Help New Person looking for advice

[Stan]

Hi

Don't want to get to why I am here, but here I am! Had to look up what CTB was and I guess its apt and a better way of saying it. I have been looking at the options and really wanted a painless and stress free CTB method. My considerations were that nobody was going to be harmed or distressed by the event which ruled out jumping off a high place or in front of a train. Not a big pain person so hanging and cutting were ruled out. So started to favour the exit bag with inert gas. Looking around the net to pull it together it looked like I was ending up spending hundred of pounds which is a bit difficult for me. Am I going overkill on what I am looking for in the way of tank, regulator etc as when I first started research someone said they spent £90 for the whole thing and my research is taking it well over £200. Or if there's something I can take that would be inconclusive in an autopsy would be great so it looks like a mystery and perhaps the family get the life insurance.

Any help or tips would be gratefully received, I live in the UK so answers with suppliers of cheaper stuff or other ways would have to factor that in. Thanks

 

[Nanimoaru]

Accidental?

 

[Stan]

Its not an important thing at all for it to look accidental. But for my want to CTB, I am a bit concerned for the ones I leave behind. Not sure if there is a stigma attached to it for those I leave behind, if I could have the best of both worlds and leave and for them just to be sad it would be better but I know there is a slim chance of that happening

 

[Nanimoaru]

Its not an important thing at all for it to look accidental. But for my want to CTB, I am a bit concerned for the ones I leave behind. Not sure if there is a stigma attached to it for those I leave behind, if I could have the best of both worlds and leave and for them just to be sad it would be better but I know there is a slim chance of that happening

You mentioned that you wanted your parents to get the life insurance too
Thus why i mentioned it

 

[Stan]

that is true, it would be nice for them to get something, but as I said , its a nice to have rather than a need. Just joined tonight and beginning to read the peace pill book. Reading about Fentanyl and that it is hard to detect sometimes in a post mortem. But I wouldn't know where to start getting something like that. Not sure whether a street dealer would have it

 

[Nanimoaru]

that is true, it would be nice for them to get something, but as I said , its a nice to have rather than a need. Just joined tonight and beginning to read the peace pill book. Reading about Fentanyl and that it is hard to detect sometimes in a post mortem. But I wouldn't know where to start getting something like that. Not sure whether a street dealer would have it

They cut street drugs with it i heard

 

[Winter_Flower]

that is true, it would be nice for them to get something, but as I said , its a nice to have rather than a need. Just joined tonight and beginning to read the peace pill book. Reading about Fentanyl and that it is hard to detect sometimes in a post mortem. But I wouldn't know where to start getting something like that. Not sure whether a street dealer would have it

If you find a way of getting Fentanyl or anything else please let me know x

 

[Frank]

You might find fentanyl on the streets but you're better off looking for it on the dark net even so it might be out of your price range since you'd likely have to buy more than you need.

 

[Stan]

I'm a bit of an mid life tech idiot so the dark web, even though I installed it is a bit of a mystery. I see someone has put a guide up so will have another attempt

 

[Lookingforabus]

So, on the topic of life insurance, read your policy. If you've had it for a while, it may well pay out in the case of suicide. (Mine will not, but the whole "life insurance never pays out for suicide" belief is not entirely accurate - depends on the policy, and how long you've had it.)

As far as method goes, phenobarbital is quick, painless and hard to detect in an autopsy, but is expensive, illegal and hard to procure. There's just one reliable source these days, and a lethal dose would cost about 600 pounds. If you're in good health and fairly young, there's a good chance it would be detected in autopsy (since "natural causes" is pretty rare for healthy, young folks).

Inert gas is also quick, painless and hard to detect in autopsy, so long as you can get someone to remove the apparatus for you after death. (Seems pretty hard, but maybe you know someone who would - make sure they take measures to avoid CCTV, wear disposable bootie and gloves, basically leave no evidence or they're at legal risk.) I put my setup together for about $200, but not sure about UK availability or pricing. Again, there are subtle signs in an autopsy, so it's hard to detect, but if you're healthy and relatively young, it probably will be ruled a suicide, even if you get someone to remove the apparatus.

Another possibility is an opiate overdose - if you use street drugs (fentanyl/"heroin"), it will probably look like an accident, be rolled into the opiate epidemic and that's that. It's also relatively cheap to get enough for a lethal dose and widely available. Could be problematic for life insurance. The open secret about insurance in general is that it's a highly predatory business which basically relies on denying as many claims as possible, because it's the only feasible way of making a decent profit (if they raise prices, they lose business to cheaper providers en mass, everyone has the same actuarial tables so there's no real way to gain an advantage there, etc.). In the case of life insurance, the relevant details is that they almost universally have a clause denying payment in the case of illegal activity... which includes street drugs. Check your policy, but be aware.

Sodium Nitrate is allegedly cheap and effective, but too time consuming for my taste, and definitely going to be figured out in an autopsy. Whatever form of hanging or ligature strangulation is basically the same deal. Quick and effective, but obviously suicide. Same for jumping - if you wish to avoid traumatizing folks, you can look up well known suicide jump spots in the UK and it'll be first responders who are used to it that find your body.

As far as "accidentally" dying, I've been trying for a long time, it's harder than you think. Perhaps if I lived somewhere colder, or in more rugged terrain, or had hiking and outdoorsy things as hobbies, I'd have pulled it off. I advise thinking it through a bit. What do you do or have nearby that might be dangerous and what do you do that might explain stupid or reckless behavior? For me, I'm a drinker and well known to drive way too fast, like cold weather and generally live dangerously. I've wrecked several cars (single car accidents in the middle of nowhere), but modern cars are tough. Between safety features and "black boxes" that record crash data, you can't just floor it into a tree or off a cliff or whatever, and what I ended up doing was basically abusing my tires until they'd be at risk of blowing out in a fast, sharp turn... and that they did, but it obviously didn't work, and going through cars like normal people go through birthdays is not cheap. I've tried getting drunk and trying to die via hypothermia, but it's just not cold enough where I am, and that's a slower, less pleasant way to go than I'd like, and drunk + long "accidental" fall is just not an option where I live. Your situation may be different. In the UK, specifically, there's a well known tendency to prefer a finding of "death by misadventure" over suicide, so in your spot, I'd look to reported "death by misadventure" cases for inspiration. Obviously, clear your search history and electronics first, or digital investigations will give you away.

 

[Stan]

@Lookingforabus Thanks

 

[Alec]

What to me look like the most peaceful methods that I found out about are SN(Sodium Nitrite) and N(Nembutal) but N is harder to get and it seems the last supplies that people here were ordering from has gone silent for now although I'm not fully updated on this situation, search for N here. I chose SN for me, ordered it on eBay, still haven't arrived but I hope it will, Ive been waiting for 3 weeks now, but it's supposed to be a legal substance so I think it will arrive fine. It's not really expensive but it's best with anti emetics and acid regulators, again look this method up here.