New Suicide Method - The “Derek Chauvin” Method...

[HadEnough1974]

Hello people of ss,

A new suicide method called The "Derek Chauvin" Method, closely related to the "nite nite" method. Especially lethal if you happen to be black and living in America.

Simply ask a Police officer to force his knee into your neck, cutting off the blood supply to your brain.

Police officer filmed kneeling on George Floyd's neck charged with murder

Derek Chauvin charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter as county prosecutor suggests additional charges may be brought

www.theguardian.com

 

[autumnal]

I do appreciate this is an understandably major issue in the US right now, but is the Suicide Discussion subforum the most appropriate place for this kind of (seemingly) off-topic post/debate?

 

[LifeAfterDeath00]

I do appreciate this is an understandably major issue in the US right now, but is the Suicide Discussion subforum the most appropriate place for this kind of (seemingly) off-topic post/debate?

yes, it is.

 

[autumnal]

yes, it is.

How so? It might be an apt and snappy analogy, but that doesn't automatically make it on-topic.

 

[enjolras]

Say, American History X ?

 

[Living sucks]

I agree with @autumnal I don't think this belongs in the suicide discussion as a matter of fact, the way that it is presented I don't think that it belongs on the site at all? Because no one knows the situation of what's going on and what happened and how and why… There are so many factors that go into all of these things and the news may not be reporting things properly. I feel it's very poor choice currently.

 

[InTheAirTonight]

The Chauvin method, very aptly named as well.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

The antisuicide protocol is active for him. He can't kill himself so he won't have an own method.

 

[maru.]

I agree with @autumnal and @Living sucks

I actually clicked this thinking that there was really a new suicide method, and i was happy and excited.
It's always nice to have more options, especially when you consider the possibility of the current options being less accessible in the future.

Now, i clicked, realized that it wasn't the case, and now i'm more bummed out than i usually am.
Not saying this shouldn't exist or should be deleted, but it should definitely be moved to off-topic.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

This thread is off topic

 

[HadEnough1974]

I do appreciate this is an understandably major issue in the US right now, but is the Suicide Discussion subforum the most appropriate place for this kind of (seemingly) off-topic post/debate?

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I agree with @autumnal and @Living sucks

I actually clicked this thinking that there was really a new suicide method, and i was happy and excited.
It's always nice to have more options, especially when you consider the possibility of the current options being less accessible in the future.

Now, i clicked, realized that it wasn't the case, and now i'm more bummed out than i usually am.
Not saying this shouldn't exist or should be deleted, but it should definitely be moved to off-topic.

Have you ever heard of suicide by police?

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Have you ever heard of suicide by police?

And the method of death is exactly the same as applying pressure to the arteries on the sides of your neck, nite nite method.

 

[maru.]

Have you ever heard of suicide by police?

Yes, i have.
That doesn't change much in this case.
Suicide by police is something that i would never even think about attempting, it's just not my preference.
The thread title begins with "New Suicide Method", i though it was actually a completely new discovery or something, a new option, so it was misleading in a way.
Reading "Derek Chauvin" didn't change my expectations because i don't live in the USA and i, personally, prefer to avoid news, so i didn't know what the name meant.

And the method of death is exactly the same as applying pressure to the arteries on the sides of your neck, nite nite method.

The same thing i just said still applies, it's not a new method.
Keep the thread here if you want, i'm not demanding anything and i'm not trying to start a fight or make personal attacks.
All i'm saying is that this thread made me excited at first, then dissapointed, which is why i think moving it is appropriate, so it doesn't do this to anyone else.
Perhaps i'm taking this too seriously, i apologize if that's the case, i have a hard time understanding things sometimes.
Take care, my friend.

 

[HadEnough1974]

Yes, i have.
That doesn't change much in this case.
Suicide by police is something that i would never even think about attempting, it's just not my preference.
The thread title begins with "New Suicide Method", i though it was actually a completely new discovery or something, a new option, so it was misleading in a way.
Reading "Derek Chauvin" didn't change my expectations because i don't live in the USA and i, personally, prefer to avoid news, so i didn't know what the name meant.



The same thing i just said still applies, it's not a new method.
Keep the thread here if you want, i'm not demanding anything and i'm not trying to start a fight or make personal attacks.
All i'm saying is that this thread made me excited at first, then dissapointed, which is why i think moving it is appropriate, so it doesn't do this to anyone else.
Perhaps i'm taking this too seriously, i apologize if that's the case, i have a hard time understanding things sometimes.
Take care, my friend.

It's ok don't worry, I did not take it as a personal attack. Take care to you as well.

 

[muffin222]

I find this post to be in very poor taste, and I question your intentions for phrasing it in this manner. It's crass

 

[autumnal]

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Have you ever heard of suicide by police?


