Quarky00

Quarky00

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Dec 17, 2019
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@Hasssssuùuu , members suggest thread move to off-topic , and that seems right .

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@HadEnough1974 , I do support your sentiments .
I don't think that it belongs on the site at all?
People can chat about other topics .. hence off-topic section.. Ironically , @autumnal made it on-topic ;)
 
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Taraxias

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Feb 22, 2020
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This post is on fire.please stop repling so simple
 
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Living sucks

Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
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People can chat about other topics .. hence off-topic section.. Ironically , @autumnal made it on-topic ;)
Please use entire context to not misrepresent.
I agree with @autumnal I don't think this belongs in the suicide discussion as a matter of fact, the way that it is presented I don't think that it belongs on the site at all? Because no one knows the situation of what's going on and what happened and how and why… There are so many factors that go into all of these things and the news may not be reporting things properly. I feel it's very poor choice currently.
And there ended up being additional factors. I'm out. This is too much ... it's disgusting. It's not a F**%ng joke and that's why!
 
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SpottedPanda

SpottedPanda

I'm all about coffee and cigarettes
Jul 24, 2019
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Doesn't seem like much of a method, to me. There's no way to guarantee somebody putting pressure on your neck, and even if it is assisted suicide, you might as well just be put in a choke hold
 
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Quarky00

Quarky00

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Dec 17, 2019
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Please use entire context to not misrepresent.

And there ended up being additional factors. I'm out. This is too much ... it's disgusting. It's not a F**%ng joke and that's why!
I understand that and I share your sentiments , just saying people talk even without the info (that's how people are) , I'm not saying they should . I agree this would be better off this site . But people can talk . That's all I'm saying . And I wasn't joking about the incident or this place . Sorry if I hurt your feelings . You know I totally respect you .
 
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HadEnough1974

I try to be funny...
Jan 14, 2020
684
Some constructive comments, comic to comic:

You presented your punk provocatively (like the alliteration?), and the topic is at a moment of high emotional charge. Kind of like joking about 9/11 on 9/15 at a demolition convention.

You've made a seemingly rational defense to legitimize the post (see the full comment I quoted), but, really? It was to educate about cartoids? Seems a reframe. "No, no! I was educating you!"

Pssssshh....

Dude.

Your intended audience appreciated you and the chuckle. Others, including villagers with pitchforks, did not, and they're saying so. You're not afraid of the pitchforks, I respect that. Stand your ground. But reframing the original narrative to justify your punk won't dull the pitchfork tines, nor the wits of those who wield them, and it highlights a lack of respect or regard that some felt in the presentation of the OP.

Sometimes being funny backfires. There's always that risk. From a purely comedic perspective, props for showing up and trying. But do you want the audience to be uplifted with laughter, or do you want to poke at their sacred cows and make them hate you, then call it educational when they do? Imo, you can be Amy Schumer, seek to provoke, and give no fucks nor apology, or you can find more intelligent inspirations, if education is more your thing than edginess. If Amy Schumer is your thing, okey dokey. I respect if it is. Personally, I shut her off because I feel assualted by her. I think some members felt the same about the OP.

Peace, and sincere best wishes for your comedic pursuits. One is probably at the height of their powers if they can pull off comedy in a suicide forum. If we were all together irl, you might have accomplished suicide by audience! Though it seems many comics have tried before you and they're still alive, just broke. And probably even more suicidal! :pfff:

I don't disagree with anything you've said @GoodPersonEffed

You're spot on with all your observations. I've committed comedic suicide in a suicide forum, my life is ruined. (Scrambling now to find my Sn).

Love
 
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autumnal

autumnal

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Feb 4, 2020
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Here watch the video. You clearly see his neck being compressed by the officers knee.

The man died because a police officer used his knee to restrict blood flow to the brain.

Are you saying he would have died that day even if the police had not taken the actions they did?

Do you realize you're still contributing to a thread you deem as off topic?


I'm obviously not saying he would have died that day without the police actions, and I think you well know that. I'm saying that the combination of factors that lead to his death mean that his situation is not analogous to the night-night method.

Just because I'm contributing to the thread doesn't mean it's not also off-topic. Especially when my contribution is to repeatedly explain how it is off-topic. Off-topic does not mean irrelevant for any discussion, it means not relevant to the stated forum topic.
 
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Pan

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Oct 24, 2019
914
Hello people of ss,

A new suicide method called The "Derek Chauvin" Method, closely related to the "nite nite" method. Especially lethal if you happen to be black and living in America.

Simply ask a Police officer to force his knee into your neck, cutting off the blood supply to your brain.

Gee uh, sounds uh, uh "very effective". Thanx uh, uh, for the new method.
 
