Method NEW THEORETICAL METHOD with helium. Cheap, PAINLESS.

[L'absent]

It's the preferred method of Boudewijn Chabot in his book 'Uitweg' (Dignified Dying) and it's actually quite simple and effective. He advised 2 balloon tanks without regulator. The regulator, for me, is the most difficult part in this method.

How is it risky? It's not like the house is going to explode when helium is leaking. As for unreliable: you can do a test run.

You could suffer very serious brain damage. That's where its high risk lies.

 

[ClownWorld2023]

Materials:
40-Liter Garbage Liner:
2 standard 12-Liter helium balloons
Scissors
Elastic rubber band

Procedure:
Put both helium balloons in the bag
Put scissors in bag
Secure bag around head with tight elastic
Quickly cut open both helium balloons
Take slow, deep breaths

I don't know whether it would work, but I have to say it's quite a creative idea of you.

I think ideas like these are good incase the pro-lifers manage to ruin the inert gas method by getting the gas cylinders regulated.

 

[midnight.moon]

N2O from chargers can be released into a cream dispenser and then from the dispenser into a plastic bag which can eventually be put over the head and sealed around the neck.

Unlike helium, nitrogen or argon, nitrous oxide is not only an asphyxiant but also an anesthetic which can turn off sensitivity in 1 - 2 minutes when inhaled in high concentrations, that makes any complications from hypercapnic response even more unlikely.

Can u send link to charger or dispenser?

 

[Intoxicated]

Can u send link to charger or dispenser?

You already provided a link to a pack of 50 chargers that should suffice for testing and CTB. As for cream dispenser, I recommend to look for 0.5L ones with good reviews (where leakage issues are not mentioned too often). They are commonly cheaper and more compact than those of higher volumes. 0.25L dispensers also exist, but releasing N2O from a charger into such a small vessel will form the pressure of nearly 17 atm inside, that is overly high for working with it comfortably and safely.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

You could suffer very serious brain damage. That's where its high risk lies.

There are case studies of survivors who used the helium method and they have no brain damage at all. I'm not saying it's impossible, but "high risk" ?

 

[L'absent]

There are case studies of survivors who used the helium method and they have no brain damage at all. I'm not saying it's impossible, but "high risk" ?

The problem does not depend directly on helium. Helium or other gas or poison that can cause hypoxia is highly risky. Hypoxia, which occurs when the body does not receive enough oxygen, can cause several damages: Brain damage - Possible loss of consciousness - Confusion and lack of orientation - Decreased cognitive abilities - Possible permanent brain damage - Risk of seizures 2. Cardiac compromise: - Arrhythmias and heartbeat irregularities - Possibility of heart attack - Heart failure 3. Breathing problems: - Decreased lung function - Possible accumulation of fluid in the lungs 4. Tissue damage: - Cell death in tissues deprived of oxygen - Risk of gangrene in case of prolonged hypoxia 5. Metabolic alterations: - Accumulation of lactic acid in the body - Changes in the way the body produces energy 6. Effects on the nervous system: - Coordination problems - Difficulty speaking 7. Long-Term Consequences: - Possible deterioration of cognitive abilities - Psychological disorders such as anxiety or depression - Reduction in quality of life

 

[maniac116]

You need industrial helium. Balloon helium is 20% oxygen & will sustain life

 

[midnight.moon]

You already provided a link to a pack of 50 chargers that should suffice for testing and CTB. As for cream dispenser, I recommend to look for 0.5L ones with good reviews (where leakage issues are not mentioned too often). They are commonly cheaper and more compact than those of higher volumes. 0.25L dispensers also exist, but releasing N2O from a charger into such a small vessel will form the pressure of nearly 17 atm inside, that is overly high for working with it comfortably and safely.

Tysm!

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

The problem does not depend directly on helium. Helium or other gas or poison that can cause hypoxia is highly risky. Hypoxia, which occurs when the body does not receive enough oxygen, can cause several damages: Brain damage - Possible loss of consciousness - Confusion and lack of orientation - Decreased cognitive abilities - Possible permanent brain damage - Risk of seizures 2. Cardiac compromise: - Arrhythmias and heartbeat irregularities - Possibility of heart attack - Heart failure 3. Breathing problems: - Decreased lung function - Possible accumulation of fluid in the lungs 4. Tissue damage: - Cell death in tissues deprived of oxygen - Risk of gangrene in case of prolonged hypoxia 5. Metabolic alterations: - Accumulation of lactic acid in the body - Changes in the way the body produces energy 6. Effects on the nervous system: - Coordination problems - Difficulty speaking 7. Long-Term Consequences: - Possible deterioration of cognitive abilities - Psychological disorders such as anxiety or depression - Reduction in quality of life

This reads as if it was produced by ChatGPT. (-:

You need industrial helium. Balloon helium is 20% oxygen & will sustain life

That may be true for the US, but not (yet?) for the rest of the world. That being said, I'd go for the industrial as well.

 

[midnight.moon]

This reads as if it was produced by ChatGPT. (-:

That may be true for the US, but not (yet?) for the rest of the world. That being said, I'd go for the industrial as well.

Yes! That's what I meant to say but couldn't word it correctly! Using the original balloon idea, the immediate loss of consciousness wouldn't be from helium , it would be from the sudden drop in oxygen's concentration.

Do you think it could work?