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Smart No More

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I'm sorry for you..
I don't like to see how people are being attacked only because they are questioning things…

I already told that it's not interesting to the community, to have people intimidated every time they speculate anything related to N ….
This will make people who question or bring other facts leave the community and then this will be a Cult.

I'm Sorry about you :(
Thank you for your kind words. Luckily I'm a 'big boy' and have been around the block a few times to have developed enough of a thick skin to handle these situations.

It is always nice to know that you/we/I am not alone in my understanding of these things though as it is never nice being unduly accused of things but I'm sure anyone with a mind of their own can see things as they are. There will always be those that can't but that's just life right? Not to mention, we're on a a suicide board so at this point my priorities and motivations are all entirely different and way less sensitive than they were at a time when life was more 'livable'. My ego is none existent and in a lot of ways thata pretty freeing. So again, thanks for the kind words and respect foe sticking up for members and standing your ground. I have read your posts doing so in other threads. Just be careful not to put a target on your back back. Some people will see fault where ever they look for it because it suits them and their agenda.
 
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With regards to getting high. I don't want that either. Though I can't deny that I might enjoy the brief relief it may potentially bring from my symptoms. As I referred to in my previous post. But more importantly I guess I would just feel personally reassured in my understanding of the way it feels if I was able to experience a one off recreational dose or hear what somebody else made of it. It might help with overcoming SI when the time comes. We all have our different ways of handling things and I thought it went without saying that there is no judgement here.
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I was curious too in past but can't find any inactive ingredients.

Expect dizziness. Possibly hot. Maybe feeling of being very drunk.

I have found the ignore button to be useful on this forum. Just click on the name and then click ignore.

Hope this helps and I'm sorry about your health problem.
 
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I was curious too in past but can't find any inactive ingredients.

Expect dizziness. Possibly hot. Maybe feeling of being very drunk.

I have found the ignore button to be useful on this forum. Just click on the name and then click ignore.

Hope this helps and I'm sorry about your health problem.
Thank you for that! :)
 
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I'm sorry for you..
I don't like to see how people are being attacked only because they are questioning things…

I already told that it's not interesting to the community, to have people intimidated every time they speculate anything related to N ….
This will make people who question or bring other facts leave the community and then this will be a Cult.

I'm Sorry about you :(

I'm asking questions just like they are, thats not attacking someone its questioning what they say, just like they are questioning things. if people provide proof of things they say, then there isn't a problem.

don't just expect people to believe things you post if you can't back it up.

feel sorry all you want, i don't care what people think. i feel sorry you couldn't save that 'person', unlucky
 
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Post 108, conclusive evidence has now been shown to a moderator of this site that the N for D is legit, all members feel free to check the information out for yourselves.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-have-ordered-n-from-d.64033/page-4
 
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I'm asking questions just like they are, thats not attacking someone its questioning what they say, just like they are questioning things. if people provide proof of things they say, then there isn't a problem.

don't just expect people to believe things you post if you can't back it up.

feel sorry all you want, i don't care what people think. i feel sorry you couldn't save that 'person', unlucky

So, I read the threads about Manipulation Tactics etc…
(Recommend to everyone as linked below). That said,

Honest people are inquired here all the time To Prove things, and in a Mean way… As if they were infiltrated or whatever!!
(The other day I found myself needing to PROVE that I got my membership denied at Exit, searching payments on my credit card bills)!! it's Beyond the ridiculous to put members under this kind of scrutiny Every Time they question anything…

I will assume that this posture of yours is in order to protect the community. But even so, you may consider the way you put things. Thank you!

(…) 2. "You can't prove that."
The word "prove" suggests that evidence exists to verify the supposition or accusation posited, but the speaker failed to discover the hidden proof. Honest people do not think in terms of proof: They know that no evidence exists because they did not do what the speaker accused. Deceptive people know proof of their deception exists but the speaker has not yet discovered sufficient evidence to support the accusation.(…)

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/manipulation-tactics.31123/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/guide-to-protecting-yourself-on-ss-the-internet-life.65066/
 
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So, I read the threads about Manipulation Tactics etc…
(Recommend to everyone as linked below). That said,

Honest people are inquired here all the time To Prove things, and in a Mean way… As if they were infiltrated or whatever!!
(The other day I found myself needing to PROVE that I got my membership denied at Exit, searching payments on my credit card bills)!! it's Beyond the ridiculous to put members under this kind of scrutiny Every Time they question anything…

I will assume that this posture of yours is in order to protect the community. But even so, you may consider the way you put things. Thank you!

