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I want to smash a beer bottle at muscular men's faces because I envy them. Fuck them, they get all the best sex while I'm left with nothing and they blame me for being lazy. Fuck that!!!! I spent 30 on trying not to be lazy and it only led to me being suicidal for a decade. I'm so sick of it. The laws of physics failed me and I AM THE VICTIM. Now I want to revenge these motherfuckers.
 
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Hvergelmir

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And when all men bigger and more muscular than you lie in pools of their own blood, what then?

If you can't compete in muscle mass, you're better off competing in other ways. If you just take a walk into any city you'll see people with all kind of physiques having partners.
 
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And when all men bigger and more muscular than you lie in pools of their own blood, what then?
Good question. I've always assumed that seeing them covered with blood will make me instantly happy, feeling catharsis, like "You thought you could get away with everything and nothing bad will happen to you? Fuck you! You're wrong!"

If you can't compete in muscle mass, you're better off competing in other ways. If you just take a walk into any city you'll see people with all kind of physiques having partners.
If I can't compete in muscle mass, then I'm doomed to life of suffering and of sexual and social starvation. It's been a year since I last had sex, I'm losing my mind. I've already been suffering from PTSD and now being lonely only adds more suffering. I can't take it anymore. Even if I compete in other stuff, nothing will ever give me a satisfaction like being sexually or romantically desirable. The game is over for me, all is left now is to continue to feel pain and suffering for the next 50 years until I die. It's so god damn painful.
 
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NihilistBlackpiller

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women arent attracted to muscle buddy, only homosexuals do

the real factors on attraction are height, face and race...nothing really much you can do about it
 
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the real factors on attraction are height, face and race...nothing really much you can do about it
or every women is different and they all have their own personal preferences and nothing really has anything to do with it, some women are just more selfish and stuck up about it (or not even women, people in general. we're not a copy and paste of each other)
 
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...and only interested in very muscular men?
Either way, what Life_and_Death said, still stands.
Unfortunately yes, I am only interested in having sex with very muscular men, I;'m not attracted to an inch less than that and I can't work out, working out only induces anxiety attacks, I also suffer from two bulging discs in my lower back because of my attempt to ctb, so I can't really lift weights.
 
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Hvergelmir

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Unfortunately yes, I am only interested in having sex with very muscular men, I;'m not attracted to an inch less than that and I can't work out, working out only induces anxiety attacks, I also suffer from two bulging discs in my lower back because of my attempt to ctb, so I can't really lift weights.
Isn't there even an entire gay stereotype of big muscular men attracted to smaller leaner men? (I've not had much contact with the gay community myself, and I'm sorry if I'm way off here.)
 
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paredler

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Isn't there even an entire gay stereotype of big muscular men attracted to smaller leaner men? (I've not had much contact with the gay community myself, and I'm sorry if I'm way off here.)
Not much really, when I was skinnier, I did have the chance to have sex with a few muscular men, but it was very rare. I'm now heavier, despite managing to lose 16 pounds, still no one is interested in me. And I may gain all the weight back because I can't bear the feeling of starving myself. No muscular men like fat men.

What?
 
Mirrory Me

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Not much really, when I was skinnier, I did have the chance to have sex with a few muscular men, but it was very rare. I'm now heavier, despite managing to lose 16 pounds, still no one is interested in me. And I may gain all the weight back because I can't bear the feeling of starving myself. No muscular men like fat men.


What?
And I would also reccomend
 
paredler

paredler

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And I would also reccomend
The only way for me to get sex from other muscular men is to have muscles, which I can't do because of both physical and psychological problems that are unfixable. I'm also addicted to sugar and that's another unsolvable problem. I tried dieting for three months but now I broke, I'm so sick of drinking 8 cups of coffee without sugar just to fulfill my stomach to not feel hungry, this lifestyle is unsustainable. I'm in a permanent state of fighting against pain by resting and eating sugar.
 
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Esokabat

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Victimhood is a dangerous play. You will continue to be a victim until you believe in being a victim. And while you are a victim, things that happen to victims will continue to happen to you. Which will increase your feeling of being a victim. Which will increase the experiences that victims have. Until you realize that you own your life fully, no excuses, no blaming others, blaming circumstances, blaming the past, present and future, just fully own your own experience, especially own the thoughts you have, and what those thoughts caused in your life, you will continue to be a victim, with a victim's life and victim's thoughts. Your lack of sexual or other outcome is not due to your outside self, but your inside self
 
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Victimhood is a dangerous play. You will continue to be a victim until you believe in being a victim. And while you are a victim, things that happen to victims will continue to happen to you. Which will increase your feeling of being a victim. Which will increase the experiences that victims have. Until you realize that you own your life fully, no excuses, no blaming others, blaming circumstances, blaming the past, present and future, just fully own your own experience, especially own the thoughts you have, and what those thoughts caused in your life, you will continue to be a victim, with a victim's life and victim's thoughts. Your lack of sexual or other outcome is not due to your outside self, but your inside self
Thanks I'm cured

If we own our lives fully, then why are you on this forum? If we truly owned our lives, we would have made our lives worth living, and wouldn't choose to exit.
 
