Nembutal time

[Ruffian]

Surely in some degree the situation matters to you if you are:

1. Making claims that EC doesn't provide accurate testing
2. Telling people about alleged claims in PMs and giving them other options. Circumventing a rule on the forum, perhaps?

This sounds like some shilling to get others to go through other vendors to get drugs (or pentobarbital in this case) tested. Anyone can make accusations. Go for it. EC, the company that is backed in the PPH, has some reputation to them. There have been a handful of investigative journalists who have talked to them about what they're doing. A search online will backup this claim. Wired has responded to them. Simon Hunter, a Spanish->English translator for El Pais just published an article about them earlier this afternoon. Actually, a quick search on that newspaper leads to me a handful of articles talking about the authenticity of testing that they do.

There's always a risk of sending packages internationally to a research facility. It isn't cheap either. There are also plenty of other companies that do this. Perhaps not testing pentobarbital, but they do offer other select services.

Not really interested in hearing detailed information. What I'm worried about is you mentioning how a company isn't doing reliable testing and say zip about it. It's a loaded accusation that genuinely means nothing. I have more faith in the amount of work journalists have done with this company than I have some shilling in PMs of other options.

Normally I wouldn't put much effort into arguing online with someone... but I do believe that people should be given information about not getting fucked over.

~~~

You've mentioned the scandal of a company being recommended for powder pentobarbital. I know nothing about it and it really doesn't change my opinion about Exit. You take a risk when going through these services. You should know willingly if you're putting money into these underground services that you have the chance of getting ripped. While it isn't feasible for each and everyone on this forum, if you're purchasing as an example N online through A, make sure you can cover your losses. No reason to put money towards this that you'd use for a mortage bill. Users on this forum (and even across other forums) have mentioned that Diego isn't a reliable seller. Yet for some reason he is still mentioned in the latest edition I have of PPH. Another accusation is the reliability of sodium nitrite.

Generally, what Exit does, is fine with me. There's going to be misinformation floating around but at least they're giving people a nice direction at ending their lives. Something that I respect a lot from Philip and co.

Edit: I expected as much to hear "it's friends of friends" thing. It's a trend on here and people fall into it. Be a skeptic when you hear this kind of shit. It really opens the opportunity for people to prey on you wanting to end your life.

This may be another thread, but I have to ask: Since you mentioned the reliability of sodium nitrate, is there speculation that it may not be reliable? I questioned it in a thread and I guess by my tone or what I said I really made someone mad. It just seems to me that I see a lot of postings about people failing with SN as opposed to never hearing about someone failing with N or a firearm. And I even stated it could be due to them being injured or damaged - idk I acknowledged the possibilities that those two methods could cause non-fatal harm or get you locked up in the psych ward. Maybe I will make a thread, but I'm going to check out the mega-thread first. Just curious about your thoughts.

 

[brighter]

The only person getting sensitive and rude is yourself sadly that's obvious by your replies :-)

You Promoted a service to others that you have no experience of using yourself ( fact )
as I said > Fair play to you.

I stated >
I know all about Energy Control In Spain and their results :-)
Good luck with accurate % of purity from them

Whether you wish to accept that advice is your choice.

I have nothing to prove if people want to use Energy Control that's their choice and if you want to promote them fine.
So I don't see your problem. You can be known as their PR officer.

What Info I share with others in PM is their business and mine. If that bothers you tough :-)

Be careful you don't wet yourself with excitement lol

And this is why I love you @Passingby :)

 

[HelensNepenthe]

This may be another thread, but I have to ask: Since you mentioned the reliability of sodium nitrate, is there speculation that it may not be reliable? I questioned it in a thread and I guess by my tone or what I said I really made someone mad. It just seems to me that I see a lot of postings about people failing with SN as opposed to never hearing about someone failing with N or a firearm. And I even stated it could be due to them being injured or damaged - idk I acknowledged the possibilities that those two methods could cause non-fatal harm or get you locked up in the psych ward. Maybe I will make a thread, but I'm going to check out the mega-thread first. Just curious about your thoughts.

There are medical papers of people dying from ingesting sodium nitrite. Google Scholar will probably lead you in the right direction there. Google and other search engines normally censor results but you can get around it by looking up methemoglobinemia. You'll probably see something relating to it. What it seems like to be is that yeah? It's possible to die with it but I really don't know much to give you a proper answer. Normally people talk about it being reliable and just kind of troll or go with what the symptoms are in PPH.

I'd be cautious with the amount of advice you take from the forum. You see, as for an example, you have a couple of users grouping up claiming that a company isn't responsible -- yet thousands of people have used their service legitimately in Spain, especially. People prey on the forums to get people to purchase product or sway their ideas into a different direction.

Be responsible and do your own research. If SN is something, consider holding out until April 6 for the recent Exit workshop.

