Discussion Need an opinion on my method

[Sael]

So I'm going to ctb soon, maybe Wednesday/Thursday but I need opinions suggestions as i do not want to fail. This is my first time trying and my only chance at it.

I have :
10g of Phenobarbital (not N)
10g of diphenhydramine
400mg of Valium

I will be taking alcohol (Jack Daniels) after taking my dose

What else do i need so it wont fail?

Also looking for people to talk to in these last days.

 

[Time]

Hey, SaelVollmond. I don't have an answer for your question as I haven't really researched phenobarbital but I support whatever you want to do (live or die). ✌

 

[Sael]

Hey, SaelVollmond. I don't have an answer for your question as I haven't really researched phenobarbital but I support whatever you want to do (live or die). ✌❤

Hi! Thnx for your reply and your support.


Forgot to mention that i also have my Meto

 

[Qbert]

So I'm going to ctb soon, maybe Wednesday/Thursday but I need opinions suggestions as i do not want to fail. This is my first time trying and my only chance at it.

I have :
10g of Phenobarbital (not N)
10g of diphenhydramine
400mg of Valium

I will be taking alcohol (Jack Daniels) after taking my dose

What else do i need so it wont fail?

Also looking for people to talk to in these last days.

This combo will likely not work, and all that diphenhydramine will make you hallucinate badly. The valium will put you to sleep and you'll wake up in a hospital.

Sorry, but overdoses rarely work.

 

[Sael]

This combo will likely not work, and all that diphenhydramine will make you hallucinate badly. The valium will put you to sleep and you'll wake up in a hospital.

What do you suggest?

So will I have hallucinations before the valium kicks in?

Also what do you think about using phenobarb, should i increase the dose?

 

[Qbert]

You dont want to take the diphenhydramine under any circumstances. Valium is not lethal. Google phenobarbital overdoses and decide for yourself...

Phenobarbital overdose: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Phenobarbital is a medicine used to treat epilepsy (seizures), anxiety, and insomnia. It is in a class of medicines called barbiturates. Phenobarbital overdose occurs when someone takes too much of this

medlineplus.gov

 

[Sael]

You dont want to take the diphenhydramine under any circumstances. Valium is not lethal. Google phenobarbital overdoses and decide for yourself...

MLD for phenobarb is 6g it is a slow acting barbiturate, nevertheless still a barbiturate.

MLD for Diphenhydramine is 8g, cases such as famous athletes have used this to ctb.

I do not expect Valium to kill me, but to put me into a coma state.
I have also removed the option to add a fast acting benzo as it will not give me the time to end my alcohol drink in peace lol

I have been doing research for about 3 months now.

 

[Qbert]

Who has used diphenhydramine to ctb? Curious....

 

[Sael]

Who has used diphenhydramine to ctb? Curious....

Antonio Pettigrew

Antonio Pettigrew

Pettigrew autopsy reveals suicide

Former Olympic sprinter overdosed on prescription drugs

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Qbert]

I'm still sceptical but don't let me stop you...
With the JD you may end up choking on vomit, so beware.
Well maybe more lethal than I thought.

Diphenhydramine - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.google.com

 

[Sael]

I'm still sceptical but don't let me stop you...
With the JD you may end up choking on vomit, so beware.
Well maybe more lethal than I thought.

Diphenhydramine - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.google.com

Reading the reddit comments I'll probably have to add the fast acting benzos, which could take care of the secondary effects of the diphen. Thnx :)

 

[Qbert]

Ok, if you need someone to talk to I'm here.

 

[chrijo]

Phenobarbital is tricky. Combine this with your diazepam and the exit-bag method and use diphenhydramine only as antiemetic in normal dosage.

That's just my opinion..

 

[Sweet emotion]

So I'm going to ctb soon, maybe Wednesday/Thursday but I need opinions suggestions as i do not want to fail. This is my first time trying and my only chance at it.