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HadEnough1974

I try to be funny...
Jan 14, 2020
684
@Hasssssuùuu , members suggest thread move to off-topic , and that seems right .

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@HadEnough1974 , I do support your sentiments .

People can chat about other topics .. hence off-topic section.. Ironically , @autumnal made it on-topic ;)

I have no problem having it moved to off topic.
I'm obviously not saying he would have died that day without the police actions, and I think you well know that. I'm saying that the combination of factors that lead to his death mean that his situation is not analogous to the night-night method.

Just because I'm contributing to the thread doesn't mean it's not also off-topic. Especially when my contribution is to repeatedly explain how it is off-topic. Off-topic does not mean irrelevant for any discussion, it means not relevant to the stated forum topic.

The ONLY reason the man died is because of the prolonged knee to the neck. Very similar to the nite nite method. And I thought this thread was long dead lol
 
autumnal

autumnal

Enlightened
Feb 4, 2020
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The ONLY reason the man died is because of the prolonged knee to the neck. Very similar to the nite nite method. And I thought this thread was long dead lol

It seems you either genuinely don't understand how cause of death works, or you are simply pretending not to in order to further troll and push your personal/political agenda. Which in this case is certainly not the wrong agenda to have, BTW, but you don't need to falsely conflate the incident with a suicide method, especially now that this thread has been moved to off-topic. Here it is in the right place for any further discussion, although you don't strike me as open to hearing or understanding any medical evidence.
 
loginboy69

loginboy69

Member
Mar 25, 2020
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Heres a good suicide method . Be coloured in the USA
 
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shipwreck

shipwreck

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May 7, 2020
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County coroner's autopsy concluded cause of death was cardiovascular, with no evidence of asphyxiation. Underlying hypertension and arteriosclerosis plus fentanyl and meth detected in victim's blood cited as contributory factors.

Private autopsy concluded cause of death was asphyxiation caused by knee to neck and second officer putting weight on victim's back, preventing victim from drawing breath.

Coroner's report shifts blame to the victim's health and drug use. Private autopsy places the blame squarely on the police.
 
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HadEnough1974

I try to be funny...
Jan 14, 2020
684
Heres a good suicide method . Be coloured in the USA

@loginboy69 gets it!!
County coroner's autopsy concluded cause of death was cardiovascular, with no evidence of asphyxiation. Underlying hypertension and arteriosclerosis plus fentanyl and meth detected in victim's blood cited as contributory factors.

Private autopsy concluded cause of death was asphyxiation caused by knee to neck and second officer putting weight on victim's back, preventing victim from drawing breath.

Coroner's report shifts blame to the victim's health and drug use. Private autopsy places the blame squarely on the police.

Thank you @shipwreck, exactly my point.
It seems you either genuinely don't understand how cause of death works, or you are simply pretending not to in order to further troll and push your personal/political agenda. Which in this case is certainly not the wrong agenda to have, BTW, but you don't need to falsely conflate the incident with a suicide method, especially now that this thread has been moved to off-topic. Here it is in the right place for any further discussion, although you don't strike me as open to hearing or understanding any medical evidence.

@autumnal there are two sets of medical evidence. The coroners and private autopsy. Which do you prefer to believe?

@autumnal , my political agenda is the advancement of human rights for all people. I am a white gay man living in Canada.
 
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Jon86

Jon86

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Apr 9, 2018
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It's basically the same as partial suspension hanging, ie. cutting off the bloodflow to the brain, George fought it off for a while, that's why he stayed conscious for so long. If done correctly by a train pro this technique ie a blood choke renders one unconscious QUICKLY, death will follow after around 5 mins or so, actually I forget it takes a little bit of time.





Having done bjj, the choke itself doesn't actually hurt unless the person twists/wrenches on the neck, it can be fairly comfy. The difference between these choke outs and using a rope is that the rope doesn't let go thus, you never regain blood flow and die. A rope is also sharper and less comfy compared to someones arms actually choking you out, it also takes a bit longer.
 
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Jumper Geo

Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
Feb 23, 2020
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A new suicide method called The "Derek Chauvin" Method, closely related to the "nite nite" method. Especially lethal if you happen to be black and living in America.

Simply ask a Police officer to force his knee into your neck, cutting off the blood supply to your brain.
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Firstly RIP George Floyd,

You know, this could be something worth exploring not a knee on the neck but using a lumbar roll cushion on the lower side of the neck and then lower the weights down on the other side, usually lifting weights you keep your head facing to the front so if you turn your head to the side and lower them down so it compresses both carotid artery's and you CTB, still cheaper than Nembutal and it will look accidental, you don't have to use the heavy weights just heavy enough to cut of the blood supply, probably best to wrap some cloth or foam around the middle of the bar to make it more comfortable.