~~~

@Passingby You're an actual tard. Now you're strong arming on some ridiculous point that I haven't used the company. Yeah, of course not. I have no substance for them to test. That has jack shit to do with what we were talking about. You're yet making another claim that people who have investigated the company are not being genuine either. But we should just trust your word that you shouldn't use them!

You're so caught up in your own fantasy by shilling to people in PMs when they're the most vulnerable. Good grief. I hope that remains on your conscious.

Ohoho, you think I'm now affiliated with EC. Surprise. I have no affiliation with them and I'm pretty far away from their facility. I don't know a lick of Spanish either. Very scary! Got it. We should take your word and have you be a predator to others who are wanting to move on. So you advertise in PMs about sites you should get your N (or other drugs) tested.

Point is: If you're going to make a claim, back it up besides being a bitch about it saying "oh it's private". What a cowardly move.

 

[ddutch]

may take up to 24 hours, you can still be saved, maybe you return with brain damage instead of ctb. just mentioning

Yeah for people that are on opioden for cancer it can take some hours. But with 20 gram that wont take long. Thhat is even more than with end of life clinic who use 15 grams and there they unconscious within 3 minutes and die in a hour or 2.
What you are saying is with people who only have 6 grams or so and than yes the N peek in the blood takes longer to get that high so coma gets stretch over time and takes longer to die.

 

[Bittersweet]

Hey everybody. So I have 20g of Nembutal and I'm wondering how long you think it will take for me to go unconscious after I drink it. Like will I have time to get into bed or will I just pass out then and there on the ground. Any insight would be appreciated.

Dude I've used some of mine. You will be unconscious in a few minties

 

[Ruffian]

There are medical papers of people dying from ingesting sodium nitrite. Google Scholar will probably lead you in the right direction there. Google and other search engines normally censor results but you can get around it by looking up methemoglobinemia. You'll probably see something relating to it. What it seems like to be is that yeah? It's possible to die with it but I really don't know much to give you a proper answer. Normally people talk about it being reliable and just kind of troll or go with what the symptoms are in PPH.

I'd be cautious with the amount of advice you take from the forum. You see, as for an example, you have a couple of users grouping up claiming that a company isn't responsible -- yet thousands of people have used their service legitimately in Spain, especially. People prey on the forums to get people to purchase product or sway their ideas into a different direction.

