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IrRegularjoe

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I have been wondering if Nembutal is overrated to anyone. I think to myself that perhaps I wanted a doctor assisted suicide in reality. Reading and agonizing over details. The peace of wanting to die and not be found or panic. Worrying about meto and fasting. My final thoughts are perhaps Nembutal is just replacing a fantasy of a doctors assisted death. I just want to be dead.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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Apr 16, 2020
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What about it is overrated? The fact it is the most painless, most peaceful death? The fact that it puts you to sleep in under 3 minutes without discomfort?
 
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esse_est_percipi

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Jul 14, 2020
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I don't think it's overrated, but it is very unrealistic for most people, so it's not even worth thinking about.

Let's face it, everyone wants to ctb peacefully and without panic or pain, but given the absolutely ridiculous and cruel anti-euthanasia laws/anti-suicide prejudice in most countries, people have to make do with the limited range of options open to them.
 
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Commitmentphile101

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Apr 16, 2020
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I don't think it's overrated, but it is very unrealistic for most people, so it's not even worth thinking about.

Let's face it, everyone wants to ctb peacefully and without panic or pain, but given the absolutely ridiculous and cruel anti-euthanasia laws/anti-suicide prejudice in most countries, people have to make do with the limited range of options open to them.

How is it unrealistic? Is 750 USD too much for the average person? We already have a certified reliable source N from C which has been getting the job done for many...
 
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Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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You still have to do a fasting and meto regimen with assisted suicide, and they use nembutal. The only difference is that they administer the N and they take care of your body.
 
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May 12, 2020
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I'm not sure what you mean by "doctor assisted" but the primary assisted suicide service, dignitas, use nembutal. I realize most people want to just snap their finger and be dead without any commitment, unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
 
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esse_est_percipi

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Jul 14, 2020
1,747
How is it unrealistic? Is 750 USD too much for the average person? We already have a certified reliable source N from C which has been getting the job done for many...
I'm willing to bet that at least 90% of suicides are not due to N.
It is unrealistic financially (yes 750 USD is beyond the means of many) and because it is heavily regulated/illegal/in short supply.

I don't know about your source, you may be right, but I am assuming it is on darkweb, which most people do not access/use.
 
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rt1989526

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Aug 2, 2020
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Pretty sure everyone here would prefer a doctor assisted suicide, by far the most peaceful. Its simply not an option.
 
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PlaceCalledHome

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Apr 20, 2020
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How is it unrealistic? Is 750 USD too much for the average person? We already have a certified reliable source N from C which has been getting the job done for many...

Can I hear more about this certified reliable source? Planning to purchase myself soon and $750 is not beyond my means.
 
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BPD Barbie

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Dec 1, 2019
2,359
It's the gold standard in ctb. But incredibly hard to get without being scammed in the process. If you can get it, can afford it then I don't think it's overrated at all.
 
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Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
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It's the gold standard in ctb. But incredibly hard to get without being scammed in the process. If you can get it, can afford it then I don't think it's overrated at all.

Yup, nothing overrated about N. I am still trying to work out the logistics of acquiring it.
 
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Mud.

Arcanist
Oct 27, 2018
403
Can I hear more about this certified reliable source? Planning to purchase myself soon and $750 is not beyond my means.
Check out the megathread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/megathread-n-from-c-alternative-n-sources.28554/
 
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Aap

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Apr 26, 2020
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I don't think it is hyped in the sense that it can cause a very quick death when administered via IV and usually fast death when taken by mouth, and in both cases it causes unconsciousness very quickly. It is an old drug and has historically been used for this purpose. That said, there are many drugs that can accomplish the same thing via one or both methods of administration, often in much lower doses. Unfortunately, they are either as difficult to acquire for most, limited in route of administration, or both.

With the exception of high dose barbiturates by IV, you would be extremely pressed to find anything that causes incapacitation and death as peacefully and rapidly as inert gas.
 
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he/him
Jul 15, 2020
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How is it unrealistic? Is 750 USD too much for the average person? We already have a certified reliable source N from C which has been getting the job done for many...
Yes it's is too much, not everyone has that kind of money
 
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hellonearth1

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Nov 28, 2020
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How is it unrealistic? Is 750 USD too much for the average person? We already have a certified reliable source N from C which has been getting the job done for many...
Where can I find this reliable source please?? Please let me know n
 
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DetachedDreamer97

Enlightened
Mar 17, 2018
1,402
I kinda do think N is overrated. While it's considered the gold standard of suicide methods, there are complications betweenthe cost and legal issues that hinder accessibility. Not to mention, considering there's alternatives to nembutal, it kinda makes it sorta obsolete. One of them SN, or famously called "bootleg N". Though that also has its own issues in terms of technicality that makes it rather complicated.
 