(…) 2. "You can't prove that."
The word "prove" suggests that evidence exists to verify the supposition or accusation posited, but the speaker failed to discover the hidden proof. Honest people do not think in terms of proof: They know that no evidence exists because they did not do what the speaker accused. Deceptive people know proof of their deception exists but the speaker has not yet discovered sufficient evidence to support the accusation.(…)


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/manipulation-tactics.31123/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/guide-to-protecting-yourself-on-ss-the-internet-life.65066/

That person was genuine member who provided positive information, NOT negative , whereas you are not. did you not read my post on the thread with legit proof about the N.

Thankyou for that information, there's alot misinformation being spouted about. Its nice to see we now have EVEN more proof than we had before, and that these attempts at making people question legit sources can now be seen for exactly what they are....lies and people trying to manipulate others

I would now also question the members providing this false information and there real reasons for making such posts, i'm sure members can make there own decisions on that matter. I'd stay clear of them IMO


YOU ARE ONE OF THEM PEOPLE I CLASS AS PART OF THE LAST SENTENCE

you already tried your crap private messaging me, you even referred to me as 'reserved' AKA someone who isn't thick enough to give you information, i did like playing along with you though, just like i still have some of your friends trying NOW. i will give loads of information away about myself personally, make you think i trust you, but none of it will be any use LMFAO. You got played, did you not realise after i didn't respond to your pathetic message about wanting to be friends lol. now trot along a grieve for that loved one or friend you couldn't save because your a waste of time than only gives a fuck once someone is dead
 
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I found powdered N from a couple sources on Dark net markets. Obviously very cautious of it but I am very curious too. Has anyone else come across it there and do you have any good info regarding it?

I would much prefer the powder/smaller drink than the 2 bottles of the stuff for pet euthanasia. Holding those bottles in hand, it seems like a decent amount of liquid to drink and hold down. The powder dissolves in like a quarter of that.
Hi, yeah in have seen it on a few markets one being DF market, but the 5 sellers that claim to have it do not, you can do research on dread about these sellers, can I ask where you have seen it? And also the person here said they found N from D?? I know its difficult but can some one point out D without compromising it please?
 
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Are you going comment how hard it is to obtain in ALL your future posts? you have in your 1st two posts thats all. and seen as you have just joined, have you done any research???

I'll give you a little help ......its in the resources section of the site. its a book called the PPH, by assisted suicide experts and it was posted by a MODERATOR of this site. A far more reliable source of information than some random newbie thats just joined the site, and is already questioning stuff. There is also PROOF the stuff the is legitimate, and this proof has also been seen by a MODERATOR of the site. so if you decide to believe any of the other stuff, then well thats your own issue!!

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

Post 108, conclusive evidence has now been shown to a moderator of this site that the N for D is legit, all members feel free to check the information out for yourselves.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-have-ordered-n-from-d.64033/page-4
 
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So i have tested 1 of the bottles i received within the last few weeks and thought i would post results up, i won't bother testing the other bottle as i know it will be legit. the reason i tested it wasn't because i was worried about what it was, but to provide more valid information, rather than people making false accusations with no evidence .So i tested the N by adding 0.5ml to 50ml of water and the results were positive straight away. I sourced the test from a site that specifically deals with drug testing.

I also decided to taste it, now i know it was a small amount and mixed with water but it didn't taste of anything, maybe a slight taste that made my lips tingle if anything. If it was as bad as some people had posted i would expect even a small amount to taste really bad and it didn't.

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Can I ask your source. I'm wanting to buy some for personal use. I've been told to buy latest version of the peaceful handbook for D email address. Do you have it ??
 
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Johnjohn1

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Has anyone ever lab tested N from A? Thanks
 
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ItsTimeToExit

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Jul 20, 2021
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For those concerned about the bitter taste of N, one way to mitigate it is to simply put a bit of plastic in your mouth and then drink the N. That way most of the liquid will not come into contact with your tongue and will smoothly flow into your stomach and finally release you from this world \o/

You'll have more than enough time to dispose of the plastic if you're worried about being found with plastic in your mouth.

Too many people are preoccupied with finding the most perfect most simple most peaceful way to CTB and the reality of what you're doing to yourself makes that incredibly hard. N is the closest you'll get to all three but you still need to make some sacrifices.

@checkouttime, you're running around making statements about the taste of N but your conclusions are woefully ill-informed. Your methods lack far too many control tests or even basic counter questions. You watch one video, do one test and immediately claim to have conclusive proof?
 
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For those concerned about the bitter taste of N, one way to mitigate it is to simply put a bit of plastic in your mouth and then drink the N. That way most of the liquid will not come into contact with your tongue and will smoothly flow into your stomach and finally release you from this world \o/

You'll have more than enough time to dispose of the plastic if you're worried about being found with plastic in your mouth.

Too many people are preoccupied with finding the most perfect most simple most peaceful way to CTB and the reality of what you're doing to yourself makes that incredibly hard. N is the closest you'll get to all three but you still need to make some sacrifices.