Be responsible and do your own research. If SN is something, consider holding out until April 6 for the recent Exit workshop.

~~~

@Passingby You're an actual tard. Now you're strong arming on some ridiculous point that I haven't used the company. Yeah, of course not. I have no substance for them to test. That has jack shit to do with what we were talking about. You're yet making another claim that people who have investigated the company are not being genuine either. But we should just trust your word that you shouldn't use them!

You're so caught up in your own fantasy by shilling to people in PMs when they're the most vulnerable. Good grief. I hope that remains on your conscious.

Ohoho, you think I'm now affiliated with EC. Surprise. I have no affiliation with them and I'm pretty far away from their facility. I don't know a lick of Spanish either. Very scary! Got it. We should take your word and have you be a predator to others who are wanting to move on. So you advertise in PMs about sites you should get your N (or other drugs) tested.

Point is: If you're going to make a claim, back it up besides being a bitch about it saying "oh it's private". What a cowardly move.

Thank you for that well thought out and helpful advice.

 

[color_me_gone]

And this is why I love you @Passingby :) ❤

Ditto! :) ❤

 

[Memento Mori]

Yeah for people that are on opioden for cancer it can take some hours. But with 20 gram that wont take long. Thhat is even more than with end of life clinic who use 15 grams and there they unconscious within 3 minutes and die in a hour or 2.
What you are saying is with people who only have 6 grams or so and than yes the N peek in the blood takes longer to get that high so coma gets stretch over time and takes longer to die.

are you comparing OLD people euthanasia with YOUNG people taking N without any medical check/background? what about the ppl who ended in COMA instead of dying? to me it doesn't matter if you take 6g, or 20g, or 50g. it depends on YOU and YOUR BODY and METABOLISM (and eventual tolerance) what will happen. if not 24h, then maybe 8hours, and that may already be too much time. let's just say people should choose a place where they are "safe" for at least 12hours or something like that.

peace

 

[ddutch]

are you comparing OLD people euthanasia with YOUNG people taking N without any medical check/background? what about the ppl who ended in COMA instead of dying? to me it doesn't matter if you take 6g, or 20g, or 50g. it depends on YOU and YOUR BODY and METABOLISM (and eventual tolerance) what will happen. if not 24h, then maybe 8hours, and that may already be too much time. let's just say people should choose a place where they are "safe" for at least 12hours or something like that.

peace

Calm down wtf
When you are perfectly healthy and young it will take longer old people die faster.

For example a guy with cancer in america in a documentary took it and took 7hours to die 15 grams
And a other same age woman around 60 healthy but depressed was death in one hour also in a documentary also 15grams

So the sick guy takes longer because of the opioids.

Healthy and you take 20 never you will take 24 hours to die.

And chill with capital LETTERS LOL

 

[Ssrejisser]

Calm down wtf
When you are perfectly healthy and young it will take longer old people die faster.

For example a guy with cancer in america in a documentary took it and took 7hours to die 15 grams
And a other same age woman around 60 healthy but depressed was death in one hour also in a documentary also 15grams

So the sick guy takes longer because of the opioids.

Healthy and you take 20 never you will take 24 hours to die.

And chill with capital LETTERS LOL

What documentary was it?

 

[dandan]

Calm down wtf
When you are perfectly healthy and young it will take longer old people die faster.

For example a guy with cancer in america in a documentary took it and took 7hours to die 15 grams
And a other same age woman around 60 healthy but depressed was death in one hour also in a documentary also 15grams

So the sick guy takes longer because of the opioids.

Healthy and you take 20 never you will take 24 hours to die.

And chill with capital LETTERS LOL

You impress with your intelligence and knowledge about N, and how it works.

Are you a doctor? or a profesional N researcher? did you went to the N Academy?

So sick guys takes longer, because of the opiods? ooooh okay , okay, cool cool

ooooh now I understand.... look ->

ddutch
Wise

you have been labeled as a Wise person , thumbs up

 

[ddutch]

You impress with your intelligence and knowledge about N, and how it works.

Are you a doctor? or a profesional N researcher? did you went to the N Academy?

So sick guys takes longer, because of the opiods? ooooh okay , okay, cool cool

ooooh now I understand.... look ->

ddutch
Wise

you have been labeled as a Wise person , thumbs up

Who the fuck are you.
And no but i am fucking reading as much as i can for the last 2years now.
And am in the euthanasia process myself so i do meet doctors

Do you really know me its show your lack in respect for others just like the last guy.
Some people overreact just like you mister respectful.

Probably labeled because people gossip and dont know anything about me.
And they are just rude people are like that here.

What documentary was it?

Hi
It was in louis theroux last documentary of him.

And a Dutch one can not find it now think it was from Vice about the end of life clinic.