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Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,203
I kinda do think N is overrated. While it's considered the gold standard of suicide methods, there are complications betweenthe cost and legal issues that hinder accessibility. Not to mention, considering there's alternatives to nembutal, it kinda makes it sorta obsolete. One of them SN, or famously called "bootleg N". Though that also has its own issues in terms of technicality that makes it rather complicated.
Cost and legal issues, aside, N is still the gold standard ways of peacefully dying. I would also like to add that SN is impossible to get in some countries too because of the amount of people using it as a suicide agent. If a person is willing to take the risks and can afford N then it may be worth the gamble. If you can acquire SN because of cost and availability then it is a decent sub.
 
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DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
1,402
Cost and legal issues, aside, N is still the gold standard ways of peacefully dying. I would also like to add that SN is impossible to get in some countries too because of the amount of people using it as a suicide agent. If a person is willing to take the risks and can afford N then it may be worth the gamble. If you can acquire SN because of cost and availability then it is a decent sub.
I will have to agree with you. Neither are bad methods. And N is such a good method that I wanted to seek something that rivals it in a lot of ways, though… that could be my bias towards botanicals.

I also do have SN, but to me… I still view that as a stepping stone.

Getting N however for me, even though I can afford it would also be anticlimactic considering all the money and effort I'm putting in to making my method work. And the bitter taste won't be much of a factor. Plus, if one were to do this right in their first go, it'd likely be something that can be done at a small fraction of the price of N…
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
3,203
I will have to agree with you. Neither are bad methods. And N is such a good method that I wanted to seek something that rivals it in a lot of ways, though… that could be my bias towards botanicals.

I also do have SN, but to me… I still view that as a stepping stone.

Getting N however for me, even though I can afford it would also be anticlimactic considering all the money and effort I'm putting in to making my method work. And the bitter taste won't be much of a factor. Plus, if one were to do this right in their first go, it'd likely be something that can be done at a small fraction of the price of N…
True but you can't really put a cost on a peaceful death and you can't take anything with you when you die. I (like you did) put a lot of time and effort acquiring SN with all the pills to go along with it but when the N chance came up I just went for it. Obviously it was a big risk, but it paid off. Life is a gamble anyway.
 
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DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
1,402
True but you can't really put a cost on a peaceful death and you can't take anything with you when you die. I (like you did) put a lot of time and effort acquiring SN with all the pills to go along with it but when the N chance came up I just went for it. Obviously it was a big risk, but it paid off. Life is a gamble anyway.
Haha, you also have a good point… Though I'm balls too deep in the extraction project. I've likely spent more than what I would've if I were to go and buy N. Not all at once, but over time. But I think this method is what is meant for me.

I'd say if it weren't for my determination and all that I would've tried ordering N long ago.

I'm happy you got your perfect ticket though!
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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Haha, you also have a good point… Though I'm balls too deep in the extraction project. I've likely spent more than what I would've if I were to go and buy N. Not all at once, but over time. But I think this method is what is meant for me.

I'd say if it weren't for my determination and all that I would've tried ordering N long ago.

I'm happy you got your perfect ticket though!
Yes, it did feel like the golden ticket when I got it. As time has moved on I feel a mixture of happy and sad. Happy to have a peaceful method and sad that I will leave the only world I have ever known. Still, I am very grateful to have it and I do feel blessed to be able to die in my sleep. I have always wanted that because I love sleep more than anything. I just hope I can get over the god awful bitter taste, but fuck the taste. It won't last long and I will be dead. Worth it, I say. You want me to tell you something funny, I got a hair transplant in London last summer (receding hairline I had since I was 20) and it is slowly but gradually growing back. By the time it starts to look decent, I will be about to go night night. lol. Is that irony? I don't know. A bit like Bruce Jenner getting a sex change in her later years haha, fucking useless.

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DetachedDreamer97

Enlightened
Mar 17, 2018
1,402
Yes, it did feel like the golden ticket when I got it. As time has moved on I feel a mixture of happy and sad. Happy to have a peaceful method and sad that I will leave the only world I have ever known. Still, I am very grateful to have it and I do feel blessed to be able to die in my sleep. I have always wanted that because I love sleep more than anything. I just hope I can get over the god awful bitter taste, but fuck the taste. It won't last long and I will be dead. Worth it, I say. You want me to tell you something funny, I got a hair transplant in London last summer (receding hairline I had since I was 20) and it is slowly but gradually growing back. By the time it starts to look decent, I will be about to go night night. lol. Is that irony? I don't know.
Very ironic… it's like… "So now, you decide to improve by the time I'm just about packed up and ready to leave???" 😂

When you have that N, even though you've said you just have to get over the barrier of bitter tastes and all that, did a thought pass your mind in giving things another go, being that you feel empowered, or is this it?
 