I have :
10g of Phenobarbital (not N)
10g of diphenhydramine
400mg of Valium

I will be taking alcohol (Jack Daniels) after taking my dose

What else do i need so it wont fail?

Also looking for people to talk to in these last days.

I don't know what the second drug you listed is. I plan on overdosing as well but I have a huge quantity of pain meds, benzos, muscle relaxers....I think k you really need some pain medication. I have the highest ranking pain condition in medical history so I've been saving my pain meds up when I should have been taking them so I'd have enough to die. And with the amount I have theres no way anyone could live. I talked to a doctor who helps people kill themselves with pills. My friend who has the same disease as I do talked with him and told me about him. Her suicide attempt was a success and I'm glad she's out of this viscious pain. But she had two things which I don't. Fentanyl patches which she saved up and seconal which is a very powerful sedative.

When you want to die by overdosing on pills you have to plan the date. The reason being is that you need to take anti nausea medication every 6-8 hours for two days straight and not eat anything or drink much. Then the third day is the day when you kill yourself. You need to make sure you're going to have enough time to be alone so that no one can find you. She was alone all night until her mother tried to wake her up in the morning. I'm not owrried about waking up in a hospital because I'll have all that time as well. But you really need to have the right pills and the right amount to successfully pull this off.

As for what can happen to you when you take the drugs you have, I don't think anyone on this page can really tell you that. No one knows for sure so all you're getting are opinions that are probably all wrong. Everyone is different and everyones makeup is different.

 

[Sael]

I don't know what the second drug you listed is. I plan on overdosing as well but I have a huge quantity of pain meds, benzos, muscle relaxers....I think k you really need some pain medication. I have the highest ranking pain condition in medical history so I've been saving my pain meds up when I should have been taking them so I'd have enough to die. And with the amount I have theres no way anyone could live. I talked to a doctor who helps people kill themselves with pills. My friend who has the same disease as I do talked with him and told me about him. Her suicide attempt was a success and I'm glad she's out of this viscious pain. But she had two things which I don't. Fentanyl patches which she saved up and seconal which is a very powerful sedative.

When you want to die by overdosing on pills you have to plan the date. The reason being is that you need to take anti nausea medication every 6-8 hours for two days straight and not eat anything or drink much. Then the third day is the day when you kill yourself. You need to make sure you're going to have enough time to be alone so that no one can find you. She was alone all night until her mother tried to wake her up in the morning. I'm not owrried about waking up in a hospital because I'll have all that time as well. But you really need to have the right pills and the right amount to successfully pull this off.

As for what can happen to you when you take the drugs you have, I don't think anyone on this page can really tell you that. No one knows for sure so all you're getting are opinions that are probably all wrong. Everyone is different and everyones makeup is different.

I can't imagine how strong your pain must be. I have stomach cancer and the pain is just unbearable.
I hope that you soon find the peace that you deserve.

So basically this is my plan, I have been planning this for 3 months now, I had to change de date because of upcoming family birthdays and backing out the first time I attempted to ctb.

Wed 20
12am - Meto
8am - Meto
4pm - Meto

Thursday:
12am - Meto
8am - Meto
4pm - Meto

8pm - 30mg Last Meto (as suggested in other pages, could lower this)
8:30pm - 400mg Diazepam
8:45pm - 10g Phenobarb, 10g Dyphen

Right after this i will enjoy my last drink of alcohol, been clean for 2 years now.

Suicide/Toxification - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

en.wikibooks.org

This page suggests 20g of phenob and 20g of dyphen, although i think that would just be overkill not sure

 

[Sweet emotion]

I can't imagine how strong your pain must be. I have stomach cancer and the pain is just unbearable.
I hope that you soon find the peace that you deserve.

So basically this is my plan, I have been planning this for 3 months now, I had to change de date because of upcoming family birthdays and backing out the first time I attempted to ctb.