And the method of death is exactly the same as applying pressure to the arteries on the sides of your neck, nite nite method.

I'm afraid you're drawing a really long bow here. I understand your passion about this incident, I really do, but that doesn't make it automatically relevant to any situation.

Yes I've obviously heard of suicide by police, but this incident wasn't suicide by police. And I doubt you are seriously raising it for that purpose. Instead, you are making social and political commentary on that spurious pretext.

As others have said, this post is not only off-topic, it is in very poor taste. Assuming you aren't just trolling, and do genuinely feel so passionately about this incident, you aren't doing any favours to the memory of the victim nor the ongoing cause by trivializing his death in this manner.

Had you posted this thread in the correct off-topic forum from the start, you would have by now have gained both numerous statements of support from members (including myself), as well as shared links or petitions that could actually hope to make a tangible difference in the real world.

At some stage when this thread is doubtless seen by mods and moved to the relevant section, I hope you show the maturity to both accept that decision (rather than label other members or mods as being racist or pro-police) and to continue contributing to it in that new location even though it is less edgy and controversial.

 

[Marktheghost]

I thought it was quite an amusing post myself.

 

[autumnal]

I thought it was quite an amusing post myself.

Perhaps, but the issue isn't whether or not it is amusing, it's whether or not it is off-topic.

 

[HadEnough1974]

I'm afraid you're drawing a really long bow here. I understand your passion about this incident, I really do, but that doesn't make it automatically relevant to any situation.

Yes I've obviously heard of suicide by police, but this incident wasn't suicide by police. And I doubt you are seriously raising it for that purpose. Instead, you are making social and political commentary on that spurious pretext.

As others have said, this post is not only off-topic, it is in very poor taste. Assuming you aren't just trolling, and do genuinely feel so passionately about this incident, you aren't doing any favours to the memory of the victim nor the ongoing cause by trivializing his death in this manner.

Had you posted this thread in the correct off-topic forum from the start, you would have by now have gained both numerous statements of support from members (including myself), as well as shared links or petitions that could actually hope to make a tangible difference in the real world.

At some stage when this thread is doubtless seen by mods and moved to the relevant section, I hope you show the maturity to both accept that decision (rather than label other members or mods as being racist or pro-police) and to continue contributing to it in that new location even though it is less edgy and controversial.

The knee on the neck compressed the carotid artery which is exactly how the "night night" method works. In the original post I make reference to this. If we watch the full video, we see the victim lose consciousness within the first 5 minutes.

That's just pressure on ONE side of the neck. Imagine how much faster a person would die if that same amount of pressure was added to both sides of the neck.

As for, is it off topic, we are witnessing on that video exactly what is described in the night night megathread, death due to compression of the carotid artery.

As for the way I presented it, I like to be amusing. If the mods move it off topic, let them, I won't complain, I have better things to do. Lol

 

[autumnal]

The knee on the neck compressed the carotid artery which is exactly how the "night night" method works. In the original post I make reference to this. If we watch the full video, we see the victim lose consciousness within the first 5 minutes.

That's just pressure on ONE side of the neck. Imagine how much faster a person would die if that same amount of pressure was added to both sides of the neck.

As for, is it off topic, we are witnessing on that video exactly what is described in the night night megathread, death due to compression of the carotid artery.

As for the way I presented it, I like to be amusing. If the mods move it off topic, let them, I won't complain, I have better things to do. Lol

Well, to be fair there was absolutely nothing in your original post that suggested it was anything other than an off-topic political reference. If you merely wanted to provide relevant examples of the night-night method, I'm sure there are any number of martial arts, police or military training choke-hold videos on YouTube. These would better depict both the technique and the intention of that method.

I'm not knowledgeable on the Floyd incident, but I would imagine that both panic and positional asphyxia might also have been contributing causes of death, neither of which have a relevance to the night-night method. That is not to imply that the death was anything other than unlawful, just that the mechanism of action may not have been from neck compression alone.

 

[StateOfMind]

loool jokes post

 

[HadEnough1974]

Well, to be fair there was absolutely nothing in your original post that suggested it was anything other than an off-topic political reference. If you merely wanted to provide relevant examples of the night-night method, I'm sure there are any number of martial arts, police or military training choke-hold videos on YouTube. These would better depict both the technique and the intention of that method.

I'm not knowledgeable on the Floyd incident, but I would imagine that both panic and positional asphyxia might also have been contributing causes of death, neither of which have a relevance to the night-night method. That is not to imply that the death was anything other than unlawful, just that the mechanism of action may not have been from neck compression alone.

If you're not knowledgeable in the Floyd incident and the manner in which he died and how it's closely related to the night night method then you are wasting your time and mine and contributing to a thread you deem as off topic and political in nature.

