Method N from N/D testing positive for ketamine. Pph says there's another vet product w KETAMINE in it.

[lmon]

Ok, first of all, this is based on a user on here who tested N from A/D and they both tested positive for ketamine.
I was reading the pph and saw there was a vet product that with ketamine in it (Halatal KT) with no N in it. this product is not sufficient for ctb purposes.

Then there is plain old Halatal that DOES have N in it.
it is unclear to me based on the language used here if the plain old Halatal, which has nembutal in it, also contains ketamine or not.


So my thoughts are... is N from these people really just N? I HOPE SO but I just thought I should bring this to attention. After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect. I will attach the users N tests and the screenshots from the pph.

 

[bad luck]

Ok, first of all, this is based on a user on here who tested N from A/D and they both tested positive for ketamine.
I was reading the pph and saw there was a vet product that with ketamine in it (Halatal KT) with no N in it. this product is not sufficient for ctb purposes.

Then there is plain old Halatal that DOES have N in it.
it is unclear to me based on the language used here if the plain old Halatal, which has nembutal in it, also contains ketamine or not.


So my thoughts are... is N from these people really just N? I HOPE SO but I just thought I should bring this to attention. After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect. I will attach the users N tests and the screenshots from the pph.

Wow, this is worrying. Could you put a link to the thread of the user who wrote his experience?

This happened with A or with D?

A became a scammer

 

[justtiredofit]

Please don't let this be true. I got mine from D and I can't fail again.

 

[Darkover]

so long as it kills me very quickly and peacefully i'm not that bothered what in it

 

[Sunset Limited]

N is sold in MSouth America for a ridiculous few dollars. Why would D send anything else to his customers? If you defraud a few of your customers, you will not be able to sell products again. I don't think D would do that. He sold too many N's. If you've sold hundreds of N's, why send something else to 5-6 people? For someone like D, reliability is very important. I don't think he will change it for the price of a few N bottles.

 

[watchingthewheels]

This all came up because the OP saw something on an older thread about test results, from May '21, that and started fretting about it, resulting in this new thread.
But that person who had the test done was trying to calm people down.

Please stop with the fear-mongering; it's just getting already-desperate people worked up over nothing.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/got-my-n-from-a-and-d-tested.66149/post-1507290

This matter was already addressed. It was a whole thing. Someone even asked on that original thread if the results indicated positive for K, and it was said that was a misinterpretation, that the lines just weren't showing well.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/got-my-n-from-a-and-d-tested.66149/post-1227344

 

[lmon]

Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

"After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect."

Did you not see that?
should I not question the result? if the line was completely solid I wouldn't. But it is barely there. Lines are barely there if even there is a little of something sometimes.
Do Just pretend I didn't see that? Please tell me how I am TRYING to fear monger.
I posted this because I wanted answers. I asked this person multiple times why it tested positive for K and got no response. Can you blame me for being like… hm.. I wonder why it looks like it could have some k own it after learning about this other vet drug that had it. ….
Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

P.s. it's working up "working up already desperate people".. I'm desparate too? That's why I want to be confident in the methods?

This all came up because the OP saw something on an older thread about test results, from May '21, that and started fretting about it, resulting in this new thread.
But that person who had the test done was trying to calm people down.

Please stop with the fear-mongering; it's just getting already-desperate people worked up over nothing.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/got-my-n-from-a-and-d-tested.66149/post-1507290

This matter was already addressed. It was a whole thing. Someone even asked on that original thread if the results indicated positive for K, and it was said that was a misinterpretation, that the lines just weren't showing well.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/got-my-n-from-a-and-d-tested.66149/post-1227344

Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

"After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect."

Did you not see that?
should I not question the result? if the line was completely solid I wouldn't. But it is barely there. Lines are barely there if even there is a little of something sometimes.
Do Just pretend I didn't see that? Please tell me how I am TRYING to fear monger.
I posted this because I wanted answers. I asked this person multiple times why it tested positive for K and got no response. Can you blame me for being like… hm.. I wonder why it looks like it could have some k own it after learning about this other vet drug that had it. ….
Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

P.s. it's working up "working up already desperate people".. I'm desparate too? That's why I want to be confident in the methods?

 

[watchingthewheels]

Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

"After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect."