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Amnesty

Amnesty

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Jun 2, 2020
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A new suicide method called The "Derek Chauvin" Method, closely related to the "nite nite" method. Especially lethal if you happen to be black and living in America.

Simply ask a Police officer to force his knee into your neck, cutting off the blood supply to your brain.

Firstly RIP George Floyd,

You know, this could be something worth exploring not a knee on the neck but using a lumbar roll cushion on the lower side of the neck and then lower the weights down on the other side, usually lifting weights you keep your head facing to the front so if you turn your head to the side and lower them down so it compresses both carotid artery's and you CTB, still cheaper than Nembutal and it will look accidental, you don't have to use the heavy weights just heavy enough to cut of the blood supply, probably best to wrap some cloth or foam around the middle of the bar to make it more comfortable.

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That is genius, never thought of that.

I imagine this on the International News Heading: Gym mortality rate has increased and nobody knows why. :pfff:
 
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Jumper Geo

Life's a bitch and then you die.
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Firstly RIP George Floyd,

You know, this could be something worth exploring not a knee on the neck but using a lumbar roll cushion on the lower side of the neck and then lower the weights down on the other side, usually lifting weights you keep your head facing to the front so if you turn your head to the side and lower them down so it compresses both carotid artery's and you CTB, still cheaper than Nembutal and it will look accidental, you don't have to use the heavy weights just heavy enough to cut of the blood supply, probably best to wrap some cloth or foam around the middle of the bar to make it more comfortable.

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That is genius, never thought of that.

I imagine this on the International News Heading: Gym mortality rate has increased and nobody knows why. :pfff:
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Yes you don't have to use the big heavy weights either just heavy enough to block the blood supply, I wonder if SS will do corporate gym membership, lol

Cheers

Geo
 
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Pan

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Oct 24, 2019
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The Chauvin method is police baiting and racist..that you would swallow this bogus nonsense seems barely credible and simply oozes black racism. Help! Are we in the dark ages or what? Small wonder that I loathe the United States and everything it stands for. Black white right left; the song is an old olde older still refrain. I have so much work to do in my home in Belize, At least there you have un limited ctb options, including guns. You Americans are clinically insane! And George Floyd? Never heard of the man. Am awaiting a flood tide of political correctitude. So what. Let it come.
County coroner's autopsy concluded cause of death was cardiovascular, with no evidence of asphyxiation. Underlying hypertension and arteriosclerosis plus fentanyl and meth detected in victim's blood cited as contributory factors.

Private autopsy concluded cause of death was asphyxiation caused by knee to neck and second officer putting weight on victim's back, preventing victim from drawing breath.

Coroner's report shifts blame to the victim's health and drug use. Private autopsy places the blame squarely on the police.
I am not surprised in the least; but by all means, fault the police, huh?
Outrageous that a poorman's death should be relegated to the level of a suicide method. Hello? Earth calling!
 
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HadEnough1974

I try to be funny...
Jan 14, 2020
684
The Chauvin method is police baiting and racist..that you would swallow this bogus nonsense seems barely credible and simply oozes black racism. Help! Are we in the dark ages or what? Small wonder that I loathe the United States and everything it stands for. Black white right left; the song is an old olde older still refrain. I have so much work to do in my home in Belize, At least there you have un limited ctb options, including guns. You Americans are clinically insane! And George Floyd? Never heard of the man. Am awaiting a flood tide of political correctitude. So what. Let it come.

I am not surprised in the least; but by all means, fault the police, huh?
Outrageous that a poorman's death should be relegated to the level of a suicide method. Hello? Earth calling!

No comments ;) I'll let others comment on your comments.
Firstly RIP George Floyd,

You know, this could be something worth exploring not a knee on the neck but using a lumbar roll cushion on the lower side of the neck and then lower the weights down on the other side, usually lifting weights you keep your head facing to the front so if you turn your head to the side and lower them down so it compresses both carotid artery's and you CTB, still cheaper than Nembutal and it will look accidental, you don't have to use the heavy weights just heavy enough to cut of the blood supply, probably best to wrap some cloth or foam around the middle of the bar to make it more comfortable.

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That is genius, never thought of that.

I imagine this on the International News Heading: Gym mortality rate has increased and nobody knows why. :pfff:
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Makes perfect sense, told you I was onto something!!
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
914
You are on to nothing, this poor man did'nt ask to die. Why not describe this bogus suggestion to the poor man's family? No, you would'nt dare do that, would you?
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
6,727
The Chauvin method is police baiting and racist..that you would swallow this bogus nonsense seems barely credible and simply oozes black racism.

First, the OP was an attempt at satire. La falta es tuyo that you would swallow it as legitimate.

Satirical or not, it is indeed police baiting but it is not racist. It is, to make a new word, policeist - against the police and their abuse.