But there is a new one coming when its online i will put the link in the page for everyone who wants to see it.

Have a good night

 

[dandan]

Who the fuck are you.
And no but i am fucking reading as much as i can for the last 2years now.
And am in the euthanasia process myself so i do meet doctors
......
Have a good night

sorry ... my mistake

 

[Memento Mori]

Calm down wtf
When you are perfectly healthy and young it will take longer old people die faster.

For example a guy with cancer in america in a documentary took it and took 7hours to die 15 grams
And a other same age woman around 60 healthy but depressed was death in one hour also in a documentary also 15grams

So the sick guy takes longer because of the opioids.

Healthy and you take 20 never you will take 24 hours to die.

And chill with capital LETTERS LOL

if you think that i already have to calm down then better NEVER EVER make me angry for real lol. i used capital letters for the important words, whats wrong about six big words in a text block? i feel like some people just don't really read posts and reply to them, so i'm going to write the important words in capital letters now when i am discussing with someone i feel like he didn't understand what i mean.

back to your reply: the first sentence is self-explaining and logical. and the rest...well, kinda the same? i already know about tolerance, that's what i mentioned ABOVE. now you made an example stating the same thing that i already said: with tolerance it takes longer.

why are you mentioning that one is sick and another one is healthy? i would rather say it that way: the guy who took opioides and had tolerance needed MORE time to die than the person on NOTHING/antidepressants/anything else without cross tolerance. if both had tolerance i would guess that the old person will die FASTER than the young person. that sounds logical.

sadly i have to tell you this: healthy (and with healthy i guess you only mean no tolerance, your example was kinda confusing. let's leave that out, and about cancer: i have no idea if that may inflict the process) people also survived N, and this was not the case because they took only 2g of it.

i don't like that many people here act like they are the ultimate doctors because they watched some documentary and read some facts or posts. you just CANT KNOW the metabolism of an individual. but you CAN SEE the cases where people fucked up even after perfect preparation. and then they are found often before they're dead. (i hope that timespan doesn't feel painful) better warn people about the WORST CASE instead of saying "no no its alright just take it in your garden you will die anyways in EXACTLY 1-59minutes."

some things may only be found out if tested. but i appreciate that you try to make people more ease with the thoughts of messing up, it's just russian roulette no matter what you or i would say about it. and no i'm still not mad lol

let's end this discussion here and hope that people do enough research about their health status before trying to drink N. since barbiturates were used legal there should be enough in the internet to do some research about complications which lead to death and which may lead to coma or extreme brain damage, but it'll still be just an experience from another individual. supporting barbiturates with alcohol benzos and opiates sounds like the best way to go if you're able to swallow it, but it will never be a guarantee with a time limit. you don't want to be THE ONE who woke up. dying is hard man, it feels like a big troll where suiciders have to live and survive no matter what they try, while happy people must die. fucking bullshit

 

[ddutch]

What documentary was it?

I remember the second one.
It was a documentary from the end of life clinic but it is in dutch.
So if you want i can send the link?

sorry ... my mistake

Thats ok. Dont worry i am not that difficult.

 

[Ssrejisser]

Who the fuck are you.
And no but i am fucking reading as much as i can for the last 2years now.
And am in the euthanasia process myself so i do meet doctors

Do you really know me its show your lack in respect for others just like the last guy.
Some people overreact just like you mister respectful.

Probably labeled because people gossip and dont know anything about me.
And they are just rude people are like that here.


Hi
It was in louis theroux last documentary of him.

And a Dutch one can not find it now think it was from Vice about the end of life clinic.
But there is a new one coming when its online i will put the link in the page for everyone who wants to see it.

Have a good night

Thank you @ddutch

I remember the second one.
It was a documentary from the end of life clinic but it is in dutch.
So if you want i can send the link?


Thats ok. Dont worry i am not that difficult.

I found the Louis Theroux one, thanks. About the 2nd one, I won't be able to understand it. Unless it has English subtitles. ☺

 

[FauxEmotions]

I remember the second one.
It was a documentary from the end of life clinic but it is in dutch.
So if you want i can send the link?


Thats ok. Dont worry i am not that difficult.

As long as it's subtitled I would like a link, or at least the name of the Doc. :)

 

[ddutch]

if you think that i already have to calm down then better NEVER EVER make me angry for real lol. i used capital letters for the important words, whats wrong about six big words in a text block? i feel like some people just don't really read posts and reply to them, so i'm going to write the important words in capital letters now when i am discussing with someone i feel like he didn't understand what i mean.