Did you not see that?
should I not question the result? if the line was completely solid I wouldn't. But it is barely there. Lines are barely there if even there is a little of something sometimes.
Do Just pretend I didn't see that? Please tell me how I am TRYING to fear monger.
I posted this because I wanted answers. I asked this person multiple times why it tested positive for K and got no response. Can you blame me for being like… hm.. I wonder why it looks like it could have some k own it after learning about this other vet drug that had it. ….
Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

P.s. it's working up "working up already desperate people".. I'm desparate too? That's why I want to be confident in the methods?

Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

"After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect."

Did you not see that?
should I not question the result? if the line was completely solid I wouldn't. But it is barely there. Lines are barely there if even there is a little of something sometimes.
Do Just pretend I didn't see that? Please tell me how I am TRYING to fear monger.
I posted this because I wanted answers. I asked this person multiple times why it tested positive for K and got no response. Can you blame me for being like… hm.. I wonder why it looks like it could have some k own it after learning about this other vet drug that had it. ….
Wtf I KNEW I'd get some comment about "fear mongering". Look what I wrote at the end. I wrote

P.s. it's working up "working up already desperate people".. I'm desparate too? That's why I want to be confident in the methods?

You could have read the follow-up on that thread before you started a new one. You may have had good intentions, but it still results in fear-mongering, nonetheless.

 

[lmon]

You could have read the follow-up on that thread before you started a new one. You may have had good intentions, but it still results in fear-mongering, nonetheless.

I have read them, the ones where people said faint lines mean negative? I watched PN do a video on testing drugs and he kept diluting it with more and water and eventually the results became faint.

Yep. Me asking a question and stating the test may even just be inaccurate is fear mongering. Yep. Questions=bad mkay.

N is sold in MSouth America for a ridiculous few dollars. Why would D send anything else to his customers? If you defraud a few of your customers, you will not be able to sell products again. I don't think D would do that. He sold too many N's. If you've sold hundreds of N's, why send something else to 5-6 people? For someone like D, reliability is very important. I don't think he will change it for the price of a few N bottles.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Why would they risk that esp If their system is working so well so far.

 

[GentleJerk]

Title is false and misleading. N from D does not have ketamine in it. Many users have tested it.

 

[Ta555]

Hey OP I would be concerned too if I were you but as the origin thread says, there was a faint line for ketamine meaning it came out as negative. I think this the same for those Covid RAT tests. I just did one the other day and the instructions said that if you get even a faint line it's a positive. I think it's the same for this test but negative. The boldness of the line doesn't matter as long as it's there :)
Tbh I'm getting quite sad and tired of this...every couple of weeks there seems to be some sort of panic over N from D I wish we could all just feel confident in the product.

 

[lmon]

Hey OP I would be concerned too if I were you but as the origin thread says, there was a faint line for ketamine meaning it came out as negative. I think this the same for those Covid RAT tests. I just did one the other day and the instructions said that if you get even a faint line it's a positive. I think it's the same for this test but negative. The boldness of the line doesn't matter as long as it's there :)

Got this from a drug testing site "a faint line is a negative result. It typically means there is SOME drug present in your system, but not enough to trigger a positive result" faint lines can be positive. I can't change my title to write potential positive result, can't delete it now either.

Ok I'll make it in bold

INCASE YOU DIDNT ALREADY KNOW, A FAINT LINE OFTEN IS A NEGATIVE RESULT. HOWEVER IT COULD MEAN TRACE AMOUNTS OF THE CHEMICAL. TITLE SHOUKD SAY POTENTIAL POSITIVE TEST. THIS IS NOT A DEFINITE POSITIVE BY ANY MEANS, NOT SURE IF THE TEST IS EVEN RELIABLE I SAID IN THE POST

 

[archipelago]

Got this from a drug testing site "a faint line is a negative result. It typically means there is SOME drug present in your system, but not enough to trigger a positive result" faint lines can be positive. I can't change my title to write potential positive result, can't delete it now either.