@checkouttime, you're running around making statements about the taste of N but your conclusions are woefully ill-informed. Your methods lack far too many control tests or even basic counter questions. You watch one video, do one test and immediately claim to have conclusive proof?
That's a good idea, but how would one avoid swallowing the plastic & making sure that it stays affixed to your tongue? My taste-buds reach deep into the back of my mouth. What type of plastic would you recommend as well?
 
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That's a good idea, but how would one avoid swallowing the plastic & making sure that it stays affixed to your tongue? My taste-buds reach deep into the back of my mouth. What type of plastic would you recommend as well?
Rehearse this idea. You'll quickly realize how irrelevant it is. I did and ditched the proposal
 
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Smart No More

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I haven't rehearsed it so can't say anything for certain but the way I imagined it working best would be to suck a wall of plastic bag into my mouth with a small hole to fit a straw. The more I think about it though the more flaws I see in it. I think the use of a straw is useful in keeping liquid mostly localised and have minimal contact with tastebuds. Truth is we're going to taste it either way. Minimising it and more importantly making sure it stays down are my main priorities.
 
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A straw doesn't go enough on the back on the mouth near the throat (and again it's not pleasant and may induce a gag reflex too) and plenty of liquid still spills on your tongue and around. Tried it and I don't see how it can work any better. Anyway, N must be drank very fast, not sipped, in order to not fall asleep before you finished.

About the plastic idea, similarly it's difficult to nail down. It won't be hermetic with plenty of liquid leaks around. it's hard to maintain properly and thus creates discomfort to swallow. In my view, it was really worse than without

Has anyone tried miracle berries ?
 
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Smart No More

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It's been mentioned but although they didn't try it with N they did say that they didn't think it would be enough.

There is another option. Lidocaine. There is a spray they use in gastroenterology to numb your throat etc when putting a camera in. You can get the benzocaine version from ebay etc but the lidocaine is better. It completely numbs. Lidocaine powder can be bought on dark net markets and you can dissolve it in water to make a spray of your own but that's a lot of effort to go to and added legal risk although I doubt anyone cares too much about somebody buying a small amount of numbing agent. It tastes pretty bad itself but only for a moment and then you're numb. It doesn't last very long but easily long enough to drink a drink. I think it is used to cut cocaine hense being sold on dark net markets. There are probably clearnet markets selling it too. I haven't checked. Obviously there's the issue of knowing whether you're getting what you pay foe but it is cheap IIRC.
 
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watchingthewheels

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Its in the march 2021 pph, in the resources section


thats true, it is also suggested using a straw otherwise


I would estimate the cost of 3 bottles which would be 19.5g at about $1400 as 2 bottles is $1000. thats rather alot of N though!!!!
I thought the PPH advised NOT to use a straw, and said to drink in big gulps, instead, because using the straw takes too long.
Is that accurate?

[Edit: I was just looking through it again, and now, I can't find a mention of not using straws, just to drink it in a few swallows. I may have misremembered. ]

So, then, now I'm wondering if it's ok to use a straw? I'd think it would be possible to drink it fast enough that way...

(eh, nevermind...it might mitigate SOME of the taste, but you're still gonna get some...I was thinking of how I use a straw when I'm drinking lemonade for kidney stones, to avoid acid on teeth, and not to mitigate the taste.)
I thought the PPH advised NOT to use a straw, and said to drink in big gulps, instead, because using the straw takes too long.
Is that accurate?

[Edit: I was just looking through it again, and now, I can't find a mention of not using straws, just to drink it in a few swallows. I may have misremembered. ]

So, then, now I'm wondering if it's ok to use a straw? I'd think it would be possible to drink it fast enough that way...

(eh, nevermind...it might mitigate SOME of the taste, but you're still gonna get some...I was thinking of how I use a straw when I'm drinking lemonade for kidney stones, to avoid acid on teeth, and not to mitigate the taste.)
Hmmm...there's always the Homer Simpson method...coat your tongue in candlewax before eating a "Guatemalan Insanity Pepper..."
"Oh, you want some more, do ya? Sure! Heck, it's not my job to talk people out of suicide!" -Chief Wiggum
"More, please..." - Homer


 

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I've seen a couple of vids of people using a straw. They were probably using less liquid though as they were at legal assisted suicide facilities. The straw was used to prove on camera that they were choosing to drink the N and not being forced. The one guy wretched after his first slurp. He had taken anti emetics of course and didn't vomit. He was taking alternating gulps between two glasses of drink. One was the N and the other I think was a fruit juice or something. After the first gulp wretch he appeared a bit more prepared for the subsequent gulps from the N cup and handled them much better. I wish I could provide a link but I forget his name. The details I can remember about him is that he was a british guy and was mostly bed/chair bound and needed help from his wife who cared for him. I expect one of our forum members will remember his name or the correct video link. A search of assisted suicide vids would garner the vid I'm thinking of. It may actually be in the resources section but be wary of clicking on external links. There have been mention of potential malware etc.
I've found a shortened version of the video I was referring to. It's a dailymotion link. I hope it's ok/not against forum rules to link this here.
 