back to your reply: the first sentence is self-explaining and logical. and the rest...well, kinda the same? i already know about tolerance, that's what i mentioned ABOVE. now you made an example stating the same thing that i already said: with tolerance it takes longer.

why are you mentioning that one is sick and another one is healthy? i would rather say it that way: the guy who took opioides and had tolerance needed MORE time to die than the person on NOTHING/antidepressants/anything else without cross tolerance. if both had tolerance i would guess that the old person will die FASTER than the young person. that sounds logical.

sadly i have to tell you this: healthy (and with healthy i guess you only mean no tolerance, your example was kinda confusing. let's leave that out, and about cancer: i have no idea if that may inflict the process) people also survived N, and this was not the case because they took only 2g of it.

i don't like that many people here act like they are the ultimate doctors because they watched some documentary and read some facts or posts. you just CANT KNOW the metabolism of an individual. but you CAN SEE the cases where people fucked up even after perfect preparation. and then they are found often before they're dead. (i hope that timespan doesn't feel painful) better warn people about the WORST CASE instead of saying "no no its alright just take it in your garden you will die anyways in EXACTLY 1-59minutes."

some things may only be found out if tested. but i appreciate that you try to make people more ease with the thoughts of messing up, it's just russian roulette no matter what you or i would say about it. and no i'm still not mad lol

let's end this discussion here and hope that people do enough research about their health status before trying to drink N. since barbiturates were used legal there should be enough in the internet to do some research about complications which lead to death and which may lead to coma or extreme brain damage, but it'll still be just an experience from another individual. supporting barbiturates with alcohol benzos and opiates sounds like the best way to go if you're able to swallow it, but it will never be a guarantee with a time limit. you don't want to be THE ONE who woke up. dying is hard man, it feels like a big troll where suiciders have to live and survive no matter what they try, while happy people must die. fucking bullshit

Long story ok lol
I dint know who marked me. As wise or what ever.

On the capital letters here it means you are pissed off hahahaha different thing
only when it is official we mark it fat

But yeah logical thinking exactly.
I repeated the digestion over an over again here, can not always keep repeating myself.
But really overall here where i am from with the organisation they all state its over fast.
Grandama of a friend of mine who had euthanisia few weeks ago was death in 10 minutes.
but some take just a hour and others longer when they take heavy medication.
I even posten a protocol document here a few times that i have of the organisation to help people calm down or get it clear that goes more in the use of medications and side effects on N.
But yes also taking in consideration people do suffer of paranoide trades here alot, its sade but Sanctioned is not sanctioned for no reason right ?, everybody got there problem psychological or otherwise.

but we got that clear now :)

As long as it's subtitled I would like a link, or at least the name of the Doc. :)

this one . no subs for eng but tought send it anyway

other one also about a girl who had euthanisia

As long as it's subtitled I would like a link, or at least the name of the Doc. :)

this is the one of louis theroux

 

[Hotsackage]

Hey everybody. So I have 20g of Nembutal and I'm wondering how long you think it will take for me to go unconscious after I drink it. Like will I have time to get into bed or will I just pass out then and there on the ground. Any insight would be appreciated.

Where did you get it lol. Tx

Where did you get it lol. Tx

Nm ignore lol

 

[FauxEmotions]

Long story ok lol
I dint know who marked me. As wise or what ever.

On the capital letters here it means you are pissed off hahahaha different thing
only when it is official we mark it fat

But yeah logical thinking exactly.
I repeated the digestion over an over again here, can not always keep repeating myself.
But really overall here where i am from with the organisation they all state its over fast.
Grandama of a friend of mine who had euthanisia few weeks ago was death in 10 minutes.
but some take just a hour and others longer when they take heavy medication.
I even posten a protocol document here a few times that i have of the organisation to help people calm down or get it clear that goes more in the use of medications and side effects on N.
But yes also taking in consideration people do suffer of paranoide trades here alot, its sade but Sanctioned is not sanctioned for no reason right ?, everybody got there problem psychological or otherwise.

but we got that clear now :)



this one . no subs for eng but tought send it anyway

other one also about a girl who had euthanisia



this is the one of louis theroux

Thank you.

 

[ddutch]

QUOTE="FauxEmotions, post: 277957, member: 6715"]
Thank you.
[/QUOTE]



This one is with English she is gone fast

 

[Memento Mori]

Long story ok lol