Ok I'll make it in bold

INCASE YOU DIDNT ALREADY KNOW, A FAINT LINE OFTEN IS A NEGATIVE RESULT. HOWEVER IT COULD MEAN TRACE AMOUNTS OF THE CHEMICAL. TITLE SHOUKD SAY POTENTIAL POSITIVE TEST. THIS IS NOT A DEFINITE POSITIVE BY ANY MEANS, NOT SURE IF THE TEST IS EVEN RELIABLE I SAID IN THE POST

I understand the desperation. But even if it did test positive for ketamine, it's still showing a positive test result for the other substance.

 

[watchingthewheels]

There are posts after posts trying to analyize and scrutinize N from every angel, whether out of fear of failure or, perhaps, fear of success (SI kicking in.) Bottom line: N from D is the best bet we have. If one cannot accept that, so be it. But if this is not good enough, then one will have to lower expectations. Know that nothing else will be better, either, as all other methods are nowhere near this in peacefulness and reliability. Good luck finding anything better.

 

[Lost Magic]

Your post is all over the place. D has already had his products tested by people on here and Exit International even posted his email in their handbook. D would not jeopardise his business and reputation by selling Halatal instead. It would be different if he was a scammer and all he had was access to Halatal but this is not the case. Vet N is cheap asf in his country and he is selling each bottle for many more times its cost. It's just good business sense (even it is illegal).

 

[Red Scare]

Your post is all over the place. D has already had his products tested by people on here and Exit International even posted his email in their handbook. D would not jeopardise his business and reputation by selling Halatal instead. It would be different if he was a scammer and all he had was access to Halatal but this is not the case. Vet N is cheap asf in his country and he is selling each bottle for many more times its cost. It's just good business sense (even it is illegal).

I know I probably shouldn't say anything, and that you are most likely correct. Hell, there was someone on here last week that tried some of the stuff D sent them, a recreational dose, and they reported that it knocked them out just fine...

But still, ketamine is also fairly cheap and can be bought otc in the country where D resides. Like you said though, it just wouldn't make sense for D to do this.

 

[Lost Magic]

I know I probably shouldn't say anything, and that you are most likely correct. Hell, there was someone on here last week that tried some of the stuff D sent them, a recreational dose, and they reported that it knocked them out just fine...

But still, ketamine is also fairly cheap and can be bought otc in the country where D resides. Like you said though, it just wouldn't make sense for D to do this.

then he should be in the ketamine business then lol. Btw I want the original poster, lmon, to show us the proof that someone bought N from D and tested it for Ketamine? Because this is not on, otherwise.

 

[Red Scare]

then he should be in the ketamine business then lol.

I wish, lol. It was hard enough to find back when I did it recreationally. I always dreamed of having a contact in South America I could just communicate with via email or mail. I had a friend in Costa Rica for a while who was sending it to me, but he unfortunately decided to steal money from me one time and send nothing so I told him to fuck off.

 

[Lost Magic]

I wish, lol. It was hard enough to find back when I did it recreationally. I always dreamed of having a contact in South America I could just communicate with via email or mail. I had a friend in Costa Rica for a while who was sending it to me, but he unfortunately decided to steal money from me one time and send nothing so I told him to fuck off.

Yeah, Ketamine is actually supposed to help certain people with anxiety and depression. I wouldn't mind doing some myself before I take the stuff that is 'NOT' AND NEVER HAS BEEN TESTED FOR FUCKING KETAMINE. All it does is makes lots of people nervous for no good reason and tries to make D look bad. That last part was @ lmon btw lol. I may never read anymore N threads again after this.

 

[Red Scare]

Yeah, Ketamine is actually supposed to help certain people with anxiety and depression. I wouldn't mind doing some myself before I take the stuff that is 'NOT' AND NEVER HAS BEEN TESTED FOR FUCKING KETAMINE. All it does is makes lots of people nervous for no good reason and tries to make D look bad. That last part was @ lmon btw lol. I may never read anymore N threads again after this.

It worked pretty well as an anti depressant for me in the past, but my problems have progressed beyond its capability to help me in my current position. I wouldn't rule it out for anyone else though, when it did work for me, it worked wonders and was always a good time.

 

[lymestolemylife]

Wow, this is worrying. Could you put a link to the thread of the user who wrote his experience?

This happened with A or with D?

A became a scammer

I have bottles from A and i'm freaking out. Can i get more details on how he became a scammer? I need to know if my bottles are good. I cannot fail I have 10/10 pain and cannot be in an institution for any amount of time.