You're welcome ;)

 

[autumnal]

If you're not knowledgeable in the Floyd incident and the manner in which he died and how it's closely related to the night night method then you are wasting your time and mine and contributing to a thread you deem as off topic and political in nature.

You're welcome ;)

Wait, what?

I am knowledgeable enough about the Floyd incident to know what happened overall. What I meant was that I was not knowledgeable enough to say definitively whether panic or positional asphyxia also played a part.

I've since read up on the autopsy reports, and these state that he died from both asphyxia due to compression of the neck restricting oxygen flow to the brain, and from compression to his back which interfered with breathing. Obviously, only the first of these factors is analogous with the night-night method, and even that analogy is an oversimplified and inaccurate one. Floyd also had a number of medical conditions related to his heart, was intoxicated on fentanyl and had used meth recently. These may well have contributed to his death. It is the presence of those additional factors which make this death an overall poor analogy with the night-night method, as well as make the post off-topic and in somewhat poor taste.

 

[GoBack]

Um this wasn't suicide by cop at all though...

 

[HadEnough1974]

Wait, what?

I am knowledgeable enough about the Floyd incident to know what happened overall. What I meant was that I was not knowledgeable enough to say definitively whether panic or positional asphyxia also played a part.

You just contradicted yourself.


I've since read up on the autopsy reports, and these state that he died from both asphyxia due to compression of the neck restricting oxygen flow to the brain, and from compression to his back which interfered with breathing. Obviously, only the first of these factors is analogous with the night-night method, and even that analogy is an oversimplified and inaccurate one. Floyd also had a number of medical conditions related to his heart, was intoxicated on fentanyl and had used meth recently. These may well have contributed to his death. It is the presence of those additional factors which make this death an overall poor analogy with the night-night method, as well as make the post off-topic and in somewhat poor taste.

Here watch the video. You clearly see his neck being compressed by the officers knee.

The man died because a police officer used his knee to restrict blood flow to the brain.

Are you saying he would have died that day even if the police had not taken the actions they did?

Do you realize you're still contributing to a thread you deem as off topic?

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[ZardozOmega]

be black man, get choked to death by the police. this world is fucked.

 

[Aap]

I guess if you add fentanyl and meth, then it might be relevant...but not here

 

[Taraxias]

Stop replying in order for this topic to be buried

 

[HadEnough1974]

Um this wasn't suicide by cop at all though...

It wasn't suicide by cop, however, if you wanted to commit suicide by cop and you happen to be black, just ask a cop for a knee in the neck. Usually, they shoot you, but this dick used his knee to cut off blood supply to the brain, similar to the nite nite method.

So I managed to highlight the night night method, give people some hope that a cop might put them out of their misery and brought attention to police brutality in America. Mission accomplished.

Stop replying in order for this topic to be buried

Exactly my point!! If it's off topic, stop replying.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

As for the way I presented it, I like to be amusing. If the mods move it off topic, let them, I won't complain, I have better things to do. Lol

Some constructive comments, comic to comic:

You presented your punk provocatively (like the alliteration?), and the topic is at a moment of high emotional charge. Kind of like joking about 9/11 on 9/15 at a demolition convention.

You've made a seemingly rational defense to legitimize the post (see the full comment I quoted), but, really? It was to educate about cartoids? Seems a reframe. "No, no! I was educating you!"

Pssssshh....

Dude.

Your intended audience appreciated you and the chuckle. Others, including villagers with pitchforks, did not, and they're saying so. You're not afraid of the pitchforks, I respect that. Stand your ground. But reframing the original narrative to justify your punk won't dull the pitchfork tines, nor the wits of those who wield them, and it highlights a lack of respect or regard that some felt in the presentation of the OP.

Sometimes being funny backfires. There's always that risk. From a purely comedic perspective, props for showing up and trying. But do you want the audience to be uplifted with laughter, or do you want to poke at their sacred cows and make them hate you, then call it educational when they do? Imo, you can be Amy Schumer, seek to provoke, and give no fucks nor apology, or you can find more intelligent inspirations, if education is more your thing than edginess. If Amy Schumer is your thing, okey dokey. I respect if it is. Personally, I shut her off because I feel assualted by her. I think some members felt the same about the OP.

Peace, and sincere best wishes for your comedic pursuits. One is probably at the height of their powers if they can pull off comedy in a suicide forum. If we were all together irl, you might have accomplished suicide by audience! Though it seems many comics have tried before you and they're still alive, just broke. And probably even more suicidal!

 

[beyond_aquila_rift]

Why ain't this thread locked?

It's wildly inappropriate and anyone engaging with OP is a clown. Come on now...