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If we own our lives fully, then why are you on this forum? If we truly owned our lives, we would have made our lives worth living, and wouldn't choose to exit.
I think what he tried to say was that any solution you employ must stem from yourself.
Adopting the identity and self-image of a week useless individual surrounded by oppression and unfair circumstances, will never yield desired results.

Repeating "unfixable" after every problem you identify, is not productive. Rather accept that you don't know how to fix them. Think about and ask for solutions.
For diets I recommend looking for something healthy you like. Dietists can help with this.
For training I would recommend finding a physical activity you enjoy. I don't believe that you need an actual body builder physique.

I think you can improve on all the problems you've described.
Consider asking psychologists, dietists, and trainers, for advice.
 
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paredler

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Repeating "unfixable" after every problem you identify, is not productive. Rather accept that you don't know how to fix them. Think about and ask for solutions.
For diets I recommend looking for something healthy you like. Dietists can help with this.
For training I would recommend finding a physical activity you enjoy. I don't believe that you need an actual body builder physique.

I think you can improve on all the problems you've described.
Consider asking psychologists, dietists, and trainers, for advice.
I don't find any of these "solutions" sufficient. IF I CAN'T GET THE BODY I WANT, I WANT TO BREAK OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM DISABLED FOR LIFE, I WANT THEM TO JOIN ME IN THE JOURNEY OF MISERY.

I can't do diets. I tried eating mindfully and it drives me crazy. I end up drinking 8 cups of coffee without sugar in order to manage my appetite and it's exhausting.

I don't enjoy anything, let alone physical activity. I spend most of my days lying down in bed and doing nothing.
Adopting the identity and self-image of a week useless individual surrounded by oppression and unfair circumstances, will never yield desired results.
Most people's problems go unsolved. Most poor people remain poor for the rest of their lives for factors outside of their control. Most obese people remain obese till the day they die because our bodies were designed to accumulate fat and save energy. You can't fight against a broken system, whether it's capitalism or evolution, it's way bigger than you, it created you and it will kill you. We are way powerless and hopeless than we would like to admit.
 
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I don't find any of these "solutions" sufficient.
Because they're not solutions, but more general approaches to problem solving.
I'm not qualified to come up with alternatives to sugar or a diet supporting your sugar intake, but a dietist is!
I'm not qualified to come up with a training regiment supporting your circumstances, but there are trainers who are!
IF I CAN'T GET THE BODY I WANT, I WANT TO BREAK OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM DISABLED FOR LIFE, I WANT THEM TO JOIN ME IN THE JOURNEY OF MISERY
But why? Happiness isn't relative. It's not a competition.

Do you seriously believe that causing pain and misery to others would make you happier?
I'm strongly advising you to change your mindset, for your own sake, and for others.

Expand on your wishes, imagine, think deeply, and extrapolate, and you'll probably see where it's going. Unless you're a sadist, you'll find no pleasure in it.
This place is dedicated to reducing suffering, not spreading it.

I'm out.
 
theboy

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I understand sexual absenteeism. It's really not recommended but paying a prostitute is an option. The other is to find a nymphomaniac or a "fuck-friend". The other is to buy a doll or sex toys.
 
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Now I want to revenge these motherfuckers.
Revenge? What revenge? That implies that someone slighted you, but people being gymbros isn't personal to you in any way.
 
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I don't find any of these "solutions" sufficient. IF I CAN'T GET THE BODY I WANT, I WANT TO BREAK OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM DISABLED FOR LIFE, I WANT THEM TO JOIN ME IN THE JOURNEY OF MISERY.
Have you tried boxing? Might help you with the aggression. Unfortunately the most attracting is a person that is at ease with themselves.
Could you try to gradually let go of everything you think you need to be and find out who you are and what you want?

You are under so much pressure... must be hard to connect to other people at all...
 
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Victimhood is a dangerous play. You will continue to be a victim until you believe in being a victim. And while you are a victim, things that happen to victims will continue to happen to you. Which will increase your feeling of being a victim. Which will increase the experiences that victims have. Until you realize that you own your life fully, no excuses, no blaming others, blaming circumstances, blaming the past, present and future, just fully own your own experience, especially own the thoughts you have, and what those thoughts caused in your life, you will continue to be a victim, with a victim's life and victim's thoughts. Your lack of sexual or other outcome is not due to your outside self, but your inside self
i love bs like this, youre absolutely right, as a 1year old child i should "fully own my experiences" its my fault my mother never fed me when i couldnt even walk. LMFAO.
in certain cases (like this thread) yeah, agreed, but to use that as a blanket statement is dismissing of things people went through and heavily suggests "just get over it". ive done just fine crying about what people have done to me that was completely out of my control and still healing. crazy isnt it? lol
 
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In my life I found girls/women which were not attracted by physical appearance. They really exist. These women have different preferences....

However if somebody is "beautiful" (Whatever that means for anybody) + smart + healthy + rich..... He/She won the jackpot.
Not everybody started to play the game of "life" with the same cards....