The following is the definition of racism, which police use to profile and harass citizens based on suspicion of their skin color, not their actions, and which the US justice system uses to give harsher penalties to Blacks and Latinos (Belize is Latin as well, yes?):

Racism

  • prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
  • the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

Small wonder that I loathe the United States and everything it stands for. Black white right left; the song is an old olde older still refrain.

Something we agree on. I'm an American who's lived in Central America for several years. I have disliked the climate of the States for decades with regard to politics and widespread ignorant social beliefs such as racism, imperialism disguised as spreading democracy, and abuses on the populace by all sectors of government.

I have so much work to do in my home in Belize, At least there you have un limited ctb options, including guns.

Huh? Word salad?

You Americans are clinically insane!

Not all of us.

I once kissed a man from Belize who worked in a restaurant. Therefore, you Belizeans are all a bunch of dishwashers who can't kiss for shit!

And George Floyd? Never heard of the man. Am awaiting a flood tide of political correctitude. So what. Let it come.

Ohhhhh, so you don't really know what we're talking about and just wanted to spew vitriol. Maybe from all the work you're doing in your home? Did you hit your thumb with a hammer? Anyhow, thanks for clearing up the confusion about why you were going off and not making any sense, it's because you have no understanding of the topic. That's not being politically incorrect, it's being uninformed but acting like you know anything about the topic and jumping in with random opinions.

I am not surprised in the least;

¡Más ensalada de palabras que significa nada sobre nada! Mmmm, que rico......¿Tienes un aderezo de limón para bañarla? And if you want to criticize my Spanish grammar, it's no worse than your spouting random, unrelated opinions and insults with your English grammar.

If they weren't racist against Mexicans (which is what they would call you), I'd recommend you hang out with Southern American rednecks. I used to live among them, I'm telling you, you'd get along if only you were white.

but by all means, fault the police, huh?

Now who's "clinically insane"? Do you know anything about American police or the Black Lives Matter movement?

Please tell me about how Belizeans are abused by their government systems so I can defend those systems.

¡Bonita noche!
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
914
No comments!? Why not? Because you know that this poor man's death is no doubt something he never wanted, much less relegated to the level of a ctb method.
Belizeans, while uh, bad kissers as you put it, do not worship at the alter of black lives matter, but they despise the u.s. as much as ever, blaming it's pop culture for everything it has done to Belize. A beautiful country turned into a trash heap, and all because of you Americans. In your overly simplistic description of belizeans, I detect a whiff of boo! - racism.
No, not word salad; it's called TYPO
I am making perfect sense, your feeble attempt at gaslighting notwithstanding. Down with the U.S.A.!
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
6,727
Because you know that this poor man's death is no doubt something he never wanted, much less relegated to the level of a ctb method.

You mean...the poor man you never heard of?

:O...:hihi:...:))...:ahhha:...:pfff:
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
914
Meanwhile, outside of the u.s.a. Islamic radicals are biding their time .watching...waiting...They have on thing on their side—-ideology.
Face it, you Americans , the so called third world hates everything you stand for.
Clearly, I uh, reaped the whirlwind with my comments. I feel it is important, however, that dissenting opinions like mine are not needlessly disregarded; in short, dissent of any ideological persuasion, should not be demonized. Chairman Mao Tse Tung said "let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred school of thought contend. MAO MORE THAN EVER!
 
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Pan

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Oct 24, 2019
914
Partial elf made racist comments regarding belizean, remarkable ng hat they are dishwashers and are LOL bad kissers. Note it: the same person who deplorable racism is herself a racist.
 
Grey-zone

Grey-zone

Student
Feb 2, 2019
147
Last I checked Belizeans speak English. It was called the British Honduras. Never been there. Latin America seems even worse than the US in terms of liveability and lifestyle. And the US sucks. I don't blame Pan for hating our cultural domination though. We've shat all over the world with our music and fashion that it's barely recognizable. As for the protests they may or may not be justified but I definitely smell some virtue signalling. The court case should be interesting.
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
914
Belizeans. speaking English fluently; it is a former crown colony , after all. . I also speak
Creole and Garifuna (an obscure language originally from MOTHER AFRICA. ). I notice that partial elf has deleted her racist scripting; namely, that all belizeans are dishwashers and bad kissers. What I want to know from Partial Elf is which part is human and which part is uh, elfin?
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The so called third world HATES the u.s.a. and bleeds it for tourist dollars, as it should be. Americans are a despicable lot; they bleed their host countries dry, , all the while trashing host countries with their Milky Way wrappers, their pop art, their empty styrofoam coffee cups. Down with the U.S.A.!
Where is partial elf, i'd like to know? Cringing? Hiding? I told belizean friends of mine; they are outraged. Bienvenudo. Balize!
 
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