cycle of pain and suffering, bringing new lives into this earth, with unlimited potential in how much they could possibly suffer. We just die anyway so the pain is all for the sake of it. Human beings are very selfish naturally and we do more damage than good to this world.

 

[watchingthewheels]

Fuck your nihilism. Sincerely.

 

[lonerclown666]

imagine having kids and bring more suffering to this world

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

I want the solar system gone because if the sun is the biggest contributor to life, then it must be destroyed to completely eliminate the chances of life happening anywhere ever again.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but life can still exist without the sun.

There are many creatures that evolved in the deep sea where sunlight can't reach.

They exist because of hydrothermal vents on the ocean floor which produce bacteria that they can feed on (quite a recent discovery in the 70's).

Sorry to go all nerd on you! But i do agree with your opinion overall, I think nature is deceptively beautiful but cruel at the same time.

 

[Insomniac]

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but life can still exist without the sun.

There are many creatures that evolved in the deep sea where sunlight can't reach.

They exist because of hydrothermal vents on the ocean floor which produce bacteria that they can feed on (quite a recent discovery in the 70's).

Sorry to go all nerd on you! But i do agree with your opinion overall, I think nature is deceptively beautiful but cruel at the same time.

is there something that we can nuke to stop that too?

 

[𖣴 nadia 𖣴]

is there something that we can nuke to stop that too?

Unsurprisingly, we are already destroying these vents by deep sea mining to extract metal minerals to make more mobile phones, laptops, cars etc.

 

[Insomniac]

Unsurprisingly, we are already destroying these vents by deep sea mining to extract metal minerals to make more mobile phones, laptops, cars etc.

are you a biologist? or is it just a hobby

 

[4eyebiped]

The sun is getting larger and brighter, a natural process for stars due to fusion of hydrogen into helium. Temperatures will rise, oceans will evaporate and the greenhouse effect accelerates (h2o is a powerful greenhouse gas). Then we reach of phase of the atmosphere being ripped away. As the sun gets larger the tidal forces may rip the moon apart and we shall potentially endure fragments of that crashing down. Then at some point as it grows larger and larger and brighter and brighter the earth's crust becomes molten again. I do not think anything is going to survive this no matter how resilient. Certain energy levels, temperature, just doesn't allow for complex molecules to form. In case you fear we will become an interplanetary species or that life exists elsewhere in other galaxies, there is the theorized heat death of the universe that should take care of the rest. Then you have the theory of the big rip where as expansion accelerates you reach of point that everything rips itself apart. You also have false vacuum decay that may occur and will destroy everything, but I am not sure I believe that one. Then again, I lack the IQ to understand anything beyond drooling and foaming at the mouth.

In short, it seems everything eventually will be destroyed, at least until the event that sparked the original big bang, the local expansion of the universe, starts the process all over again and the dice is rolled for the next chance for life to sprout.

Everything came from very simple atoms that formed during that event. In the beginning there was only hydrogen, helium and some lithium that formed after the universe cooled enough for atoms to form. Through many deaths of all the universe's giants, heavier and heavier elements were created. Anyways, I will stop there as not to bore you all to death (pun intended).

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I've said something like this before too. Why should humans be the only ones who we could free from suffering? All life forms from the largest whales to the tiniest microbes all struggle just to sustain themselves only to eventually reproduce and keep the chain of pain going. Even if humans went extinct, who's to say some other sentient species isn't going to rise up and cause even more untold destruction and chaos? They might even be better than us at conquering space and subjugating other civilizations than we could ever hope to be. It's not enough just to have all animals be gone either. Even plants ruthlessly compete for nutrients with each other whether it's by choking out their roots or by blocking their chances to get sunlight.

 

[Insomniac]

Then again, I lack the IQ to understand anything beyond drooling and foaming at the mouth.

really? Is everything you said supposed to be basic knowledge?

 

[NormaJeane]

Humanity will die like all other species, so why do people continue to have children in a world where we all are going to die anyway, I do not understand that. People are programmed to reproduce, but they do it on an overpopulated planet.

 

[Tree frog]

I think these posts show how detached our society has become from the wider living world and we see ourselves as seperate rather than part of it. I think that's why we are all suffering so much too. Nature is not just suffering. There are so many deep levels of cooperation it is incredible to me. We always focus on the 'red in tooth and claw bit' and ignore the cooperation that's happening on a vast scale. I don't think it's a coincidence either, it ties nicely in with our own cut throat society narrative and dare I say it capitalist ideology also.

 

[Callie Arcale]

The sun is getting larger and brighter, a natural process for stars due to fusion of hydrogen into helium. Temperatures will rise, oceans will evaporate and the greenhouse effect accelerates (h2o is a powerful greenhouse gas). Then we reach of phase of the atmosphere being ripped away. As the sun gets larger the tidal forces may rip the moon apart and we shall potentially endure fragments of that crashing down. Then at some point as it grows larger and larger and brighter and brighter the earth's crust becomes molten again. I do not think anything is going to survive this no matter how resilient. Certain energy levels, temperature, just doesn't allow for complex molecules to form. In case you fear we will become an interplanetary species or that life exists elsewhere in other galaxies, there is the theorized heat death of the universe that should take care of the rest. Then you have the theory of the big rip where as expansion accelerates you reach of point that everything rips itself apart. You also have false vacuum decay that may occur and will destroy everything, but I am not sure I believe that one. Then again, I lack the IQ to understand anything beyond drooling and foaming at the mouth.

In short, it seems everything eventually will be destroyed, at least until the event that sparked the original big bang, the local expansion of the universe, starts the process all over again and the dice is rolled for the next chance for life to sprout.

Everything came from very simple atoms that formed during that event. In the beginning there was only hydrogen, helium and some lithium that formed after the universe cooled enough for atoms to form. Through many deaths of all the universe's giants, heavier and heavier elements were created. Anyways, I will stop there as not to bore you all to death (pun intended).

Reading your post reminded me of this video called Timelapse of the future.



Perhaps you'll enjoy it as much as I do. When my anxiety gets really bad, I like to watch it. It gives me a sense of perspective about my own suffering. It makes me understand my true place in the universe, to the extent that is possible.

The Earth, our entire Solar system and even the Milky Way are just a brief flash of light in the infinite darkness that is our world. I almost don't exist. Even if my suffering seems unending to me at this moment, it is not.

 

[Anxieyote]

I took the nukepill after reading this post.

We all need to die so there's no chance of life and consciousness coming back. No animals should be left alive either in case they evolve and become like us.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

In movies I identify normally with the bad guys. Therefore I am proud to belong to the nastiest and most dangerous species in our galaxy.

 

[DanWhoLikesPie]

Fuck your nihilism. Sincerely.

Thank you. For some people, because of the way they're built, CTB is the only way, and I support them! But many people love their lives and love living, and they have the right to that choice just as much as someone has the right to CTB.