I dint know who marked me. As wise or what ever.

On the capital letters here it means you are pissed off hahahaha different thing
only when it is official we mark it fat

But yeah logical thinking exactly.
I repeated the digestion over an over again here, can not always keep repeating myself.
But really overall here where i am from with the organisation they all state its over fast.
Grandama of a friend of mine who had euthanisia few weeks ago was death in 10 minutes.
but some take just a hour and others longer when they take heavy medication.
I even posten a protocol document here a few times that i have of the organisation to help people calm down or get it clear that goes more in the use of medications and side effects on N.
But yes also taking in consideration people do suffer of paranoide trades here alot, its sade but Sanctioned is not sanctioned for no reason right ?, everybody got there problem psychological or otherwise.

but we got that clear now :)

On the capital letters here it means you are pissed off hahahaha different thing
only when it is official we mark it fat

fine, seems like you also have a diplomatic grade in psychology? lol. great job in reading myself better than me! thanks for explaining me, wouldn't know what to do without you. what has to be official to be allowed to mark it fat or write it in big letters? lol
now you are gonna say that YOU are repeating yourself? alright, then it's totally my mistake that you write some unclear **** about connections between being sick and needing more time to die from anesthetics because of SICKNESS not OPIATES. i'm not the only one who didn't see any sense in that sentence, but you also didn't explain. please read my big letters please, they are made big for YOU...only you my dear. why am i wasting one hour of my night trying to make some internet professor in anesthetics and psychology understand what I mean and what HE means?

i won't repeat myself over and over again TOO dude. i'll just say one last time: don't compare grandmas with random people. don't compare statistics from an euthanasia organization for OLD people to young people. how many young people have they killed/helped to die? tell me. tell me the time they needed to die, from the second they took it up to the second you heard the last heartbeat. how many protocols and studies do you have about this? you know shit about this, same goes for me, but i'm open for mentioning the worst case even if it is not important to me because i won't die from N. one last time before i leave this thread and disable notifications for it: i want to say that people shouldn't be sure about any given time duration, no matter if they're 20 or 30, no matter if cancer or not, no matter if a freaking doctor tells you it's gonna be fine for sure. humans make MISTAKES and MISCALCULATIONS, and next to that every person is individual. i know people who can take 400mg of MDMA and they will feel just nothing, not even get big pupils, while they react insanely allergic to one milligram of another substance. and now i'm pissed, no wonder if i continue replying here, i'm done but one last sentence in pissed mode: stop praising fucking nembutal as the holy grale of easy peasy goodbyes for all cases and life situations. accept that EVERYTHING is unsafe, accept that you won't fail with N but there's still a 0,0000000000000000000001% chance. and prepare for that chance (like choosing the right place, more than only one two hours until someone finds you, that's my fucking point here) so that you dont return as vegetable if you don't want this.

sorry if anyone feels offended. this feels like discussing with my ex lol. and i know how shitty i am so i always try to overthink my words to see other perspectives, don't know if i am capable of that so i'm just gonna say what i think now, maybe it's right maybe it's not: we're talking past each other. i don't care anymore if you accept my thoughts, i wrote down what i wanted to, even though two sentences could also have been enough for that. i'll quote something from my older posts:

are you comparing old people euthanasia with young people taking N without any medical check/background? what about the ppl who ended in coma instead of dying? to me it doesn't matter if you take 6g, or 20g, or 50g. it depends on you and your body health and metabolism (and eventual tolerance) what will happen. if not 24h, then maybe 8hours, and that may already be too much time. let's just say people should choose a place where they are "safe" for at least 12hours or something like that.

maybe this discussion could have already ended at that point, but my capital letters got ya, even though i was not pissed, more trying to prevent that you don't read my textwall properly, you have to be used to some ignorance on SS sometimes. and to make that clear, with coma in that post i meant real coma, not just short 12h-coma-before-death. u heard nothing about such complications?

and now i'm out of this.

btw i can't see any protocol posted by you, what about linking it here, should be no problem since this is a barbiturates thread too. wanna see what informations you have to share. and no i'm not asking this pissed, more curious, thx

 

[bigj75]

Don't you have to take those pills that settle your stomach? So you won't barf?

 

[Johnnythefox]

Kind of odd how the OP hasn't been back on since he made the thread.

 

[ddutch]