 

[bad luck]

I have bottles from A and i'm freaking out. Can i get more details on how he became a scammer? I need to know if my bottles are good. I cannot fail I have 10/10 pain and cannot be in an institution for any amount of time.

I would send part of your N to a lab to check if it is correct. There are many. Here in Spain energy control is popular. I don't know prices or anything, maybe other forum members can help you with that. That way you'll be sure of what it is. Luck

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

Ok, first of all, this is based on a user on here who tested N from A/D and they both tested positive for ketamine.
I was reading the pph and saw there was a vet product that with ketamine in it (Halatal KT) with no N in it. this product is not sufficient for ctb purposes.

Then there is plain old Halatal that DOES have N in it.
it is unclear to me based on the language used here if the plain old Halatal, which has nembutal in it, also contains ketamine or not.


So my thoughts are... is N from these people really just N? I HOPE SO but I just thought I should bring this to attention. After all the test could just be inaccurate for both sellers and it could be nothing and the products are both perfect. I will attach the users N tests and the screenshots from the pph.

Aren't ketamine and N similar in chemical composition or something though? In any case, I did some googling and apparently ketamine increases the effects of barbiturates, and N just so happens to be a very powerful barbiturate.
Also from reading some past posts during my time here at Sanctioned, I've only heard recent stories of success I think when people used the N that D provided.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

As long as it kills me quickly and peacefully, I don't really care whats in it.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

As long as it kills me quickly and peacefully, I don't really care whats in it.

Couldn't agree more when it comes to myself either.

 

[downndone2]

I would be fine with a little K added to my N. So long as the quantity of N is sufficient to do the job, no reason to worry imo. It seems Ds reputation speaks for itself and he is reliable

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

To add more to this discussion, the PPH even recommends drinking alcohol after taking N because similar to ketamine, it increases N's effectiveness. In the case of alcohol, it speeds up the process.

 

[Smart No More]

I actually remember that thread the OP's pics are from and there and then the issue was quashed. If OP is really concerned by some urine panel tests that test for barbs and ketamine and test your stuff. You could have saved yourself a lot of teouble by reading on and doing said tests for yourself if you're really worried. Afterall that's what you'll have to do anway because nobody here can tell you categorically what is or isn't in your bottle.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Aren't ketamine and N similar in chemical composition or something though? In any case, I did some googling and apparently ketamine increases the effects of barbiturates, and N just so happens to be a very powerful barbiturate.
Also from reading some past posts during my time here at Sanctioned, I've only heard recent stories of success I think when people used the N that D provided.

Ketamine and N are different drugs. N is a GABA A receptor agonist, a potent and non-selective CNS depressant. I don't know much about ketamine, but it is a dissociative anesthetic labeled as safe. It binds to many receptors, but not GABA. It is very rare to cause respiratory depression. It offers an anesthesia that allows patients to breathe on their own. I don't think ketamine and N are used together in euthanasia. Ketamine is an anesthetic at high doses, so it can be used in combination with a heart-stopping agent such as lidocaine or with neuromuscular blockers that stop breathing. So, ketamine is used only as an anesthetic. There is no reason to use them together because N is already an anesthetic.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

Ketamine and N are different drugs. N is a GABA A receptor agonist, a potent and non-selective CNS depressant. I don't know much about ketamine, but it is a dissociative anesthetic labeled as safe. It binds to many receptors, but not GABA. It is very rare to cause respiratory depression. It offers an anesthesia that allows patients to breathe on their own. I don't think ketamine and N are used together in euthanasia. Ketamine is an anesthetic at high doses, so it can be used in combination with a heart-stopping agent such as lidocaine or with neuromuscular blockers that stop breathing. So, ketamine is used only as an anesthetic. There is no reason to use them together because N is already an anesthetic.

Interesting! Yeah I can only say what I found in the top few results when I googled since I also don't know much about ketamine either. In any case, I'm doubtful if there was some ketamine in D's N that it would significantly interfere with the outcome or make the experience significantly more unpleasant. Maybe it will boost or speed up the effects of N somewhat or maybe it won't but OP's post still doesn't worry me too much because so many people have used D's N and can attest to it's effectivess.