Wed 20
12am - Meto
8am - Meto
4pm - Meto

Thursday:
12am - Meto
8am - Meto
4pm - Meto

8pm - 30mg Last Meto (as suggested in other pages, could lower this)
8:30pm - 400mg Diazepam
8:45pm - 10g Phenobarb, 10g Dyphen

Right after this i will enjoy my last drink of alcohol, been clean for 2 years now.

Suicide/Toxification - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

en.wikibooks.org

This page suggests 20g of phenob and 20g of dyphen, although i think that would just be overkill not sure

What is dyphen? I honestly dont know if this can kill you or not. I'm just familiar with the meds that I have. I'm very sorry you have cancer. You must be very scared. So there is no hope for you?

Oh and with the pills. You have to grind them up, out them in pudding or yogurt and eat them. I'm surprised you're not on pain meds with your stomach cancer. Or is dyphen a pain med?

 

[Dubs]

Diphenhydramine is an absolutely terrible idea. Technically it could work but even if it did it would be awful. There is a reason you can buy it otc, it's basically a no go for suicide.

 

[Sael]

What is dyphen? I honestly dont know if this can kill you or not. I'm just familiar with the meds that I have. I'm very sorry you have cancer. You must be very scared. So there is no hope for you?

Oh and with the pills. You have to grind them up, out them in pudding or yogurt and eat them. I'm surprised you're not on pain meds with your stomach cancer. Or is dyphen a pain med?

Dyphen (Benadryl) some people use them as sleeping pills, could also be used for allergies pretty easy to get.

I was on Pain meds, however its tearing my family's economy and I am no longer contributing to the family in any positive way. Sad thing is that most of my family would not be okay with my doing this and thus having to do this alone.
I've grind up all the pills into powder, basically im just waiting now. I'm spending the last days at my mom's home with my little brother just playing video games.

Diphenhydramine is an absolutely terrible idea. Technically it could work but even if it did it would be awful. There is a reason you can buy it otc, it's basically a no go for suicide.

You're talking about the hallucinations, is this why it's a terrible idea?
The benzos should take care of that.
BTW Meto is an over the counter medication where I live, so I don't think that OTC means it's not a good idea

 

[Dubs]

If you can confirm the benzodiazepines can make you sleep through it. If you have Meto I'd much rather do sn and Meto.

 

[Sweet emotion]

Dyphen (Benadryl) some people use them as sleeping pills, could also be used for allergies pretty easy to get.

I was on Pain meds, however its tearing my family's economy and I am no longer contributing to the family in any positive way. Sad thing is that most of my family would not be okay with my doing this and thus having to do this alone.
I've grind up all the pills into powder, basically im just waiting now. I'm spending the last days at my mom's home with my little brother just playing video games.


You're talking about the hallucinations, is this why it's a terrible idea?
The benzos should take care of that.
BTW Meto is an over the counter medication where I live, so I don't think that OTC means it's not a good idea

Oh Benadryl. Why don't people just say the real names? Haha...sweetie I don't think that is going to work. I just took some to go to sleep. They aren't powerful enough to kill you.

 

[SoupSnakes]

Unfortunately, I'm with everyone else on this. Not to make you change your mind, I wish you luck whatever you choose to do but I really don't think they'll help you CTB. I just think you're going to have a really gnarly ride.

I used to care for kids on Phenobarb as their regular meds and they sometimes had ridiculous whacking doses.. it didn't do a lot except for knock them out.

No matter what any of us say, so long as you have researched it and are happy with what you're doing, then do it.
My PM is always open if you need to talk.

 

[Dee38]

It sounds fairly reliable, as long as you take antiemmetics beforehand and are not found and medically rescued. Diphenhydramine apparently acts like a calcium channel blocker similar to propoxyphene or amitriptyline.

Here is a link to the wiki page (if you haven't already seen it it):

Suicide - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

en.m.wikibooks.org

 

[I screwed up]

Wish I luck in whatever u choose to do brother .. I have not heard abt the method u chosen but all the same wish u all the peace deserve