fine, seems like you also have a diplomatic grade in psychology? lol. great job in reading myself better than me! thanks for explaining me, wouldn't know what to do without you. what has to be official to be allowed to mark it fat or write it in big letters? lol
now you are gonna say that YOU are repeating yourself? alright, then it's totally my mistake that you write some unclear **** about connections between being sick and needing more time to die from anesthetics because of SICKNESS not OPIATES. i'm not the only one who didn't see any sense in that sentence, but you also didn't explain. please read my big letters please, they are made big for YOU...only you my dear. why am i wasting one hour of my night trying to make some internet professor in anesthetics and psychology understand what I mean and what HE means?

i won't repeat myself over and over again TOO dude. i'll just say one last time: don't compare grandmas with random people. don't compare statistics from an euthanasia organization for OLD people to young people. how many young people have they killed/helped to die? tell me. tell me the time they needed to die, from the second they took it up to the second you heard the last heartbeat. how many protocols and studies do you have about this? you know shit about this, same goes for me, but i'm open for mentioning the worst case even if it is not important to me because i won't die from N. one last time before i leave this thread and disable notifications for it: i want to say that people shouldn't be sure about any given time duration, no matter if they're 20 or 30, no matter if cancer or not, no matter if a freaking doctor tells you it's gonna be fine for sure. humans make MISTAKES and MISCALCULATIONS, and next to that every person is individual. i know people who can take 400mg of MDMA and they will feel just nothing, not even get big pupils, while they react insanely allergic to one milligram of another substance. and now i'm pissed, no wonder if i continue replying here, i'm done but one last sentence in pissed mode: stop praising fucking nembutal as the holy grale of easy peasy goodbyes for all cases and life situations. accept that EVERYTHING is unsafe, accept that you won't fail with N but there's still a 0,0000000000000000000001% chance. and prepare for that chance (like choosing the right place, more than only one two hours until someone finds you, that's my fucking point here) so that you dont return as vegetable if you don't want this.

sorry if anyone feels offended. this feels like discussing with my ex lol. and i know how shitty i am so i always try to overthink my words to see other perspectives, don't know if i am capable of that so i'm just gonna say what i think now, maybe it's right maybe it's not: we're talking past each other. i don't care anymore if you accept my thoughts, i wrote down what i wanted to, even though two sentences could also have been enough for that. i'll quote something from my older posts:

are you comparing old people euthanasia with young people taking N without any medical check/background? what about the ppl who ended in coma instead of dying? to me it doesn't matter if you take 6g, or 20g, or 50g. it depends on you and your body health and metabolism (and eventual tolerance) what will happen. if not 24h, then maybe 8hours, and that may already be too much time. let's just say people should choose a place where they are "safe" for at least 12hours or something like that.

maybe this discussion could have already ended at that point, but my capital letters got ya, even though i was not pissed, more trying to prevent that you don't read my textwall properly, you have to be used to some ignorance on SS sometimes. and to make that clear, with coma in that post i meant real coma, not just short 12h-coma-before-death. u heard nothing about such complications?

and now i'm out of this.

btw i can't see any protocol posted by you, what about linking it here, should be no problem since this is a barbiturates thread too. wanna see what informations you have to share. and no i'm not asking this pissed, more curious, thx

Are you high ?

About the capital letters i said here we use that different in social conversations or official like in a work place, thats all.

So why react wit a whole page full back
I really dont know what your problem is you why are going on and on and on
This is really weird what you are doing now.

also quote: please read my big letters please, they are made big for YOU.> That is again trying to downtalk me disrespectfull .
also : sorry if anyone feels offended. this feels like discussing with my ex lol.> that is also trying to insult and just being inmature .
Why are you talking like that, I can feel for your exgirlfriend she is better off now for sure.

And I did post it and send it to people to translate for them selfs.
thats called helping out right we help eachother out here or point to the info one needs. thats all.

 

[Memento Mori]

also quote: please read my big letters please, they are made big for YOU.> That is again trying to downtalk me disrespectfull .

okay, you are right. wly complaining with someone who WANTS to believe that he is fully right and the mistakes are elsewhere. instead of answering the points you move on to pluck other sentences. then you quote PART OF THEM to insult me instead of quoting the full thing and thinking about it:

"
also : sorry if anyone feels offended. this feels like discussing with my ex lol.> that is also trying to insult and just being inmature .
Why are you talking like that, I can feel for your exgirlfriend she is better off now for sure. "