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Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,203
Very ironic… it's like… "So now, you decide to improve by the time I'm just about packed up and ready to leave???" 😂

When you have that N, even though you've said you just have to get over the barrier of bitter tastes and all that, did a thought pass your mind in giving things another go, being that you feel empowered, or is this it?
Good question, Dreamer. Yeah, I have thought about turning things around in the moment and making an effort to improve stuff. But, I know that is just that part of my brain telling me things will improve. It's just a temporary buzz of mania that doesn't last long. It's just too late for all that now. However, I will still keep doing my rituals and things till that day comes. I saw an old lady in a nursing home. Well she was offered Nembutal (it was pretty controversial because she wasn't physically sick). She was just tired of life and missed her dead daughter. She was given the green light to die but she kept doing her exercises everyday and talking to her friends, in the home, and just living each day as she had done previously. So, that is what I do now as well. I live in the now, have no future, stick to some routines, but yeah the hair transplant thing was pretty wild and I will never get to fully enjoy having a fuller head of hair. But like that song suggests que será, será, whatever will be, will be haha
 
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DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
1,402
Good question, Dreamer. Yeah, I have thought about turning things around in the moment and making an effort to improve stuff. But, I know that is just that part of my brain telling me things will improve. It's just a temporary buzz of mania that doesn't last long. It's just too late for all that now. However, I will still keep doing my rituals and things till that day comes. I saw an old lady in a nursing home. Well she was offered Nembutal (it was pretty controversial because she wasn't physically sick). She was just tired of life and missed her dead daughter. She was given the green light to die but she kept doing her exercises everyday and talking to her friends, in the home, and just living each day as she had done previously. So, that is what I do now as well. I live in the now, have no future, stick to some routines, but yeah the hair transplant thing was pretty wild and I will never get to fully enjoy having a fuller head of hair. But like that song suggests que será, será, whatever will be, will be haha
I understand that well… I'm not sure how things will go once I manage to finish my tincture/extraction but for the time being, I'll just keep doing what I've been doing while I'm still alive. After all, this is probably a wise move. Guess we should just die on a high note. 😌
 
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lanahelp

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Jan 19, 2022
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How is it unrealistic? Is 750 USD too much for the average person? We already have a certified reliable source N from C which has been getting the job done for many...
Source C? I ordered my N but Bitcoin payment won't go through for 2 more weeks. Are there any legit sources which don't require crypto? I'm desperate.
 
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watchingthewheels

Enlightened
Jan 23, 2021
1,415
Overrated? Fine. Tell me a more peaceful and painless alternative. Until then...
 
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Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,203
I understand that well… I'm not sure how things will go once I manage to finish my tincture/extraction but for the time being, I'll just keep doing what I've been doing while I'm still alive. After all, this is probably a wise move. Guess we should just die on a high note. 😌

Source C? I ordered my N but Bitcoin payment won't go through for 2 more weeks. Are there any legit sources which don't require crypto? I'm desperate.
nope. D is the only person on the internet (that is known) who is providing it.
 
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DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
1,402
Overrated? Fine. Tell me a more peaceful and painless alternative. Until then...
Taxine. But the downside is, you may require a basic understanding of chemistry to making it work effectively.

Yew don't just eat the leaves/seeds and call it a day. As not only would it not be guaranteed as peaceful, but it might not be quick as the time it takes to digest the material and absorb the alkaloids may vary greatly, which potentially might take several hours to a day before you die.

A basic tincture would probably be of a similar grade as SN.

The perfected version which there are NO oils, tannin, formic acid, ephedrine, as well as other impurities and I'd argue you'd have a cheap botanical rival of N.

That said, if one doesn't know about chemistry and doesn't want to go through a series of trials and error, or put a bit of time and effort, or live in a home which you have limited privacy, then you're better off just sticking to buying N.
 
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Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
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Taxine. But the downside is, you may require a basic understanding of chemistry to making it work effectively.

Yew don't just eat the leaves/seeds and call it a day. As not only would it not be guaranteed as peaceful, but it might not be quick as the time it takes to digest the material and absorb the alkaloids may vary greatly, which potentially might take several hours to a day before you die.

A basic tincture would probably be of a similar grade as SN.

The perfected version which there are NO oils, tannin, formic acid, ephedrine, as well as other impurities and I'd argue you'd have a cheap botanical rival of N.

That said, if one doesn't know about chemistry and doesn't want to go through a series of trials and error, or put a bit of time and effort, or live in a home which you have limited privacy, then you're better off just sticking to buying N.
So I take it you have been working on this tincture of Taxine for a long time then? Wow! I hope you know what you are doing.
 

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