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boc

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Guys, I did a taste test. It's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be here. It definitely sucks. But I think one could keep it down without any antiemetics.
It's like the worst tasting medicine. But the taste is not the end of the world.
 
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Guys, I did a taste test. It's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be here. It definitely sucks. But I think one could keep it down without any antiemetics.
It's like the worst tasting medicine. But the taste is not the end of the world.
That sounds promising! Is there any easily available thing that you would compare it to? A type of alcohol maybe? Did you get any effects from the amount you tried?
 
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It's frustrating because many reports of tastes tests are conflicting. Personally, I dont mind having to drink a nasty taste. Somebody likened it to the taste zopiclone leaves in your mouth which I could totally handle but then others say it's much worse. One member has chosen to save up and pay a massive premium (1500 extra) for dolethal after doing a taste test on their N. (for anybody unaware dolethal is a brand of N that is more concentrated so you would only need to drink a third of the amount of liquid).

Personally I will go with antiemetics even if I think I can manage without. It's just not worth taking risks imho. When I do it I intend to get it right.

All that said though, I am always glad to read positive taste test reports so thanks for sharing that @boc
 
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It's frustrating because many reports of tastes tests are conflicting. Personally, I dont mind having to drink a nasty taste. Somebody likened it to the taste zopiclone leaves in your mouth which I could totally handle but then others say it's much worse. One member has chosen to save up and pay a massive premium (1500 extra) for dolethal after doing a taste test on their N. (for anybody unaware dolethal is a brand of N that is more concentrated so you would only need to drink a third of the amount of liquid).

Personally I will go with antiemetics even if I think I can manage without. It's just not worth taking risks imho. When I do it I intend to get it right.

All that said though, I am always glad to read positive taste test reports so thanks for sharing that @boc

I saw multiple messages saying Dolethal is not being made anymore. Where did your friend get Dolethal from?
 
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I saw multiple messages saying Dolethal is not being made anymore. Where did your friend get Dolethal from?
Yeah that's true it isn't as far as I'm aware. That's why it's going for a premium. Someone who happened to have 2 bottles in storage. It wasn't going cheap though like I say.
 
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Yeah that's true it isn't as far as I'm aware. That's why it's going for a premium. Someone who happened to have 2 bottles in storage. It wasn't going cheap though like I say.

Thank You.
For a moment my hopes were raised :)
 
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boc

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That sounds promising! Is there any easily available thing that you would compare it to? A type of alcohol maybe? Did you get any effects from the amount you tried?
Hmmm taste wise, difficult to describe. It has no immediate taste and then you get hit with a metallic aftertaste, like a bitter medicine. The kind that would make you go "bleh, that was awful" after swallowing.
It honestly just tastes like some weird horrible tasting medicine. Like I could see the doctor giving it out in a small dose for something.

I took less than 1ml. I just wanted to see the taste. So I had no effects. The taste is bad, it's true. But it's not so bad we need a mega thread on here about how to avoid the taste.
I think the recommendation of doing some listerine before taking it and having a strong flavour chaser would be just fine.
 
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Hmmm taste wise, difficult to describe. It has no immediate taste and then you get hit with a metallic aftertaste, like a bitter medicine. The kind that would make you go "bleh, that was awful" after swallowing.
It honestly just tastes like some weird horrible tasting medicine. Like I could see the doctor giving it out in a small dose for something.

I took less than 1ml. I just wanted to see the taste. So I had no effects. The taste is bad, it's true. But it's not so bad we need a mega thread on here about how to avoid the taste.
I think the recommendation of doing some listerine before taking it and having a strong flavour chaser would be just fine.
You'll also be asleep in a few minutes so meh. A small price to pay for that eternal peace.
 
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Hmmm taste wise, difficult to describe. It has no immediate taste and then you get hit with a metallic aftertaste, like a bitter medicine. The kind that would make you go "bleh, that was awful" after swallowing.
It honestly just tastes like some weird horrible tasting medicine. Like I could see the doctor giving it out in a small dose for something.

I took less than 1ml. I just wanted to see the taste. So I had no effects. The taste is bad, it's true. But it's not so bad we need a mega thread on here about how to avoid the taste.
I think the recommendation of doing some listerine before taking it and having a strong flavour chaser would be just fine.

thanks for the description and tips

You'll also be asleep in a few minutes so meh. A small price to pay for that eternal peace.

I don't mind the discomfort of an awful taste, I don't even mind if there's some pain involved. I'm more concerned if it's so bad that I gag or vomit before finishing it all
 
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