and for that last sentence, i wish you .... well, i'm not gonna say here what i wish for you ;) because i'm not like you. to me THIS feels way more immature :) but why the fuck am i trying to tell prof. dr. ddutch what's right and what's wong, he already knows. just fuck yourself for gods sake. for sure she's better off now without me, don't need a reminder of some random internet brat. i hope you are in a similar destroying situation and i hope someone will hit you in your worst phase with a similar retarded sentence on a suicide-board. :) oh no, now i did it, i wanted to shut up to not be like you. :( well i give a fuck. i was thinking about leaving this place anyways because many people i made friends with did ctb. why not give the last ones my email and fuck off from here. there are way worse people on here than you, like the douchebag with god complex feeling good that he advised over thousand people on the internet randomly how to kill themselves properly and not just that. (and suuure he checked on every single person that its the right decision, totally sure lol...) but still you are dumb as fuck, as i can see what your answers are always based off. sad. i wanna see you idiots in real life and make a real conversation but you would be completely different anyways.

no need to explain to you why the letters are big because people only use it in the work place, or they are using it different here like you said. OR MAYBE you just dont get why i write them big? i have a fucking purpose and that is that you don't fucking understand me so i write them fucking BIG to move your attention from your ego to my WORDS. have a nice day professor and fuck off

 

[ddutch]

okay, you are right. wly complaining with someone who WANTS to believe that he is fully right and the mistakes are elsewhere. instead of answering the points you move on to pluck other sentences. then you quote PART OF THEM to insult me instead of quoting the full thing and thinking about it:

"
also : sorry if anyone feels offended. this feels like discussing with my ex lol.> that is also trying to insult and just being inmature .
Why are you talking like that, I can feel for your exgirlfriend she is better off now for sure. "



and for that last sentence, i wish you .... well, i'm not gonna say here what i wish for you ;) because i'm not like you. to me THIS feels way more immature :) but why the fuck am i trying to tell prof. dr. ddutch what's right and what's wong, he already knows. just fuck yourself for gods sake. for sure she's better off now without me, don't need a reminder of some random internet brat. i hope you are in a similar destroying situation and i hope someone will hit you in your worst phase with a similar retarded sentence on a suicide-board. :) oh no, now i did it, i wanted to shut up to not be like you. :( well i give a fuck. i was thinking about leaving this place anyways because many people i made friends with did ctb. why not give the last ones my email and fuck off from here. there are way worse people on here than you, like the douchebag with god complex feeling good that he advised over thousand people on the internet randomly how to kill themselves properly and not just that. (and suuure he checked on every single person that its the right decision, totally sure lol...) but still you are dumb as fuck, as i can see what your answers are always based off. sad. i wanna see you idiots in real life and make a real conversation but you would be completely different anyways.

no need to explain to you why the letters are big because people only use it in the work place, or they are using it different here like you said. OR MAYBE you just dont get why i write them big? i have a fucking purpose and that is that you don't fucking understand me so i write them fucking BIG to move your attention from your ego to my WORDS. have a nice day professor and fuck off

You are probably just high.
But if you are like this always than you are rude without even knowing it.
Wish you all the best

 

[Ssrejisser]

Long story ok lol
I dint know who marked me. As wise or what ever.

On the capital letters here it means you are pissed off hahahaha different thing
only when it is official we mark it fat

But yeah logical thinking exactly.
I repeated the digestion over an over again here, can not always keep repeating myself.
But really overall here where i am from with the organisation they all state its over fast.
Grandama of a friend of mine who had euthanisia few weeks ago was death in 10 minutes.
but some take just a hour and others longer when they take heavy medication.
I even posten a protocol document here a few times that i have of the organisation to help people calm down or get it clear that goes more in the use of medications and side effects on N.
But yes also taking in consideration people do suffer of paranoide trades here alot, its sade but Sanctioned is not sanctioned for no reason right ?, everybody got there problem psychological or otherwise.

but we got that clear now :)



this one . no subs for eng but tought send it anyway

other one also about a girl who had euthanisia



this is the one of louis theroux

Thanks for these. And the ads on the daily motion are terrible lol

 

[color_me_gone]

Can't we all just get along?
This is a suicide forum, we all feel like shit.
And none of us are experts.

 

[ddutch]

Thanks for these. And the ads on the daily motion are terrible lol

Welcome
Have a good night