If I would be given a chance to reborn once again as somebody else... I would like to be somebody like for example Dolph Lundgren (definitelly not this guy, but somebody like him...).
A degree from university in chemical engineering - so his definitelly not dumb, European champion in Karate, speaking multiple languages, a famous, but not too much famous for being top famous. Not being the richest, but not having an empty pocket, healthy to late 60s years when he had cancer... Totally different life than me today.

If you are not "beautiful" (muscular or whatever you consider beautiful), I would consider trying "develop" at least some other positive traits.. If it is possible... The chances that you can find a woman which do not look only to physical appearance is quite great.
 
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They'd beat you up. Anyway, a nice face and slim build is enough to get hot women. No need to be muscular.
 
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Esokabat

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i love bs like this, youre absolutely right, as a 1year old child i should "fully own my experiences" its my fault my mother never fed me when i couldnt even walk. LMFAO.
in certain cases (like this thread) yeah, agreed, but to use that as a blanket statement is dismissing of things people went through and heavily suggests "just get over it". ive done just fine crying about what people have done to me that was completely out of my control and still healing. crazy isnt it? lol
Not victimizing yourself doesn't mean being happy about your life circumstances. However no healing is possible while you think like this OP. This OP says in all caoital letters "I AM THE VICTIM". How much his circumstances are related to his "I AM THE VICTIM" self-beliefs and how much it is his physical attributes? If ypu have any life
experience, you know that plenty of physically not attractive men are successful in society, in business, in relationship, in science, in politics. However I am pretty sure none of them looking themselves in the mirror and have the inner mantra "I AM THE VICTIIM". This guy will always be a victim of his thoughts (not his circumstances). Part of the healing is learning that whatever happened to you, nobody controls your thoughts. Nobody can stop you from learning to love yourself. Accepting that you own your own thoughts, and your own self-love, that is the step towards healing. It is impossible to take even one step forward on the healing journey if you don't stop being a victim and if you don't realize that first and foremost you need to learn to love and accept yourself and find the love that you are looking for from others, inside yourself first. When you are victim, you will not heal. When you have no love, you will not heal. If nobody loves you, start loving yourself. Slowly. Step by step. No rush. And if you cannot control your past, your present, control your thoughts about your past and present. Your thoughts are your own, regardless of circumstances. Being a victim is when you lose full control of everything and your thoughts are just reactions (hate, anger, victimhood) instead of something you take ownership and responsibility. This guy is a victim and if he would have plastic surgery, he would still not be an attractive partner as he is unattractive in the inside, weak, victim, hateful, unaware, not in control, no self love, no love for others. His problem is not what he looks like. Have you heard of the book that was written by a guy in a Nazi concentration camp? The book is called "Man's search for meaning". It describes how one can choose not being a victim and choose his own thoughts even when he is not able to control anything else. Nobody can take that away from you, except yourself. Being a victim is a choice. Quote: "
  • "Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way." ...
 
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Esokabat

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not everyones the same, some people can
And this is why I responded to this OP's thread. As nobody will grow in an echo chamber. Sometimes people need to be shown that they are the problem. Or that they have choices. If people believe they have no choices, then they will indeed not have choices. Self fulfilling prophecy.
 
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I want to smash a beer bottle at muscular men's faces because I envy them. Fuck them, they get all the best sex while I'm left with nothing and they blame me for being lazy. Fuck that!!!! I spent 30 on trying not to be lazy and it only led to me being suicidal for a decade. I'm so sick of it. The laws of physics failed me and I AM THE VICTIM. Now I want to revenge these motherfuckers.
muscular guy here. Um not all of us get women/men. For most of us we gym as a stress outlet. Not necessarily to pick up. Gyming is not hard. It just takes time and dedication. Don't be embarassed if you don't know what to do or what your starting point is (most people love to help new people). When I started the gym I could only bench press the bar. And in fact the women's bar (i think that is 35 pounds). Now I bench 225 lbs for 10 reps. Again, gyming is not hard. Just dedication, proper diet and supplements (LEGAL... so whey protein, creatine, etc.) and u can reach their level as well.
 
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I want to smash a beer bottle at muscular men's faces because I envy them. Fuck them, they get all the best sex while I'm left with nothing and they blame me for being lazy. Fuck that!!!! I spent 30 on trying not to be lazy and it only led to me being suicidal for a decade. I'm so sick of it. The laws of physics failed me and I AM THE VICTIM. Now I want to revenge these motherfuckers.
This is so fucking based. Even on the suicide forum truecels like us get discriminated...
 
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Hvergelmir

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This is so fucking based. Even on the suicide forum truecels like us get discriminated...
There's no discrimination based on your success of lack thereof in your sex life. There's even widespread understanding for involuntary celibacy - many of us have been there, and a significant portion of us still are.

There is however very strong opposition against any individual or group who want to harm others, in this case based on their appearance. It's not just discriminatory, but also violent and irrational.

There are several genuine and respectful attempts to provide helpful advice in this thread...
 
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